September 16th, 2018 at 10:26 AM ^
OSU apologists gonna apologize.
September 16th, 2018 at 10:28 AM ^
It's tragic...what poor Urban has gone through.
After enabling a sociopathic drug dealer and future serial murderer at UF, he had to deal with the backlash of the Aaron Hernandez downfall.
Now, after knowingly enabling a wife beater and lying about his intimate knowledge of the situation which persisted for a decade, he must once again must answer "difficult" questions from the media, like, "how hard was it for you to be pseudo-suspended from coaching for 3 weeks."
All the while, he collects a measly multi-million dollar pay check from the University, not to mention other significant advertising and engagement revenues.
Please, somebody help this poor soul whom the world apparently seems bent on destroying despite all the good he brings.
Ghandi, Mandela, Dalai Lama, Mother Teresa, Urban Meyer. Sometimes the world is just too cruel to embrace the best among us.
September 16th, 2018 at 10:25 AM ^
Honestly, who cares? Quit filling our board with this scum bag. We know he's a piece of shit, but it just doesn't matter anymore. The world has spoken. Right, wrong, or indifferent, nothing more will come of this.
September 16th, 2018 at 10:58 AM ^
While I share your sentiment about Meyer in that he is a scumbag, it is on-topic as it pertains to a conference opponent, so the presence of the thread is within the bounds of the current rules.
September 16th, 2018 at 10:58 AM ^
The world spoke, evidence came out that pointed to the entire organization turning a blind eye to their own claimed "morals". Then the university chose to do the exact opposite of holding it's own employees accountable. Nothing will come of it as far as Meyer and his staff losing their jobs, however the people should still call it what it is and put the pressure of public opinion on OSU's shoulders.
If someone is caught lying, there should be a long road back to regaining trust, and by simply letting it go sets the example of unaccountably for any action that anyone should choose to do.
September 16th, 2018 at 10:58 AM ^
I agree to some extent but he's just so damn awful with interviews and they keep trotting him out there.
September 16th, 2018 at 2:15 PM ^
I hope trotting him out for interviews continues until his "heart condition" rears it's ugly head again.
We know that is complete BS because Urban has no heart. He is pathological.
Keep telling the lie until you actually believe it yourself.
September 17th, 2018 at 2:08 AM ^
Exactly! It’s not moral outrage anymore. It’s now just sour grapes and we all look like douchebags for it. We get it. He is dirty. How many times can you repackage it on this board? It’s tiresome and stupid.
September 16th, 2018 at 10:55 AM ^
Would not be surprised if Herbstriet was interviewing him.
September 16th, 2018 at 12:37 PM ^
I wouldn't be surprised if it was offered to Herbstriet but he turned it down. Kirk seems like a standup guy, he did move out of the state after all.
September 16th, 2018 at 1:02 PM ^
Herbstreit likely was present, but you didn't see him since the camera frame cut off above the waist
September 16th, 2018 at 10:55 AM ^
Saw it going through the channels, threw up in my mouth a little as I scrolled past. Next they'll interview john engler and talk about the healing process for the poor embattled board of trustees at MSU.
September 16th, 2018 at 11:18 AM ^
Wonder if they'll show on TV the standing ovation he'll get at his first game back at OSU stadium.
September 16th, 2018 at 12:53 PM ^
Probably. The words "overcoming adversity" are likely to be uttered at some point as well.
September 16th, 2018 at 1:33 PM ^
I’ll see your “overcoming adversity” and raise you, “now the healing process can begin”.
September 16th, 2018 at 4:04 PM ^
Yes sir, and I'll be there front and center.
September 16th, 2018 at 11:21 AM ^
Urban Meyer did this interview with a sympathetic and chosen reporter to test his remorse tale, to try to control the media onslaught he expects will seek to question his motives for inaction both in managing Smith and failure to fully cooperate with OSU's investigation leading to his temporary suspension.
Like others here, for me, his credibility is totally shot. I don't believe him on any level. I know his words will soothe his Buckeye faithful and perhaps calm fears among OSU recruits. Let them be deluded.
