Michigan a -27.5 point favorite over Indiana
Already at 28 in some offshore markets such as 5dimes.
November 11th, 2018 at 6:30 PM ^
Seems a little high, but Michigan is on fire. We are not turning the ball over at all. Much different than last year. Especially at the QB position.
November 11th, 2018 at 6:49 PM ^
It’s shocking what raising the QB level from an F to D- ballpark to an B to A- one will do for a team.
November 11th, 2018 at 8:32 PM ^
Agreed. Let's not undersell the job our O line has done also. The improvement is mostly the QB, but the Oline has been helping.
November 12th, 2018 at 1:23 AM ^
I disagree. The biggest improvement is the OL. Shea would have gotten killed last year.
November 11th, 2018 at 8:59 PM ^
Agreed. Just see what MSU is experiencing with their offensive issues allowing their defense to be left on the field for too long.
Shea's QB Rating is solidly second in the Big Ten and the biggest thing seperating him from Haskins is volume of attempts.
November 11th, 2018 at 10:52 PM ^
Let me correct that:
... the biggest thing separating him from Haskins is volume of attempts and a competent running game, awesome defense, and unfathomably better education.
November 12th, 2018 at 8:29 AM ^
I was thinking more along the lines of the Ole Miss OL last year being rated in the same neighborhood as the Michigan OL and the results for the QB's.
November 11th, 2018 at 7:18 PM ^
I agree with you, that seems high. Michigan is especially on fire in home games. That being said, Indiana has been competitive with Michigan for the last 10 years and I expect Michigan to run vanilla offense. I don't think that IU will be competitve this year, I will take Michigan 42-7.
November 11th, 2018 at 8:14 PM ^
Rutger was a weekend off. Indiana will be a tune up for OSU and our guys will play with more focus.
November 11th, 2018 at 9:20 PM ^
Agreed.
It's the dress rehearsal for OSU, and the intensity will be high.
November 11th, 2018 at 10:10 PM ^
In general, people need to drop the "Indiana has played Michigan really close recently" narrative because it's just like every other stat that relies heavily on Hoke and Richrod era situations - it's very misleading
The last 2 years had JOK at starting QB. 2015 is the only real spooky game to me. Nothing in the Hoke or Richrod years has any bearing on this team. Even with the Hoke and Richrod years, Michigan still hasn't lost to Indiana since 1987. We're going to pave them no matter how much past teams didn't
November 11th, 2018 at 10:48 PM ^
don't forget the 2015 game was played with hoke and rich rod leftovers, when michigan has sound qb play indiana isn't an issue. 48-10
November 11th, 2018 at 7:41 PM ^
These Vegas odds haven't seemed to take into account that we're taking our foot off the gas against Rutgers and IU because both spreads are way too high. We're gonna play as vanilla offensively and defensively as possible, try to restrict injuries, and not give any schemes or plays away. I didn't think we were gonna cover against Rutgers and I think 27.5 seems a little high as well
November 11th, 2018 at 8:16 PM ^
If betters aren't on to that its their fault for not getting the line adjusted with the betting.
November 11th, 2018 at 8:31 PM ^
The spread was somewhere between 36 and 39 depending on the venue. Michigan won by 35. Not sure the Rutgers spread was way too high.
November 12th, 2018 at 1:29 AM ^
Yeah, but the Vegas odds also don't take murderwolf into account.
November 11th, 2018 at 8:45 PM ^
As you said early on, every possession needs to end with a kick. And they have done a great job with that.
November 11th, 2018 at 6:30 PM ^
That's exactly what their line with OSU opened up as. Is that relevant or interesting? IDK you tell me.
November 11th, 2018 at 6:31 PM ^
I would lean towards Indiana beating the spread because I think Michigan's priority will be on resting starters rather than running up the score
November 11th, 2018 at 7:29 PM ^
Well I mean, they just had a bye week a couple weeks ago. They just played Rutgers. How much time off do you want to give these guys? We all know what happens when you have your guys out there not going all out. I'll never forget the 265 pounder that rolled into my ankle when I was in la-la land. I'd say you take the momentum from a huge home win and ride it all the way into cbus. If everything works out, there is a three game stretch for the Michigan ages here and the team needs to be firing on all cylinders. You can say that you want to avoid injury but guys can get injured at any point in the season. Don't run Shae and rest the horse Higdon. Everyone else, keep them sharp into next week. It's only three more games. They've already had ten. Nothing is going to matter from here on out if the team isn't jacked up at the shoe and ready to beat down the beaters of significant others.
November 11th, 2018 at 9:00 PM ^
Don’t underestimate them. They hung with OSU and can move the ball.
November 11th, 2018 at 9:09 PM ^
Nebraska also hung around with OSU too though.
November 11th, 2018 at 6:31 PM ^
Man that's a lot of points. If I were a betting man... I'd be broke.
Seems like a long time since we blew out Indiana.
November 11th, 2018 at 6:52 PM ^
Oddly enough, Hoke’s last team beat them 34-10.
