Afternoon Games (Open) Thread ***updated from "Early Afternoon Games"***

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3:30 PM Syracuse at No. 2 Florida State
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3:30 PM No. 25 Georgia at No. 7 Auburn CBS    
3:30 PM No. 12 Oklahoma State at No. 24 Texas FOX    
3:30 PM No. 16 Michigan State at Nebraska
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3:30 PM No. 23 Miami (FL) at Duke    
3:30 PM Michigan at Northwestern BTN    
3:30 PM TCU at Kansas State      
3:30 PM South Alabama at Navy CBS Sports Network    
4:00 PM Utah at No. 6 Oregon FOX Sports 1    
5:30 PM California at Colorado Pac-12 Network    

 

SalvatoreQuattro

November 16th, 2013 at 1:23 PM ^

You'll have to show a program that was in a similiar state to UM in 2011. Ohio and Bama were not since the previous staffs left players who were a) talented and b) who fit the system the new staff desired.  

 

 

andrewgr

November 16th, 2013 at 1:16 PM ^

OSU has 4 new starters on the OL next  year, none of whom have ever pushed for starting time in their careers.  Of their 5 likely OL backups, 4 of them will be true sophomores or red-shirt freshmen.  They also lose their first and second string running backs.  It's probably 50/50 whether Braxton Miller leaves a year early or not.

Projecting them to be undefeated seems... premature.

andrewgr

November 16th, 2013 at 1:32 PM ^

Sure, but going undefeated is hard, even against cruddy teams.  If you have a 90% chance of winning each individual game, you've only got a 28% chance of winning 12 games.  Getting his players to play well is fine, but I don't think it should automatically be assumed to translate to a greater than 90% of winning  your average road game in the Big 10, or a home game agaist VT.  If it was that easy, there would be way more undefeated teams at the end of the regular season every year than there are.

alum96

November 16th, 2013 at 1:28 PM ^

Their defense is going to be loaded next year.  Almost their entire DL is freshman, RS freshman, and sophomores.  They have ordinary linebacking this year outside of 1 LB and the secondary has one relatively overrated guy named Roby - it is a very young defense that has made leaps and bounds from early September.  But no worries, I am sure there will be tremendous drop off because they dont have a coaching staff who can develop players.  

ghost

November 16th, 2013 at 1:42 PM ^

First off halff their starting D-Line are juniors. Yes they will likely be back, but stating they are  freshmen and sophmores is false.

 

Oh and OSU 's defense improvement magically occured when they stopped playing teams with fuctioning offense.  Shocking!  What a coincidence.

alum96

November 16th, 2013 at 1:51 PM ^

Here is their 2 deep

  • Noah Spence SO - starter
  • Jamal Marcus SO - 2 deep
  • Tommy Schutt SO - 2 deep
  • Chris Carter RS SO - 2 deep
  • Adolphus Washington SO - pushed out by Bosa it appears
  • Joey Bosa FR - starter

Bosa, Washington, Schutt, Spence are prime time players doing big things already.  They have 4 juniors, 2 who start at tackles.  Backup Miller (DE), Hale and Bennett at tackles and Moore as another backup DE.  No seniors.   They will be loaded on the DL and its VERY youthful.  

 

An Angelo's Addict

November 16th, 2013 at 1:23 PM ^

I wish Borges would just watch some game tape on this OSU offense. We have an athletic QB surrounded by weapons. Why not introduce pistol read option with a quick screen pass as a counter out of that formation? I just don't get it man

snarling wolverine

November 16th, 2013 at 1:29 PM ^

I haven't seen any of Wisconsin-IU, but that 27-0 score is awfully impressive.  As much as Bielema seemed like a meathead, he really raised Wisconsin to a high level (higher than they were under Alvarez), and they're still there.

alum96

November 16th, 2013 at 1:37 PM ^

UCLA OL

  • T: Xavier Sua-Filo Class of 2009
  • G: Scott Quessenberg Class of 2013
  • C: Jake Brendel Class of 2011
  • G: Alex Redmond Class of 2013
  • T: Caleb Benenoch Class of 2013

41 pts vs Washington, 31 vs Arizona, 45 v Colorado, 14 and 10 vs Stanford and Oregon, 37 vs Cal, 34 v Utah, 41 vs common opponent Nebraska

But...but...but.... nothing can be accomplished against solid teams with freshman or RS freshman on your line!   Borges told me.

Mr. Adrian Klemm, please come to Michigan.

 

snarling wolverine

November 16th, 2013 at 1:39 PM ^

We have played the whole "Find the one outlier in the whole country and draw questionable conclusions from it" game many times.

I get that you're MAD AND WON'T TAKE IT ANYMORE, but the reality is that most lines with an interior as young as ours are going to suck.  It could be that Funk is coaching poorly and that's adding to the suckitude, but the fact that one team in the country can manage with a young OL tells us little.

alum96

November 16th, 2013 at 1:43 PM ^

No one is asking for a Wisconsin line.  I am asking for top third MAC level OL at this point. 

And Mr. Klemm apparently coaches the RBs as well so we can let Jackson retire, send Funk out, hire Klemm to take both spots and hire a full time DL coach so Hoke can concentrate on... well whatever he does. 

ghost

November 16th, 2013 at 1:44 PM ^

He also just happens to forget the fact that UCLA has a future first round draft pick playing QB that helps there young o-line a lot.  And if he had actually watched UCLA play at all this year he would know that while they have run the ball well Hundley has spent a lot of this year running for his life and getting clobbered.

alum96

November 16th, 2013 at 2:01 PM ^

Important question: Is Hundley running for his life in front of the line of scrimmage or behind?  Inquiring minds want to know.  I ask facetiously of course.  They had a LB run for 4 TDs and 60 yards yesterday... seemed to be ok.

The have >2000 yards rushing to 1200 for UM.  I think they are doing ok.  But I am sure it's all because of the QB.