OT: Refs sucking it up
September 19th, 2009 at 5:05 PM ^
That pulled TD was ridiculous. How could the replay official miss that?
September 19th, 2009 at 5:15 PM ^
Maybe he's blind. That is the only way I can see them missing it...
September 19th, 2009 at 5:07 PM ^
the first late hit was legit, but that TD/not actually a TD because the refs are on shrooms call was really bad. Like worse than the phantom Cissoko PI bad.
Worst part is that now the domers will have even more reason to complain about Big 10 refs.
September 19th, 2009 at 5:14 PM ^
I don't know, State's DB had his arm in there on Floyd's TD and actually ripped the ball out once they hit the ground (NBC refused to let the replay run past the point where Floyd's back hit the ground and the commentators never mentioned the fact that Floyd didn't have the ball when the play was over). At least with that call, I knew the ref's rationale. The was no explanation for Cissoko call.
September 19th, 2009 at 5:16 PM ^
I saw that as well, but it's irrelevant. As you said, he "ripped the ball out once they hit the ground". At that point it's too late. There is no logical rationale there. No excuse for that horrible call.
September 19th, 2009 at 5:20 PM ^
Right, I get that...but I think the question is "is it considered possession if the DB has his hand in there with the ball and eventually (via a continuous motion) dislodges the ball?"
September 19th, 2009 at 5:27 PM ^
It is possession. He had the ball, both feet in, and the defender did not share possession. Refs either on crack or it was intentional. Prlly the first.
September 19th, 2009 at 5:19 PM ^
But Floyd took two steps out of bounds before the DB got to the ball.... bizarre.
September 19th, 2009 at 5:23 PM ^
I don't think it's legit because he tackled Nichol inbounds, and didn't really drag him down. He tugged on his jersey a little bit, but it was a weak call. Unfortunate that Mike Floyd got injured, and got raped by the refs.
September 19th, 2009 at 5:07 PM ^
apparently ND just had 14 players on defense.
September 19th, 2009 at 5:11 PM ^
talk about a home field advantage...
September 19th, 2009 at 5:08 PM ^
Personal fouls, maybe. That Floyd TD call was awful. This is B11 payback. Period.
September 19th, 2009 at 5:14 PM ^
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September 19th, 2009 at 5:12 PM ^
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September 19th, 2009 at 5:12 PM ^
That Floyd overturn was probably the worst call I've ever seen in a football game. Hilarious.
September 19th, 2009 at 5:13 PM ^
MSU is fired up and playing well. Looks like Floyd is hurt.
Lose this one, and Charlie might not make it to Monday.
September 19th, 2009 at 5:13 PM ^
If it is payback, that's just about as unprofessional as you can get.
September 19th, 2009 at 5:36 PM ^
"If it is payback, that's just about as unprofessional as you can get."
I wondered about this when Charlie started complaining - the rationale for calling out refs in public is to make a fake consensus that the refs robbed you, that they will be concerned about a reputation, and try to give you a better shake next time. But it could easily backfire - when a fat guy tells the press you are incompetent, are you more or less likely to show said fat guy that _you_ are the boss of the game and have power over him?
In any case, I don't think these refs have it in for Charlie - I think they just commit a lot of penalties and are playing sloppy, the refs are weak to begin with and are unlikely to give you a benefit of the doubt call on a play like that when you can't show you can execute with precision. Or (also likely) they just plain suck.