Post M v Wisc lamenting thread
Bummer game, frustrating to watch, too many bad shots, bad passes and another lacking performance from Nik. What's wrong with him lately, I hope he wakes the hell up soon, if we're gonna do anything worthwhile, we need a stellar Nik, not nonchalant Nik.
February 16th, 2014 at 3:18 PM ^
Start playing basketball closer to tip-off.
There was a lot of resilience in shaving that 18 point deficit down to a 3 point deficit, but in the end it was too little way too late.
Maybe Nebraska can do us a solid and beat MSU.
February 16th, 2014 at 3:11 PM ^
could have played a lot better- we will need him against Sparty. And I hope Horford/Morgan figure out how to play post defense in the next 7 days
February 16th, 2014 at 4:05 PM ^
I'll admit I'm a pretty casual fan when it comes to basketball, but when was the last time we had a post game on either side of the floor? Our bigs just seem so small out there and non-physical. I don't want to rag on Morgan or Horford but I just feel like we have no inside presence and haven't in years.
February 16th, 2014 at 3:11 PM ^
Gotta give it up to Caris, I'm not his biggest fan but he was the only one creating and doing something on offense.
February 16th, 2014 at 3:13 PM ^
Both teams played hard.
February 16th, 2014 at 3:35 PM ^
Dynamite drop-in Monty
February 16th, 2014 at 3:58 PM ^
'Stache don't lie!!
February 16th, 2014 at 3:13 PM ^
I think we can say with near certainty that they will show up big time, and possibly even beat Sparty. Then the very next game...'Bueller?'...Very frustrating and it makes it hard to anticipate any sort of deep tourney run.
February 16th, 2014 at 3:17 PM ^
Now with them being pissed, they will beat State. But then come up flat again. Fortunatly, it out opponents wont be as good as Iowa or Wisconsin so maybe coming out flat wont hurt us as much. However last years team went 6-6 down the stretch in the B1G 10. We all know what happened next. The B1G 10 is really fucked up.
February 16th, 2014 at 3:28 PM ^
Oh come on. We were just like this late in the Big Ten season last year. Sometimes, you don't play well. That's sports.
February 16th, 2014 at 3:14 PM ^
I'm not one to question coaching much, but seemed pretty obvious that they should've started doubling Kaminski after he beat Morgan twice in a row late in the game (even if that meant risking a kick out J).
February 16th, 2014 at 3:14 PM ^
This is the third straight game where we fell flat on our face to start. If they want to do anything in the tournament this can't happen. This is like Nik's fifth bad game in a row. Other teams finally have figured out how to guard him. That means somebody has to step up and right now that looks like Caris.
February 16th, 2014 at 6:02 PM ^
We would be 10-3 going into sparty before the season everyone would have taken it. Yes, bad start today but give wiscy some credit. They are a good team, came out hot and had an answer for everything. There will be lulls in the season and if ours is going 2-3 in a tough 5 game stretch then I can live with that. This team has gotten a lot out of what we have.
February 16th, 2014 at 3:15 PM ^
¡despedida Borges!
February 16th, 2014 at 3:15 PM ^
there I said it.
February 16th, 2014 at 3:16 PM ^
There was nothing about that game I didn't hate. From the tip-off to letting those thugs in buzzcuts run away with the game to playing like their heads were firmly up their behinds on both offense and defense. I'll give them that they didn't quit but this game was a comprehensive failure. Whatever magic sauce the guys found after a similarly uneven run last year would sure be nice now.
February 16th, 2014 at 3:17 PM ^
Played like a team that has no business even sniffing the sweet sixteen. Massive disappointment.
February 16th, 2014 at 3:17 PM ^
I'm not mad, we're a better team than this. Let's get the bad losses out of the way now.
February 16th, 2014 at 3:36 PM ^
You mean as opposed to when the conference title is completely out of reach?
February 16th, 2014 at 3:17 PM ^
That went well.
I should have watched ice dancing.
February 16th, 2014 at 3:17 PM ^
Solution: Reschedule all weekend games to weeknights.
February 16th, 2014 at 3:18 PM ^
may now commence.
February 16th, 2014 at 4:56 PM ^
ensue the panic
February 16th, 2014 at 3:19 PM ^
What's the answer on post D? We get owned in the post.
Frieder and Fisher's teams were very good at instantly doubling the deep post without leaving open three looks . . . albiet with generally more athletic and older players.
Don't know what Beilein can do at this point, but if Payne has 10 seconds alone with the ball deep in the post every time, we are going to lose no matter if we shoot well on the other end or not.
