Recruiting Roundup Tidbits
Since most of us are "think about anything other than THAT" mode at the moment, a few items from the Sam Webb's WTKA Recruiting Roundup segment this morning:
- Commit watch is NOT related to Zach Harrison or Kalen DeLoach.
- Sam believes that Florida State is trailing both Michigan and Auburn for Kalen DeLoach's services. This isn't necessarily due to Florida State's crap season and more because they let off the gas in their pursuit of DeLoach.
- In-home visits with Kalen DeLoach and Trevor Keegan this week.
- Sam believes that Michigan definitely has some things to answer for related to THAT this past weekend (especially with respect to Zach Harrison) but doesn't believe it's an enormous setback. He does believe that Michigan needs to explain the rationale for certain deployments of talent on Saturday. Not so much that they lost but how they lost.
I get the feeling that the optimism around Zach Harrison is waning some but feelings are good surrounding Keegan and DeLoach.
November 28th, 2018 at 11:17 AM ^
Are we still on commit watch?
This has all been very confusing. No matter how much gymnastics people try to do with our numbers, we can’t realistically expect more than 4 or so spots left unless the staff knows of more decommits coming and there seems to be a whole lot of names out there still. Will be very interesting to see what happens.
November 28th, 2018 at 11:20 AM ^
Rumblings are this (extended) commit watch is the Solomon LB committed to Miami.
November 28th, 2018 at 11:24 AM ^
Seems like it'd be an either/or with DeLoach and Solomon since they're both similar sized LBs. Maybe Solomon is a back up for DeLoach.
November 28th, 2018 at 12:06 PM ^
I could see, say, DeLoach at Mike and Solomon at Viper.
November 28th, 2018 at 2:01 PM ^
Harrison Bailey is announcing tomorrow night as well. Could be him.
November 28th, 2018 at 11:21 AM ^
Commit watch is still on, just not Harrison or DeLoach. I’m thinking Anthony Solomon.
November 28th, 2018 at 1:07 PM ^
Franklin, Harbaugh, and Meyer all visiting ZH this week, urbz being the last one on Sunday. Michigan felt much better about things before last week. It's been said on here before, so I will say it again. ZH is very much a project, nothing like Gary, Peppers, or even AHutch when it comes to playing right away. Karf has a much better shot at seeing the field early IMO.
If Michigan could just grab any 3 guys left they are recruiting I am not sure ZH would be on that list. Keegan and Karf + a wr, or the big boy from Ben Davis would be incredible.
Lastly, I expect Dmac to be the starter next year assuming he bounces back from his injury. Jlew told some people last weekend that he thinks Hill is "for sure" going to the league. I think the staff might take 30 guys this cycle, based on how hard they are still trying to flip guys and attack.
Cheers
PS: Pretty sure MattyD and other were talking about the big boy from Ben Davis or Solomon. The kid from Canton is also someone to keep an eye on
November 28th, 2018 at 1:25 PM ^
"If Michigan could just grab any 3 guys left they are recruiting I am not sure ZH would be on that list."
Thanks as always for the info. To clarify, are you saying if Michigan had a choice of any 3 guys, ZH might not make the cut? Or are you saying ZH isn't one of the top 3 most likely to join the class?
November 28th, 2018 at 2:01 PM ^
To clarify, are you saying if Michigan had a choice of any 3 guys, ZH might not make the cut?
Yes
November 28th, 2018 at 2:50 PM ^
Wow thanks
November 28th, 2018 at 1:27 PM ^
Seeing Hudson and Singleton quit in the middle of the season might be a hint at the possibility of other unexpected departures. (You can throw Wheatley in there too).
November 28th, 2018 at 11:21 AM ^
Lost both the games and probably our best shot at elite recruits. Were already trailing for Crouch and this won't help. Might have flipped Zach Harrison, no real reason for Karlarftis to flip. What a shit show.
November 28th, 2018 at 11:24 AM ^
You’re a shit show, troll.
November 28th, 2018 at 11:29 AM ^
Feel free to point out how Saturday didn't show to recruits that our coaches are behind the times in competing at the elite level in college football?
November 28th, 2018 at 11:40 AM ^
It is 1 fucking game!!! Shall we shut down the football program???