Meyer's actions and his thoughts don't add up. He claims he wanted to stabilize Zach Smith and his family, so he just let them be for almost a decade without finding anything out on his own when he knew there were issues to begin with that he failed to share with anyone at The Ohio State? He should have set up guardrails for his continued employment. That would have been something.
Meyer and his wife want credit for being helpful and advisory to Courtney Smith and her husband, and yet Meyer can't even acknowledge why he re-hired him at Ohio State, and why he continued to give him raises. And Meyer can't even tell a reporter when asked a direct question why his wife didn't share personal information with him about alleged domestic abuse that he claims he won't tolerate.
He not only tolerated it knowingly or not, he rewarded the abuser without personal or public challenge -- ever, in all situations.
More than that, he shows no real remorse other than for making a bad hiring decision. But going beyond that, why is it that no one asks Meyer or Gene Smith about their failure to hand over their phones when sought by school investigators and the head counsel's office. Why did neither comply with that request?
Nor has he offered any explanation for allegedly approving the deletion of one year's worth of text messages from a school-supplied phone.
Meyer wanted it on the record that he didn't get suspended for enabling a domestic abuser, that he was penalized for bad management of a bad hire. He was worse than a bad manager, not because of what he did or didn't do, but because he still can't come clean on any of his motives for this case.
And the reason he can't is because none of it makes any sense, not as a sympathetic onlooker, not as the highest paid public official in Ohio, not as the head football coach at the Ohio State University. His defense is pitiful.
He just looks like a bad parody of a coach who puts himself ahead of everything except winning. And because that is all that matters, he has to win the support of those around him to convince them that he truly is a great guy. He is not. He is a small-time leader at a big school seeking undeserved solace for what, actually? .
So, good luck to him with that character-building act going forward. Just understand this Meyer: we all know your shit really stinks.
September 16th, 2018 at 11:30 AM ^
Take this to the bank: during this year’s rendition of The Game, ESPN will do a 10-15 minute feature on the whole scandal, how Meyer was the subject of an unfair witch hunt, did what he was supposed to do and is a changed man from his days at Florida, how the whole team suffered and had to pull each other up to get through a truly trying time in their lives, how a brave and unconditionally loving fanbase rallied behind its embattled coach, and now the team is going to use all of this as fuel to go out and win it all.
You know, for Courtney Smith and stuff......
September 16th, 2018 at 11:37 AM ^
Urban is such a clown and a fraud.
September 16th, 2018 at 11:59 AM ^
When you wonder why survivors don’t come forward and don’t go to police and aren’t in the limelight leading the charge against abusers, think about how prominent abusers and enablers get softball interviews on platforms like Sportscenter and get to dictate their own redemption. Survivors get grilled and scrutinized on details more than the people accused of the transgressions.
September 16th, 2018 at 12:13 PM ^
This guy is a pathological liar. He has a basic personality disorder and the meds can only help so much. At some point the lie will cover up something even worse and he will get caught. It nearly happened at Florida before he resigned for "health" reasons.
September 16th, 2018 at 10:50 PM ^
There are no medications for antisocial personality disorder. Not a treatable condition. The joke is on the buckheads, they can win without Meyer.
September 16th, 2018 at 12:49 PM ^
When Michigan beats OSU, will Meyer deny that too?
September 16th, 2018 at 1:10 PM ^
When that happens Urban may not be coaching OSU anymore.
September 16th, 2018 at 1:30 PM ^
Witty comeback. You sure spend considerable time here. Did 11 Warriors kick you off for being a complete asshat?
Think about that...how much of a complete deranged asshat you would have to be to get the ban hammer at that site?
Scary.
September 16th, 2018 at 4:07 PM ^
I'm on that website too, same name. Go check it out. You don't have to register.
September 16th, 2018 at 1:13 PM ^
Some of you say Urban is a waste of your time. Why in god's name are you posting on the subject then?
September 16th, 2018 at 1:19 PM ^
Aren't you scheduled to wash Urban's balls?
Bring your wife/sister along so she can get another lesson from the God of character building.
Go back to 11 Warriors where you belong.
September 16th, 2018 at 4:11 PM ^
No! But I bet you got on your knees and begged Jim to come back.
