OT - Peyton's Dominance
My apologies if you're growning nauseous from all of the P. Manning praise but the dude is playng at an insane level right now.
Over the first 4 games:
TD-Int: 16-0
Completion Percentage: 75.0
QB Rating: 138.0
Ave Points: 45
Last Sunday against the Eagles, during his last four touchdown drives, three 80-yard drives and one of 65, he failed to convert a third down...because he didn't have any.
What is that? 36 plays, 305 yards, 28 points, no third downs? What did he do in the off season, study offense in the CFL?
The web is flooded with articles singing his praises. Here's one I stumbled across that pointed out the above stats:
http://mmqb.si.com/2013/09/30/peyton-manning-monday-morning-quarterback/
If you dislike the Cowboys like I do you might be able to enjoy watching him run it up on them this Sunday (it's the 4PM game on CBS in my market). Watching one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever play the game and see the Cowboys get a beatdown, win-win!
October 3rd, 2013 at 11:02 AM ^
I agree he is a great quarterback. He's doing some magical things. I would also tell you to edit your post and make it OT before people go nuts on you.
October 3rd, 2013 at 11:05 AM ^
I was just going to say this as well, make sure to change the title to OT.
October 3rd, 2013 at 11:13 AM ^
for the tip.
October 3rd, 2013 at 5:57 PM ^
He's a really good qb but he's overrated to me. He's always had really good wars and line and running game. Unlike our boy Tom whose always had washed up players or players he made great or rookies, hes only had a true number one wr in moss and set a nfl record. Give Tom that he would have 8 tings by now. Manning isn't even .500 in the playoffs, and has played shitty teams thus far. He's having a great yr no doubt but again we will see in the playoffs
October 4th, 2013 at 6:12 AM ^
a good war
October 3rd, 2013 at 11:05 AM ^
Didn't he almost win a Heisman? Who did he lose to again?
October 3rd, 2013 at 12:30 PM ^
Moss = swagger
October 3rd, 2013 at 4:17 PM ^
Now, that is a Heisman ceremony line-up.
- One of the greatest WR ever in the NFL. Arguably, top 5 of all time (maybe not stats wise but he was a FREAK athlete).
- Then you have Woodson (7 pro-bowls, defensive player of the year, all decade team, etc...). He might not be the greatest DB ever to play, but he was and is a gamer that will grace Canton someday.
- Peyton forget about it... Stud stats - Super Bowl Championship - Funny as hell commercials. In the discussion for greatest ever. Top 5 QB absolutely.
- Then Mr. Leaf - the ultimate Hall of Shamer. Anybody reading this is more likely to get inducted into Canton than Ryan Leaf.
October 3rd, 2013 at 9:45 PM ^
Peyton and Woodson have the same number of Super Bowl Championships.
October 3rd, 2013 at 4:51 PM ^
There he is! Stealin' Peyton's thunder since 1997!
October 4th, 2013 at 11:54 AM ^
Moss swagg he appreciate the winner I like this picture..
October 3rd, 2013 at 12:26 PM ^
Some Heisman years are better than other. Mark Ingram? Lousy year. Reggie Bush and Vince Young playing "can-you-top-this?" Good year. Woodson deservedly earning the Heisman on the back of gigantic big-game performances over guys like Manning and Moss? Great year for the award.
October 3rd, 2013 at 2:46 PM ^
And don't discount Ryan Leaf just because he turned out to be a headcase. Guy was lights-out that year with a stacked core of receivers. I'd argue that year was just about as good a field if finalists as there's been in the last two decades.
October 3rd, 2013 at 3:59 PM ^
Leaf had better numbers than Manning:
- Leaf: 3968 yards, 9.7 YPA, 34 TD, 11 int, 158.7 rating
- Manning: 3819 yards, 8.0 YPA, 36 TD, 11 int, 147.7 rating
Plus, Randy Moss had 1820 yards and 26 (!) TDs receiving, which is just ridiculous.
October 3rd, 2013 at 4:22 PM ^
Problem was Peyton had a cannon above his shoulders, and Leaf a BB gun.
October 3rd, 2013 at 11:07 AM ^
conditions will change the man, wait till winter.
October 3rd, 2013 at 11:10 AM ^
Pretty soon he will go all Vanilla Ice and then all he has to look forward to is a home restoration show on HGTV.
October 3rd, 2013 at 11:09 AM ^
Dude is just unreal right now. Helps to have a great team around him, but this is a truly special run he's on right now.
October 3rd, 2013 at 11:10 AM ^
this Grantland article is much more interesting.
October 3rd, 2013 at 12:12 PM ^
Now THAT was a good read.
October 3rd, 2013 at 2:42 PM ^
the sock folding room ! Wouldn't everyone have one? /s
Go Blue!
October 3rd, 2013 at 11:11 AM ^
It may also be noteworthy that Peyton Manning is also currently averaging the most yards per attempt of his career at 9.4 YPA, and the second-highest average yards per completion at 12.6 yards (highest on this stat was 2004). In four games, he has already thrown for 1,470, which would probably put him on track to hit 5,000 yards for the season even if he eased up a little bit.
Manning's career numbers, for the board's perusal / analysis - HERE
October 3rd, 2013 at 11:11 AM ^
But he never won the Heisman
October 3rd, 2013 at 2:28 PM ^
he never beat Florida and Spurrier either.
October 4th, 2013 at 2:49 AM ^
You can't spell Citrus without "U T"
October 3rd, 2013 at 11:12 AM ^
When it comes to winning regular season games Peyton has no equal.