We waxed ped state by 35, hopefully their fucked in the head fanbase didn't lose their collective minds!!! On second thought, they should shut down their football program.
BTW, FUCK ped state and all their delusional joepa loving fans and all the paternos and field goal franklin!!!
November 28th, 2018 at 12:35 PM ^
No, it’s not one game. Michigan played two good teams this season and looked like shit in both so it’s more than one game.
November 28th, 2018 at 12:55 PM ^
We can't play 12 or 13 elite teams in season, so you'll have to accept the 10+ wins we have this season - a few against measurably good teams with players receiving scholarships to play men's tackle football.
I'm gonna neg myself into Bolivia if this shit keeps up.
November 28th, 2018 at 1:32 PM ^
Penn state is 11 in s&p+, 12 in the committee and coaches polls, and 14 in the ap poll.
That's a good team that michigan beat convincingly. Obviously the best game they played all year. If your definition of good teams only includes teams in the top 6 we pretty much only play one good team each year.
Cheers.
November 28th, 2018 at 3:22 PM ^
Still beat PSU, Sparty, and Wisconsin. You can devalue those teams all you want but this season was not a failure and one game does not make a program rise or fall. Get a fucking grip on reality. Yes it sucks, no it is not the end of the world.
November 28th, 2018 at 4:08 PM ^
SkyBlue: "If we beat them, they're not a good team."
You will always be miserable.
November 28th, 2018 at 12:39 PM ^
I'm with EGJ. The greater evil is Ped State and their delusional, jopa loving fans and their board that has the audacity to employ a Paterno.
November 28th, 2018 at 11:45 AM ^
I don't think that losing to OSU has shut Michigan from landing some elite recruits. That is a bit of a stretch.
What it did do, was give pause to recruits like Harrison. Had we won, I think we very well might have 1-2 top recruits already committed by now. I think, as Sam eluded to and the OP, that now Harbaugh and staff have to answer questions and reassure some elite recruits how what happened Saturday won't happen again.
November 28th, 2018 at 12:08 PM ^
I think that Michigan coaches could point to the fact that they landed 5 guys on the All B1G 1st Team and that might be enough to reassure some recruits. They're probably more concerned about their personal/professional growth than they are about one game (even if it was that bad).
Am I the only one that was surprised that Gary made 1st Team All B1G? I think that he missed three games (25% of the season). I'd think that it's hard to be first team with that kind of gap in the resume. Of course, I half expected Nick Bosa to make it and he only played three games. It still baffles me that he beat out Hurst for DLOY last year.
November 28th, 2018 at 12:48 PM ^
OSU lost at Purdue by 29. Michigan lost at OSU by 23. The team played better than OSU all year and laid an egg on Saturday. Shit happens. Michigan out-schemed OSU on both sides of the ball in 2016 and 2017 but didn't have the talent to beat them, especially at QB. The world isn't ending. Michigan's arrow is still pointed up under Harbaugh. Walk away from the ledge and maybe keep your stupider takes to yourself so as to avoid further humiliation.
November 28th, 2018 at 6:57 PM ^
This^.....but Saturday still blew goats
November 28th, 2018 at 1:00 PM ^
We had a sorry ass game on Saturday, but this team inproved and made huge strides from last season. We are ranked #7 in the CFP, and currently are on track to bring in at least a top #10 recruiting class (and potentially one of the best recruiting classes we have had for a while). But the sky is falling. Get over it.
We avenged 3 of 4 humiliating losses this year. Revenge Tour Part 2 continues next year, both dates are in Ann Arbor - 10/26 v Notre Dame and 11/30 v Ohio State.
November 28th, 2018 at 1:12 PM ^
Boldly said.
November 28th, 2018 at 1:54 PM ^
No man has gone there before.
November 28th, 2018 at 3:06 PM ^
Live long and prosper. Na-nu Na-nu!
November 28th, 2018 at 11:25 AM ^
No reason for Karlaftis to flip besides the coach he committed to skipping town. Totally.
November 28th, 2018 at 11:28 AM ^
He's a purdue legacy, the reason to flip because of Brohm leaving town is worries about Purdue keeping its momentum going forward. Well Michigan showed on saturday the grass isn't all that much greener over here.