November 11th, 2018 at 7:50 PM ^
Xander Diamont was no match for Brady Hoke.
November 11th, 2018 at 9:54 PM ^
The Drake Johnson game. Hoke just had the best back on the team buried at like 5th on the depth chart
November 11th, 2018 at 6:34 PM ^
This is a game I would not take Michigan to cover. Indiana has a history of holding these games closer than expected
November 11th, 2018 at 6:54 PM ^
Different teams. This will be the first Indiana game in two years in which Michigan does not have John O'Korn under center. Also, Indiana is currently 81st in S&P. This will also be the first time we've faced an Indiana team that is outside of the S&P top 60 since 2014, and the lowest S&P-ranked Indiana team we've faced since 2010 (96th in S&P).
We're pretty healthy, we're playing at a high level, and Indiana has regressed a ton from the late Kevin Wilson, early Tom Allen years when they could chaos games up. Now, they're just a run of the mill bad team.
Edit: I should add that doesn't necessarily mean we cover...just that this won't be the recent Indiana outings where it's a legit game in the 4th quarter (slash OT ohmygodwewenttoovertimewithindianatwooutofthelastthreeyearsshhhhh).
November 11th, 2018 at 7:15 PM ^
Oh I don’t think it will be close. I just meant they will keep it close than expected, knowing them.
November 11th, 2018 at 7:17 PM ^
“Closer than expected” is different with this Michigan team than previous ones lol
I mean Michigan could cover but they aren’t really out for blood this game. Thinking maybe a score similar to Wisconsin - close to covering but maybe a few points under
November 11th, 2018 at 7:18 PM ^
Plus, Rutgers had a better defense than IU last I checked according to S&P+
November 11th, 2018 at 7:32 PM ^
That may have been true before we played Rutgers, I can't remember, but it is not true as of today. Rutgers' D is 102nd in S&P and Indiana's is 75th.
November 12th, 2018 at 10:13 AM ^
Speaking of S&P+, I was just fartin' around in there and Michigan has the #21 ranked offense. #27 Rushing attack and the... um... #7 Passing attack in the country?
I know it's based on efficiency and adjusts for tempo and all of that, and I feel Patterson is doing an even better job than the UFRs give him credit for, but that was eye-opening. A little more investigation and there seems to be a loophole in the formula:
#1, #2 & #6 are Oklahoma, Alabama & Georgia, which sound about right.
#3, #4, & #5 are Army, Georgia Tech & Air Force -- three triple-option teams. So obviously, chunk plays in limited quantity are rewarded.
This is usually the point where one would draw some profound conclusion, but I'm a dummy. Just thought it was interesting.
November 11th, 2018 at 6:35 PM ^
Holy hell thats a lot of points
November 11th, 2018 at 6:37 PM ^
Indiana is due to beat someone sometime they can't avoid #chaos forever...but not this Saturday!
November 11th, 2018 at 6:37 PM ^
This game scares me. They swing for the fence on every play. Forget the spread....just win!
November 11th, 2018 at 6:38 PM ^
Our defense is so dominant the spread comes down to how many points will our offense score
November 11th, 2018 at 6:44 PM ^
I think Vegas sees this as like a 38-10 type game. If it were at Indiana I’d say this is way too high but Michigan has been thumping teams at home.
November 11th, 2018 at 6:38 PM ^
Michigan has been a juggernaut at home. I agree 27.5 is high. I was thinking like 17. But, if trends follow, Michigan will roll over Indiana at home.
November 11th, 2018 at 7:04 PM ^
Come to think of it, the crowd should be VERY into this game.
Might grab a last second ticket to try to make it myself. Want to say "thank you" for a great season and make sure they are properly motivated.
Plus, the extra 30 minutes for tailgating beyond the usual 3:30 start should be put to good use with the consumption of copious amounts of belly warming liquor.
November 13th, 2018 at 2:15 PM ^
S&P+ has the spread at 22.5 points, which seems just about right.
November 11th, 2018 at 6:41 PM ^
Just win, please.
November 11th, 2018 at 6:44 PM ^
Wow, that seems high. A good sign for us. But I'd bet on Indiana there.
November 11th, 2018 at 6:49 PM ^
Is there an early line for the trip to Columbus?
November 11th, 2018 at 6:57 PM ^
I have seen two so far. One had Michigan -3.5 and one had OSU -1. /shrug
November 11th, 2018 at 7:01 PM ^
That seems crazy high.
November 11th, 2018 at 7:30 PM ^
i'm with the hillbilly. i'd have guessed about half that. hopefully my guess is way short.
November 11th, 2018 at 7:39 PM ^
Yeah, maybe it's PTSD from the close games we've had with them. Feels like Michigan should be -1 every year.
November 11th, 2018 at 9:21 PM ^
we attended the last snow bowl at the big house. that was a very cool game but as we know, it wasn't decided until de'veon smith put the team on his back and ran us to victory late in the game. in the snow. i'm not much worried about losing to IU, but that spread seems big. i do appreciate the comments on this thread that talk about senior night - that could indeed be a motivating factor to crunch the hoosiers.