This Week’s Obsession: One Shining Moe-Ment Comment Count

Seth June 15th, 2018 at 2:08 PM

[Bryan Fuller]

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The Question:

When you close your eyes and think of Moe Wagner what moments come to mind? Can have multiple answers.

Ace: Trying to narrow it to one…

But if we had to, it would start here:

Seth: Other than Gary...

Ace: But that moment also shows why this starts to get really hard. That was the final blow in a two-year-long battle with Nick Ward that was an absolute joy to watch. Wagner had a few of those. The Painter-Beilein Wars spring to mind.

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Ace: One of the first things that comes to mind for me when I think of Moe Wagner is a Matt Painter postgame press conference.

I still have the quotes saved from when he asks the assembled media if they really want to hear this (I’m nodding furiously) and then goes full scheme-geek on how Wagner absolutely blows up everything you want to do on defense.

Seth: The one for me—other than "ankle breaker"—is late in the Final Four, drenched in more sweat than the guy whose job he usurped, dribbles into the lane then right back out to the corner like he just suddenly had an idea to shoot from out there instead, and swoosh.

Brian: Wagner was so sweaty against Loyola

BiSB: Carrying a team for 30 minutes is sweaty work.

Brian: The sweat a culmination of all the work he put in to become an outstanding defensive rebounder. The brow of the working man. The common 6'11" three point shooting man. The man who could no longer be called soft.

Ace: Seriously, though, those NBA Combine numbers!

Brian: He played 30 MPG at center for a top 5 defense.

Ace: Fair point. I was still surprised.

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Seth: Geoff Schwartz, an NFL lineman who tweets about drawing weakside ISOs on his daughter's magnetic doodle board, was in awe of Wagner's effort that day. Schwartz has never complimented anybody within 50 pounds of Moe.

Ace: Here’s a glorious sweat putback:

Brian: The moment towards the tail end of the first half against Loyola where he looked like Ricky Doyle in a sauna was a moment for these reasons.

But even though I wrote a whole dang column about Nick Ward's ankles…

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…I think my absolute favorite Moe moment was the year before:

Brian: Michigan entered that game a seven seed against two-seed Louisville and their criminal sex vampire coach; Louisville had four different seven-footers and Wagner ate all of their lunches. That upfake that gets a center to commit outside the three point line and guard-like drive to the hoop is Wagner's career in five seconds to me.

Ace: Wagner’s crowd theater stands out to me as much as almost any specific in-game moment. I have so many gifs of him that could be captioned “ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?”

Brian: Yes, the laughing on the bench gif

He was a walking meme.

Ace: Every foul call.



He was often justified!

Seth: So there's another one that wasn't his great basketball but it's embedded in my head under its gfycat name: Enchanted Lame Antelope Ground Squirrel. After Poole makes his shot he starts running and then realizes he's being chased by a 7-foot mad German and you can see the moment when his brain clicks off "I WON THE GAME" and goes to full fight or flight.

Ace: Yes, thank you. I couldn’t have been happier that the player nearest to Poole ended up being Moe.

Brian: It feels off brand for the blog to mention that Wagner stopped and consoled one of Houston's many Davii immediately after that GIF.

Like Peter King should say it instead of us.

But that was nice!

Seth: Sportsmanship!

Brian: We here at MGoBlog treasure sportsmanship.

Seth: Firm handshakes for everybody.

Brian: That means we're kicking them off the team.

(After they graduated!)

Seth: This is what comes of making light of #sportsmanship for a decade, sir.

Ace: And at the same time I absolutely understand why players (and opposing fans) hated him.

Brian: Oh god yes! The tongue alone.

Ace: Just imagine spending 30 minutes being dragged by a German dude who hits threes, doesn’t play defense, and calls you “bitch” every other possession.

…Nick Ward doesn’t need to imagine except for the 30 minutes bit.

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Seth: It's one thing to get trash talked all recess. It's another when it's the foreign exchange student. Also you guys: lips.

Ace: While we’re tied up in Wagner’s emotions, the interplay between him and Beilein also made for amazing theatre.

Brian: I wonder if Moe actually hooked Beilein up with his German hip-hop

Ace: This picture is unfairly taken out of context but it absolutely kills me every time:


[Marc-Grégor Campredon]

Also did NOT have to scroll far for one of these:


[Marc-Grégor Campredon]

But in the end:


[Bryan Fuller]

That’s another one for me: John Beilein talking about Moe Wagner while trying to keep a straight face.