November 28th, 2018 at 11:30 AM ^
You are a crazy person.
November 28th, 2018 at 11:35 AM ^
Purdue's record is 6-6 this year. Losses to Northwestern, EMU, Mizzou, MSU, Row the Boat Guys, Wiscy.
Michigan's record is 10-2 this year.
November 28th, 2018 at 11:36 AM ^
One team went 10-2 losing to two top 10 teams. The other went 6-6 with the coach possibly leaving for another job. Yup exactly same situations
November 28th, 2018 at 11:52 AM ^
You should spend more time considering what you type, because a lot of it has no factual basis. You are too emotional to be rational sometimes.
November 28th, 2018 at 11:59 AM ^
"Michigan is not in much better shape than Purdue"
Look kids! Here you can see the last few shreds of ak47's credibility melting away like snow in spring.
November 28th, 2018 at 12:36 PM ^
10-2 > 6-6 => GREENER PASTURE
November 28th, 2018 at 12:58 PM ^
ak47:
I assume you must be a 14 year old kid in order to make such an uninformed statement.... Or you are an OSU or MSU troll who needs to get a life... Or you are neither of the above and are actually a grown up Michigan fan. In the unlikely event this is the case you are just a complete idiot.
November 28th, 2018 at 11:39 AM ^
You mean that Karlaftis that is committed to a 6 - 6 Purdue team? Relax Sally.
November 28th, 2018 at 11:46 AM ^
"No real reason for Karlaftis to flip"...except the fact that his coach is leaving and Purdue went 6-6 this year?
November 28th, 2018 at 11:49 AM ^
Purdue with 6 wins and coach leaving vs #7 team in the country with coaching stability and excellent DL coaches. Yep, can't see any reason by Karlaftis would want to switch.
November 28th, 2018 at 12:08 PM ^
One game is not going to make or break things with a recruit you have built a relationship with
November 28th, 2018 at 2:59 PM ^
Not so sure, Karlarftis was/is being recruited heavily by Ohio State too, with Brohm leaving I could see them getting both him AND Harrison
November 28th, 2018 at 3:42 PM ^
Flipped Harrison? Didn't know he was committed. Karlarftis has always been Purdue unless Brohm leaves. At the time of this post, NOTHING has changed since the OSU game. Harrison hasn't committed, Karlarftis is going to Purdue. I am frustrated like many of you over OSU game, but your "shit show" comment in unwarranted.
November 28th, 2018 at 11:26 AM ^
If Brohm leaves and we get Karlaftis I will take that as a close trade to Harrison, or so that's how I will keep myself sane.
November 28th, 2018 at 11:31 AM ^
What a kick in the balls. If the outcome of one game is that much of a factor then his recent raised interest in Michigan was never super serious. Sounds like a lot of people starting putting the cart before the horse on that one. What we need is speed. If we have such great coaches as we say we have, let’s take some lower 4 star guys who are raw but just fly around the field and match the elite tier of CFB in athleticism, then coach them up. We all want the 5 stars but they didn’t all grow up die hard Michigan fans like us. We have a lot of ground to make up in the talent rich states because they more than likely grew up dreaming of playing for their home state college. It’s literally impossible for anyone,other than Alabama, to fill up their recruiting class with all 5 stars and high 4 stars. Even OSU and Clemson have their share of middling, lower recruits.
November 28th, 2018 at 11:37 AM ^
Wow, it doesn't take much for people to jump to conclusions.
Recruits were disappointed with Saturday's game. That doesn't mean anyone is jumping ship. It means coaches need to talk to recruits and address any concerns. That's nothing new for any of them.
November 28th, 2018 at 11:40 AM ^
That is literally what Sam said so my apologies if it didn’t come through in the OP.
November 28th, 2018 at 11:51 AM ^
To your comment about taking athletes, I feel that's what they have been doing with a lot of the lower rated guys. Guys that seem to have great measurable but play against poor competition, starred in other sports primarily, and/or didn't go to camp.
November 28th, 2018 at 11:52 AM ^
If a recruit is thinking about leaving his hometown and coming to Michigan, he is plenty of a Michigan fan. As fans, we want him to come to Michigan.