Main difference being (and I'm glad about this difference) that Lloyd left on 100% his own terms and wasn't forced out (regardless of what some dumb ESPN Big Ten blog post asserts)

Well, would you sell your soul in order to win?

Everybody knows Ohio fans have no souls because they're ginger (i.e. wear red).

I would gladly sacrifice the 2 losing seasons under RR for beating OSU 9 out of 10 times and winning NC's....the suspensions were mostly about players getting paid and Tressel playing stupid....I would gladly take that bad single year (with the future of a functional offense) then the shit Michigan has endured the past 5 years (minus the Sugar Bowl season)

Nope, I don't want any sanctions at Michigan, ever. Either win the right way or don't win at all. This is one of the reasons I am very thankful that Hoke, Mattison, and Borges are at Michigan. I don't feel the need to throw mud and cast aspersions on other coaches or teams, but there are coaches who have been run up the flagpole who I wouldn't want in a million years at Michigan.

I'm not so naive as to think that many winning teams haven't cut corners. But the less you cut corners, the better. And when you know something is wrong, you need to not do it.

The NCAA has created problems by ridiculous, picayune, idiotic rules and regulations. It is difficult to ever be in complete compliance. Worse, they sometimes focus on all the minutiae of the rule book, and miss the big picture.

But whether big or small, I would much prefer that Michigan programs do things the right way. There are some inherent advantages Michigan has (facilities, history of success, great University, family atmosphere.) There are some inherent disadvantages (not in the south, hard school to get into, not a ton of 4 & 5 star talent in the State of Michigan.) Regardless of these advantages and disadvantages, we need to do things the right way, all the time, and settle things on the playing field.

This is why, despite the good things that happened in basketball 20 some years ago, there can't be a full embrace of the Fab-5 and of Steve Fisher. I loved watching those teams, and I'm not as vindictive as some Michigan fans. but there's been a lack of ownership for the wrong things that happened, and winning that way just is wrong.

The question you pose is like the Churchill quote:

“Churchill: "Madam, would you sleep with me for five million pounds?" Socialite: "My goodness, Mr. Churchill... Well, I suppose... we would have to discuss terms, of course... "
Churchill: "Would you sleep with me for five pounds?"
Socialite: "Mr. Churchill, what kind of woman do you think I am?!" Churchill: "Madam, we've already established that. Now we are haggling about the price”

I don't care if Michigan was guaranteed success over Ohio, and National Championships galore, we'd just be whoring after success at any cost, and selling out our character. Once your character and your integrity are gone, they don't come back quickly.

I would take it in a heartbeat.  Absolutely no questions asked.  OSU fans are enjoying their football program a lot more than we have enjoyed ours.  The rules about amateurism are questionable, so I have absolutely no moral qualms about violating them, and this is definitely one situation where the saying "everybody does it" applies. 

Even the premise of having to accept bowl bans and sanctions isn't a sure thing.  Auburn bought Cam Newton and didn't get a slap on the wrist.  Oregon bribed a scout with university funds to steer a 5* RB there, and they got barely a slap on the wrist.  OSU got a one year bowl ban after ten years of massive cheating.

I have had more than enough "losing with honor" to last a lifetime.  If the rules themselves had a moral basis, I would feel differently about this, but they don't.  The rules of amateurism are arbitrary and based on an ideal that doesn't exist.

Here's the thing - that this is even a choice shows how broken the NCAA is.

There is no way that a school - any school - should be able to do what OSU did and be anywhere near a NCG two years later.  It should have been hammered into peices.  That is, if the rules are actually rules.  

The fact is that the NCAA is just stacks of "rules" with the enforcement power of a wet paper towel. There is an argument that OSU did it right - provided minimal cooperation, trusted its players going to the NFL to keep silent, got through the Fickle year, and moved on.   This isn't "the right way" to do things, but I'll be damned if it ain't effective and doesn't pay those bills.  If you are an Al Davis-kinda fan, this works.  Increasingly, those who do it "the right way" are coming up three yards short and playing on December 28.  This should not be.

There needs to be a replacement to the NCAA because it just doesn't work anymore.  There needs to be an understanding of the rules (all out pay for play or cost-plus or whatever) and the ability to actually punish violators.  

If you throw your Mom into the deal, I'll consider it.

to me too.  I have been really confused as to why majority sentiment has turned against him in the last few years.  If it is was confined to just a perceived underperformance of his teams on the field it would be one thing, but some of the stuff against him lately has seemed personal.  I always really liked Mack Brown and liked watching his teams play.

with mutliple 5 star talent on the roster....i doubt hardly any Texas fans will be missing Mack Brown...sure he seems to be a nice guy and ran a clean program, but wins and losses are the only thing that matters at a school with the highest bankroll in the country

Why? I doubt most of them have had much fun rooting for their team to go 5-7, 8-5, 9-4, 8-4. And only winning the big xii twice since 1998 while stoops won it 8 times in that timespan. 

Just like Michigan fans don't miss going 9-3, 7-5, 11-2, 9-4 while Tressel was winning big ten title after big ten title. Just because we went 7-5 this year doesn't mean I long for the days of Lloyd. Not at all.