Brian: They would have been perfect in a buddy cop movie. Also I have many ideas about good buddy cop movies involving Michigan persons, 98% of which star Don Brown as the curmudgeon about to retire.

Seth: "Pitch a Don Brown Buddy Cop Movie" is a future TWO.

So my first memory of Moe is his first game (not counting the scrimmage I didn’t go to) against Elon. It sticks because Marc-Gregor was so excited he got the shot and because Demorest and I are two of the fuzzy things behind it:


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Ace: Moe really grew an insane amount in two years. Seeing Baby Moe bleed is kinda jarring.

Brian: That's a wing.

Ace: Two years later, he dropped 24-15 in a national semifinal.

Brian: Another excellent on-court thing was that one specific game vs Purdue at Crisler where Matt Painter kicked off his desperation switching defense. As Ace mentioned, Wagner and Purdue made for really fun basketball games.

Ace: Also: learned English.



Just in time.

Ace: I’ll show my NBA habit and make a comparison for Moe that’ll seem odd initially: Steph Curry. There’s been a lot of talk this week based on this bit of brutal and 100% correct insight:

Nobody since Stauskas had Crisler under their spell like Moe when he had it rolling and man that Purdue game was one of those times.

Ace: This post would’ve been incomplete without the German three signal.

Seth: Oh what about that Wisconsin game last year (Feb 2017).


Find the spot where Moe goes off.

Ace: A lot of it runs together for me. There are absolutely peaks that stand out but it’s more faces and threes and murder offense and foul trouble and touching Player’s Tribune articles.

Which is another thing: it was genuinely remarkable to watch a kid from Berlin grow to love and understand Michigan in ways that he expressed quite beautifully by the end of his career.

Seth: Also: mad dunks.


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Ace: Yes, MAAR’s face. Also: the future of Wisconsin basketball.

Seth: MAAR vs the camera lens is undefeated.

BiSB: It's hard to believe he was only 20 when he played his last game. The guy was mature and contemplative beyond his years. But only after he played the game like a 16-year-old hopped up on Pixy Stix and Surge.

Ace: Really personable, too. He found a way to connect with people. This will sound a little fanboy-ish but whatever. I’m not one who asks a lot of questions in pressers. After a game this year I was the last person lingering behind the player scrum for Wagner, who I really doubt knows me from Adam (so to speak, hi Adam), and I slipped in an off-kilter question that I don’t completely remember but am 97% sure was about Jordan Poole. A lot of guys would quite understandably fire off something quick and run back to the locker room. He paused for a moment, said something legitimately funny and insightful, and winked before heading for the exit.

Seth: Also: ran over Tom Crean.

Brian: You're going to be asking a lot of questions about mulch next year

Ace: I’ve already taken notes on pitchforks vs. shovels.

BiSB: Jars three. Runs over Tom Crean. Appears to feel bad about running over Tom Crean. The Moe Wagner Story.

Brian: God if that was Izzo instead of Crean he'd have a statue already

Ace: We can give him partial credit for this:

Brian: I think this is where i say YAAAAAAS QUEEEN?

Ace: Good couple years for angry opposing coach gifs, and again, Wagner is largely responsible. Also some very short opposing coach postgame press conferences, hello Tom Crean.

Brian: Pretty much the direct cause of Twenty Minutes Of Izzo Eating His Liver At Breslin

BiSB: Unlike Izzo, at least Wagner put Nick Ward on the floor once in a while.

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Ace: I feel like I’m taking the lid off my still-only-outlined Moe retrospective post early but, yeah, that man’s legacy is being pure uncaged emotion and sucking everything around him into that vortex. I’ll, uh, work on the metaphor.


Ace: Are we missing anything glaringly obvious?

Brian: Probably

But that's what commenters are for.

Ace: One last shoutout to his signature, awkward, devastating behind-the-back move, which in addition to murderating Nick Ward’s ankles also produced the most hilariously evil basket in the Texas A&M game, which was 40 minutes of hilariously evil baskets:

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May 22nd, 2018 at 2:31 PM ^

My 3 boys (2 6-year old twins and a 3-year old) will miss Moe this next year. They have loved yelling his name out while watching games, usually just imitating their dad. They loved his celebrations, especially the tongue wag. Good luck in the NBA, Moe, and thanks for the memories.