The playoffs on the other hand seem to present a bit more of a challenge to him......
October 3rd, 2013 at 11:33 AM ^
I realize QBs are measured on number of Super Bowl titles but I would argue that it's still pretty dang hard to win regular season games in the NFL.
October 3rd, 2013 at 1:08 PM ^
My observations lead me to believe that about 50% of the teams that play come out victorious.
October 3rd, 2013 at 5:14 PM ^
Source?
October 4th, 2013 at 12:58 AM ^
2 Teams enter, one team wins. 1/2 == .500 == 50%
October 3rd, 2013 at 12:16 PM ^
I was thinking the exact same thing. He's on track for the best season ever by a quarterback, I wouldn't even be surprised if he fights through and doesn't have a midseason slump, but regular season is just a dress rehearsal. Playoffs are a whole different animal. Guaranteed things will be different, postseason, they always are. I just wonder how different.
October 3rd, 2013 at 12:18 PM ^
He's got a ring. Before that people said "well he needs a ring to be validated." Now he's got one and people still don't consider him validated. Hell with that - he's one of the top five QBs of all time.
October 3rd, 2013 at 1:08 PM ^
I think he was validated until his little brother passed him.
October 3rd, 2013 at 11:13 AM ^
so this post wouldn't be OT
October 3rd, 2013 at 11:25 AM ^
The best regular season QB in NFL history is having another regular season for the ages
October 3rd, 2013 at 11:28 AM ^
The fact that nobody is talking about PEDs is baffling
October 3rd, 2013 at 11:35 AM ^
How would PEDs help you read defenses and make good decisions and super-accurate throws?
October 3rd, 2013 at 11:37 AM ^
STOP IT! It's a known fact that PEDs are only used by baseball players and no one else. The fact that they don't test for them in certain other leagues.....like the NBA for example....is only further evidence that they just dont exist anyplace else. Because if the players DID use them we'd somehow have visual evidence of that now wouldnt we?
Players just happened to be a whole lot skinnier "back in the day". Probably just better nutrition and weight lifting programs.......
October 3rd, 2013 at 12:31 PM ^
The clearest evidence that PEDS are a serious issue in the NBA is the fact that nobody ever gets caught using.
And that is not a joke. If effective testing existed, there would be the occasional PED suspension, because every sport is going to have guys trying to use.
That almost nobody has been caught suggests that tests are easy to evade. And if they're easy to evade, players will use them. And other players will use to keep up.
October 3rd, 2013 at 1:15 PM ^
Did you know NBA players can only be drug tested 4 times in a season? If you've already been tested 4 times, why the hell WOULDNT you juice the rest of the year?
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8904906/daring-ask-ped-question
"NBA players get tested up to four times during the course of a season. The fourth time can happen at any point from October to June, but once it happens, that's it. So if your fourth test occurs after your 71st game, you're clear the rest of the way. It's a running joke within NBA circles, something of a get-out-of-jail-free card: Once you pee in that fourth cup, you're good to go. Put whatever you want into your body. Feel like smoking enough weed to make Harold and Kumar blush? Knock yourself out. Feel like replacing your blood with cleaner blood so you have more endurance for the playoffs? Knock yourself out. Feel like starting a testosterone cycle because you might have to play 25 grueling playoff games over the next 10 weeks? Knock yourself out. Remember how competitive these guys are. What would they do for an edge? How far would they go? And why are we giving them the choice?"
October 3rd, 2013 at 12:55 PM ^
the 25 years between photos...
October 3rd, 2013 at 11:53 AM ^
You don't throw 16 TDs and 0 picks because you have a stronger arm
October 3rd, 2013 at 12:05 PM ^
Can't the same be said for baseball? "How can PEDs help you eye a curveball or a fastball." I'm not buying any of your position arguments. A PED will give you an edge over the field if nobody else is using them. Period.
In 2007 the Cowboys QB coach Wade Wilson was suspended and fined for purchasing HGH. Was he buying this for the Cowboys linemen?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3019472
The fact is we have a 37 year old putting up numbers we have never seen before off a recent injury that many were predicting would render him a shadow of his former self. If you're not at least skeptical you haven't been following the trend in sports too closely lately.
October 3rd, 2013 at 1:30 PM ^
...but my understanding is that the injury (pinched C8 nerve in the neck, similar to a car crash whiplash injury) is completely correctable, if the surgery works. It was a dice roll; he won.
October 3rd, 2013 at 6:45 PM ^
Yes, it can be said about baseball as well.
That's mostly because PEDs don't really impact a players performance in baseball.
The only people who actually think taking PEDs help improve performance are simply ignorant.
October 3rd, 2013 at 9:59 PM ^
For the record: I love Michigan athletics and have a deep emotional attachment to this team.
I'm also a 2 decade cycling fan, and from enjoying a sport that has put in true doping controls I can't help but be skeptical when I see these sort of out of character/ human body performances.
I would love to be wrong. But I also was more than once. And with reason.
I don't think Peyton or many/ all NFL types are clean.
This is not a Lance comment.
Pick your heroes carefully and question these performances
October 3rd, 2013 at 12:18 PM ^
I don't think Peyton is using, but PEDs sure do help with recovery, particularly from injuries. Also endurance. And, of course, strength. PEDs are very useful for all positions.
October 3rd, 2013 at 12:53 PM ^
A known side effect of PED's is the size of your mellon.
No, wait, He's always had a huge dome.
Not much surprises me anymore in professional sports, but Manning using PED's would.
October 3rd, 2013 at 3:26 PM ^
What do you think?