September 16th, 2018 at 5:15 PM ^
No, that would be your wife/sister. She is cheating on you with Michigan fans.
Maybe if you spent some time with her instead of trolling this site she wouldn't need comfort from others.
Quick question - how confusing are family reunions for you? I imagine hard to keep track of all the "intereactions".
September 17th, 2018 at 10:05 PM ^
No that would be your mom.
September 16th, 2018 at 1:30 PM ^
This thread should be deleted.
September 16th, 2018 at 4:13 PM ^
It won't be because most ichigan fans have a hard on for Urban.
September 16th, 2018 at 5:18 PM ^
I've got a hard on for Shelly.
What can I say? I'm old.
September 17th, 2018 at 10:05 PM ^
Go for it!
September 16th, 2018 at 1:32 PM ^
Interesting.
Thanks OP. Now it seems more clear just why he was so worried about those old text messages.
I couldn't understand why he would even come forward to do this "soul baring" interview about what a nice guy he is and how all he wanted to do was help Zack and Courtney. Anyone outside of Ohio can see how how unconvincing that was.
If that wasn't enough blatant BS then he makes a point of saying Shelley didn't tell him anything. So that's it. Now that Urban feels comfortable that the text messages won't surface, he's returning to the prior narrative.
Seems risky. Even if the text messages are never recovered, it's such an implausible defense. The wife of one of the top head coaches in the country doesn't share information about her husband's employee that could blow up in his face. If I were Urban's attorney I would want to stay as far away from that topic as humanely possible, never mind intentionally bringing it up!
September 16th, 2018 at 1:35 PM ^
As Mark Twain said: "Lies, damn lies and Urban Meyer's lips moving!"
September 16th, 2018 at 1:41 PM ^
The article is entitled "Meyers opens up "? PUH LEEZE after he deleted all the evidence abd txt messages from his phone??? Not exactly the actions of a innocent man..Urban was, has been, and co ntinues to be a SNAKE IN THE GRASS
September 16th, 2018 at 1:44 PM ^
I disagree with the OP. They should keep Meyer in front of the cameras and let him keep exposing himself as an enabler of domestic violence.
September 16th, 2018 at 2:16 PM ^
I'm confused on what some of you wanted Urban to do here.
How exactly would firing Zach Smith and cutting off his source of income help improve this situation?
Urban knew the police were already involved. It wasn't like he tried to hide this incident from authorities. Law enforcement were ultimately the only ones that could do anything here.
September 16th, 2018 at 2:25 PM ^
You are indeed, confused. Wish I could help.
September 16th, 2018 at 2:36 PM ^
Confused and stupid.
September 16th, 2018 at 8:38 PM ^
Here is my take!
In approximately 3-5 months Meyer w be leaving OSU on “his own terms” and you will se him next fall at one of the following. BOOK IT
LSU, USC or Florida St.
its only a matter of time as he and his wife have now mentally checked out of OSU and I really think the regents or pres or whatever you call them have known this to be true and will accept it and move on.
September 17th, 2018 at 4:46 AM ^
There are clearly 2 sides to this story. No one ever gives a straight answer as to what Urban should have done different in regards to the alleged domestic violence. Courtney Smith's own mother has said she is a habitual liar and can't be believed. On several occasions Courtney has accused Zach of abuse and the police found that Zach was at a meeting or practice with multiple witnesses. Zach and Courtney are both flawed individuals with serious issues.
I agree Meyer asking how to delete texts is suspicious. I know I have texts on my phone I wouldny't want on public record. No one knows if he deleted anything or what it may have contained. Any of you saying you wouldn't want this guy as your coach are delusional. All of the top programs play in the "gray" area of the rules. Remember our national championship with the fab five? We're just jealous we aren't playing at their level.
September 17th, 2018 at 6:40 AM ^
We never won a national championship with the fab five for one. Even though I loved the fab five, I’ll take JB’s 2 final appearances over theirs any day.
Also, there are very few people in this fan base that would ever want um to coach here. Michigan isn’t perfect, but it is different. Michigan would not be Michigan if we hired Urb.
September 17th, 2018 at 9:46 AM ^
Part 2 of the interview about to be shown on Get Up