May 22nd, 2018 at 2:41 PM ^

This was most definitely one of my favorite "Week's Obsession" articles I've read. Man I'm going to miss Moe. I do think Jordan Poole will take over a bit on the Personality front, but Moe took away from me the void that was left when Stauskas bolted for the NBA. I missed that swag. 

I was so busy with things going on in my life this past year that I didn't get to enjoy the basketball season like I had wished. This helped remind me how truly great of a season 2017-18 was as well as just how special Moe was/is.

I will say that I don't expect to see another lapse like we did after Stauskas, Robinson, and McGary left. Future is bright. More memories will be made. 


May 22nd, 2018 at 2:56 PM ^

"Pitch a Don Brown Buddy Cop Movie" is a future TWO."

I have a long memory, I will remember this was promised.  Please make sure it happens.  It's a long summer.

Boner Stabone

May 22nd, 2018 at 2:56 PM ^

Mo Slayed a lot of dragons while here, these are my favorites:


*Giving Pitino his last loss at Louisville

*Ankle breaking Nick Ward 

*Giving Izzo multiple ulcers

*Taking down Herpes infested Isaac Haas

*Body slamming Tom Crean at IU



May 22nd, 2018 at 3:27 PM ^

and they loved him anyway. 

He was special. Exuberant and joyful like very few players. We were very lucky to have him. That he was German made everything weirder and better and truer. 


May 22nd, 2018 at 3:41 PM ^

I am a sucker for Ann Arbor romanticism, but for me it honestly will be both of his player's tribune articles these last two years. 

It was so clear he was one of us. And by us I mean students. He clearly loved Michigan and Ann Arbor in the same way we all do. And for those of us who have since graduated, he was a window back into our time on campus. I've always professed that what makes Ann Arbor and the Michigan student experience special is that it has a meaningful niche for every one who comes. Be it an un athletic kid from mid Michigan farm country (me) or a basketball marvel from Berlin. Pure nostalgia. 

Evil Empire

May 22nd, 2018 at 3:50 PM ^

That is tremendous.  Tom's position and facial expression afterwards rival even the Shon Morris interview pic.

And yes I sure wish he had done that to Izzo.  It might have topped Tim Hardaway Jr trying to join in on the Izzo-Appling conversation in 2013.

Wolverine In Iowa 68

May 22nd, 2018 at 3:57 PM ^

I saw the Crean creaming live when it was on.  The only thing that would have been better would have been if the ref would have called a tech on Crean for interference.  That would have been CLASSIC, but he wasn't far enough out of the coaches' box to qualify, so he just had the embarassment of getting plowed.

matty blue

May 22nd, 2018 at 4:04 PM ^

i love that guy.  such a joyful player.


one of the things i love about michigan is the stamp it puts on people.  this university just becomes a part of you.

by all rights, moe should've come here, played some good, hyper basketball, and moved on without looking back over his shoulder.  instead, this german kid with not much knowledge of the history of this place (and i'm not talking about athletics, at all) will leave as...yeah, i'll say it - a michigan man.  he got it, somehow.


what a place.



May 22nd, 2018 at 6:50 PM ^

This year of basketball for me was one met with a lot of "Basketball too? I thought you just had to watch all the football games." from my wife. Luckily, she understood, and I was able to watch every available minute of Moe & crew. It was absolutely worth it. Thanks, Moe. Good luck big man. 


May 22nd, 2018 at 10:05 PM ^

I remember seeing him play his freshman year and seeing what he has grown into has been amazing. The passion he showed on the court was truly inspiring and I think he will definitely go down as one of my favorite Michigan basketball players. I'm going to miss his behind the back dribble drives, but I'm really gonna miss his pure energy and enthusiasm that he showed on the court every game. Go make your money, Moe, and show the world what you're made of. It seems impossible to not succeed with the drive and passion he exudes 


May 24th, 2018 at 3:49 PM ^

I forgot how skinny he was coming off his redshirt year. Looks completely different now.

Edit: how do I up or downvote? Do I need a certain number of points?


June 22nd, 2018 at 8:25 AM ^

My favorite memory was at this year’s preseason selfi night. Moe was sitting on a tall stool when my wife and I approached for our photo. I said “Moe, can you stand up for this?” I wanted the full height contrast. He said “Sure” and jumped right up smiling and put his long arms around us. I will save that photo forever.