February 16th, 2014 at 3:37 PM ^
play better. they constantly let kaminski catch and go to his right hand. overplay that. or front him on occasion. they let him get wayyyyy to comfortable.
that said, i would have liked to see caris be the guy to help out on occasion since jackson is not a good shooter.
imo, gr3 has never been a good help defender. on that one drive from kaminski from the 3, gr3 stood there and watched him blow past morgan for the layup. if he takes one step toward the basket, he gets a charge.
February 16th, 2014 at 3:42 PM ^
We typically do double down low. But we seemed really concerned about the kick out. And for good reason. They killed us on that in the first half. Kaminsky was on fire and was a tough assignment since he could drive, shoot from the outside, and kick. We will definitely have to do a better job against Payne.
February 16th, 2014 at 3:43 PM ^
We don't look good in the post, but who else has had a great game against us over the past 2 years? ( I'm ready for the barrage of selective memory hitting me over the head)
February 16th, 2014 at 4:05 PM ^
Going from memory . . . State, Wisky, Iowa, Indiana, Ohio State, maybe even Purdue, all had good games against us in the post the last two years where it looked like we had no answer. I won't even mention Kansas and Lousiville, that's not fair. But it has been our weakness - defending the post on D and attacking the post on O.
February 16th, 2014 at 3:19 PM ^
Michigan won the 2nd half 43-41, so there's that?
February 16th, 2014 at 3:21 PM ^
was pretty much all Levert. The performance by everyone else, coaches included, was pretty awful today.
February 16th, 2014 at 3:21 PM ^
Appling in the game now for Staee
February 16th, 2014 at 3:24 PM ^
in the B1G. Need to play for a better seeding in the tournament.
Doing well in the tournament is a bigger boast to recruiting than winning the B1G.
February 16th, 2014 at 3:26 PM ^
Sparty will play an uninspired game as well, crossing my fingers.
February 16th, 2014 at 9:20 PM ^
Drop everything and go play the lottery right now.
February 16th, 2014 at 3:27 PM ^
Well, for what it is worth...
Wisconsin eFG% - 50.86%
Wisconsin OREB% - 30.30%
Wisconsin free throw rate - 36.21%
Wisconsin turnover % - 2.89%
Other stuff - 10 assists and only 2 turnovers - 58 possessions for 1.25 PPP.
Michigan eFG% - 46.00%
Michigan OREB% - 22.58%
Michigan free throw rate - 36.00%
Michigan turnover % - 13.45%
Also 5 assists, 9 turnovers - 58 possessions for 1.05 PPP.
February 16th, 2014 at 3:32 PM ^
2.89 turnover percentage is insane.
February 16th, 2014 at 3:40 PM ^
I have always been impressed by Ryan's teams that they really don't travel, charge, move on picks, etc. on the offensive end, it's hard to get mad at the officials. But not today. Down the stretch they were masters of the: ball fake, move both feet, then dribble. They had 4 in a row that were pretty obvious travels. I just don't get it.
February 16th, 2014 at 3:30 PM ^
I wouldn't mind seeing Caris as the focal point on offense right from the start. He can get around any defender, which no other player on our team can do. He'll turn the ball over more, but are turnovers really worse than end of shot clock heaves? Teams are game-planning for Nik, and he can't get free. He's going to have to come back next year in phenomenal shape and play off screens like Reggie Miller or Rip Hamilton.
February 16th, 2014 at 3:31 PM ^
i wonder if beilein is going to break out the two-man game for nik/caris come tourny time. have them set picks for each other than dish and drive or kick out for the 3. not sure how teams could defend that.
February 16th, 2014 at 4:15 PM ^
Nik Caris screens would just get switched every time. Then it'd be an isolation or have to get into another action.
February 16th, 2014 at 3:31 PM ^
It's very frustrating that in Beilein's time here our big men continue to be liabilities at both ends of the floor.
February 16th, 2014 at 3:34 PM ^
Mitch McGary was a liability?
February 16th, 2014 at 3:39 PM ^
Mitch McGary had some good games in the tournament last year. That's really it.
February 16th, 2014 at 3:48 PM ^
he had some all american games in the tourny. he was never a liability out there when he played. even when he was missing bunnies early on, he still grabbed a ton of rebounds and steals.
February 16th, 2014 at 3:42 PM ^
That you bitch about Coach. Child please.
February 16th, 2014 at 3:43 PM ^
deshawn sims was pretty bad too right? basically, we had one year in between sims and mcgary. and i think morgan got all big 10 on D that year. but whatever.
February 16th, 2014 at 3:51 PM ^
It's very frustrating that you don't appreciate the success we've had under Beilein's time at UM.