Humen

August 7th, 2013 at 5:04 PM ^

I'm not sure what you read, but they are not "cleared" of violations. The schools claim that they are cleared of violations after talking with the respective athletes. It does not seem like a thorough investigation has been launched, which would provide sufficient evidence to clear them of any wrongdoing (I'm not sure that such an investigation is really needed, but I think you're making a gross oversimplification). 

Imagine the following scenario: 

Judge: Did you do it?

Bank Robber: Nope.

Judge: Cleared!

That's what happened. 

Brandon_L

August 8th, 2013 at 9:06 AM ^

Schools have found no wrong doing. So I read correctly. Just a few miscelaneous autographs from big ten media days for Braxton is what was confirmed apparenty. I doubt the NCaa will stick their nose in any further with either school. To many high Profile guys being targeted.

dennisblundon

August 7th, 2013 at 5:05 PM ^

Nothing will come of this even with Manziel. The NCAA will be an even bigger bitch about enforcing its rules on this one with the O'Bannon case going on. If a kid can make a buck on his own signature, I say good for him/her.

keep_em_honest

August 7th, 2013 at 5:14 PM ^

It was stupid for the media to even bring this up anyway.  Star players sign autographs all the time.  A few are bound to end up on ebay.  Now, there is a videotape of Manziel signing hundreds of items for a broker...so it's pretty obvious he got paid for it.  Nobody is going to do that for free.

So now I'm sure players will decline giving autographs for true fans out of the fear they end up on ebay.

GoWings2008

August 8th, 2013 at 9:54 AM ^

First, signing autographs.  Yes, lots of star players sign them, there's no rule against it.

Second, getting paid for it.  Most are not going to do it for free, but with regards to a college player, it is agaist the rules.  He can't get paid for it.  Whether that's right or wrong, morally or realistically, that's another debate.  But at the moment, he can't get paid.

Finally, if star player signs an autograph and does not get paid for it and the item ends up on ebay for any amount of money, the player can't get in trouble for that.  Not one bit. 

You're mixing apples and oranges with your logic.  Maybe even a banana in there, too.  Soon we'll have a nice fruit salad.

LB

August 7th, 2013 at 5:31 PM ^

for signing autographs? How about proof that Lewan did, for example. As far as I am concerned, this is just so much bs.

If I'm a college coach, autographs are going to become much harder to come by.

I still can't help but wonder why more people are not questioning the motivation of the bottom-feeder that brought it up.

willywill9

August 7th, 2013 at 5:48 PM ^

Schools: "Hey your autograph is out there... was money formally exchanged or sent to a bank account tied to your name?"

Player: "No he gave me straight cas......"

Schools: "AHHHHHHHHHHHHH say no more.  we're good."

LB

August 7th, 2013 at 6:05 PM ^

http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/other-stars-may-be-caught-johnny-footballs-mess#comment-2120242

The schools, leagues and the NCAA have encouraged athletes to sign at events for years. Are you telling me you can tell a free autograph from any other autograph?

Just two weeks ago at the Big Ten Media Days Kickoff Luncheon, they had about an hour before the actual event where each team had a booth with the players/coach and attending fans could line up to meet/talk/get autographs from them. It was a cool way to meet some of the players and get a quick autograph and also be in the same room with player representatives and coaches of all of the other Big Ten teams. It was hard not to notice a pair of guys who clearly weren't fans of any of the schools, but were rather shamelessly lugging around 3 or 4 large duffel bags filled with gear from different Big Ten teams and collecting autographs. It was apparent they were pro's at this with their system they had set up and in a packed hotel lobby they weren't concerned with how many kids/fans they were bumping into with their large bags.

charblue.

August 8th, 2013 at 12:54 PM ^

at Michigan Stadium has always occurred. And it will continue. I have a Charles Woodson Heisman card signed by him shortly after he won the award. I didn't even present the card to him, a friend with access did. 

I have Tom Brady's signature in a book about the 1997 championship season along with dozens of other signatures. I have Bo's actual signature on a book he wrote. Of those, Bo was the only one compensated for his signature because he signed a book ghost written in his name. 

Woodson was a national celebrity after he won the award. Brady was an afterthought and 6th round draft pick. 

Those three signatures might be worth something  now because of their individual achievements. 

Unless the NCAA can prove that a player specifically violated a non-compensation rule, it cannot challenge the profitability off his signature, ie, an item found autographed by Taylor Lewan on eBay, and claim that he benefitted from the sale of that item. You'd have to document the signing occurrence by a witness who could testify about the compensation. 

Heck kids sign balls for other kids at the Little League World Series, and not even the umpires get paid to work those games. I doubt anyone would want an umpire's signature. But they do ask middle school kids for them. 

charblue.

August 8th, 2013 at 1:23 PM ^

he was interviewed by the Charlotte Observer in a report  today about his NCAA tweets that seemed to hold the NCAA up to ridicule about its hypocritical position and false denial  that as an organization it doesn't benefit from the sale of products with the likeness or or representative images of college players of the member schools it regulates. 

Bilas, who is an ESPN college basketball commentator, told the newspaper that he went to the NCAA web site and checked out player names to see if their uniform jersey numbers came up after he was directed there by a post that seemed to contain a photo reference to this occurrence. And he didn't realize that you could look up a player's name and get their corresponding jersey number, until he did so after punching in Johnny Manziel's name, Jadevon Clowney, AJ McCarron along with Noell Norbert.

What gave rise to the controversy, he said, isn't the fact that the NCAA sells jerseys of popular college players, but whoever runs the NCAA web site shut down the search capability after Bilas tweet to his some 450,000 followers. 

Bilas said he has no qualms with the NCAA profiting from this, what he challenges  is the organization's unjustifiable position agaianst the revenue drivers, the players. Everyone else in the college game is getting paid at market rate, execept those most responsible for the marketing. And he thinks athletes should be able to profit from their activities in any way they can without restriction. 

He contends, and I agree, that the only reason the NCAA has been able to prevent this issue from being previously overturned is because the courts have continually deferred their rulings in favor of the argument that college is an educational pursuit and sportsis a part of that, and therefore players are amateurs not professionals. 

Ulitmately, he said, the NCAA is trying to defend the impossible, justify the unjustifiable, even to the point of lying about it in court papers in the O'Bannon case, claiming the NCAA doesn't benefit from the sale of products specific to player images and their likenesses without their consent. 

Chork

August 8th, 2013 at 2:17 PM ^

We can get a nice Devin Gardner signed Mini Helmen here...

http://www.amazon.com/GARDNER-Signed-MICHIGAN-WOLVERINES-HELMET/dp/B007…

Or a Taylor Lewan autographed Helmet here...

http://www.amazon.com/Taylor-Michigan-Lights-Signed-Football/dp/B00A6RK…

or a Shane Morris autographed football pylon here...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Michigan-SHANE-MORRIS-Signed-Autographed-Footba…

or a Devin Funchess autographed mini helmet here...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Michigan-Wolverines-DEVIN-FUNCHESS-signed-Mini-…

I could go on and on, so we should make sure to check the closets first...