Video of LSU RB Jeremy Hill Sucker Punch Released
Came across this video of LSU RB Jeremy Hill teeing off on a defenseless drunk student at LSU. He seems like a pretty good candidate for Aaron Hernandez 2.0. His sentence for the sucker punch: $350 fine, 50 hours community service, and an apology note. It also seems like he may or may not have raped a 14 year old whie in high school... If I was a student at LSU I would be wearing hockey equipment when I went out at night. Link?
What's this crap
Hey daddy-o, Son's of Cream are not crap. Ever heard of Dick Heckstall-Smith, the Saxaphonist?
What does it have to do with LSU's RB getting caught sucker punching someone?
Not sure what LSU's RB getting caught sucker punching someone has to do with MGoBlog, so that's kind of my point.
with basketball and hockey sprinkled in. We have a forum where we mostly talk about Michigan stuff but sometimes talk about other relevant stuff like other college football items outside of Michigan football. That's what it has to do with MGoBlog
I don't know why people are getting whinier and whinier about OT posts. We're only a few dumb posters away from questioning "Does Devin Gardner being a counselor at Peyton Manning's football camp REEAAALLLLY have to be on MGoBlog? I mean it didn't even happen in Ann Arbor"
Dude, this is the second post to feature voyeuristic violence today that has nothing to do with Michigan athletics. I don't get why people want to see some guy get sucker punched or some poor fool geting gored in the nads on MGoBlog. Not sure how you think this is at all like a post about Deving Gardner hanging with Peyton Manning at a football camp.
It's a college football related post during the offseason. Sure, this doesn't have anything directly to do with Michigan, but I think it is interesting that someone who plays for a guy who has ties to our university and had a realistic shot to be our head coach at least once during the last 6 or so years is in trouble for some violent incident (which is also not his first).
Also: ESS EEE SEE!!
Also, also: I guess I must have missed the second post you are referring to about groin injury.
I get all that, just not sure why we need to see footage of the sucker punch itself. The other post I was referencing is this http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/ot-great-pic-today-pamplona
Unless you've got a Hello post or some new Swag Mattison for me, I will gladly accept this topic since it's fairly relevant to college football at large. It has basically nothing to do with MGoBlog except that a lot of us here find decent topics about other teams to be interesting during the long boring summers of the offseason
This is great news.
I don't understand why the second guy wasn't charged with attempted murder, a la Ausar Walcott. That was a violent, dangerous, gratuitous, blind-side punch to a completely overmatched victim.
Why not Jeremy Hill as well?
EDIT: Answer appears to be because the extent of damage caused matters. I don't think this guy is in critical condition. Not that I think that's morally all that relevant, but it is what it is.
And it's easy to imagine from the video that the guy had just picked himself up from a fight he'd actually been a part of and was lumbering towards whoever had knocked him down the first time. So I can imagine the following reason not to charge Hill with attempted murder: you can see his actions as helping to finish a willingly entered fight. It's still clearly criminal, IMO, but I don't wonder why he wasn't charged with attempted murder. (I could be convinced that I should wonder about that, but I haven't been yet.)
The second guy's actions are on a whole different level of heinous violence.
It looks like the video was filmed through two fence pickets. Why don't people turn their phones sideways?
Although I think if you're anyone and you sucker punch someone, you're a bitch. It pisses me off when someone blindsides some defenseless person then starts acting like hot shit.
I don't know what's more embarassing... Sucker punching someone, or being 6'2 235 and barely making the kid wobble with a sucker punch.
If you're a divison 1 running back, and you get a shot at a full wind-up sucker punch, and the guy only just wobbles, aren't you then the loser? I mean, you spend all that time in the weight room and can't knock a guy down with a sucker punch? That's probably why he doesn't get in real fights, I imagine it wouldn't go well (unless he had his bros there to throw a few sucker punches)
Less Morals is from the Jim Tressel school of let the boys be boys.
This is so wrong on so many levels.
God, that video just pisses me off to no end. Besides the assulting a defenseless person angle, the fact that they all act like they're sooo super awesome for sucker punching a kid who's not even looking is just the worst. No person will ever have my respect for thinking anything other than shame for a sucker punch.
Is this wrong that I think this should be added to his punishment?
The judge is about to sentence Jeremy Hill "The verdict is in. You have been sentenced to...."
And Jeremy Hill gets sucker punched by Mike Tyson from behind and the judge and Tyson dance around the middle of the court room high-fiving eachother.
So basically he has to do a week of light work for an action that could have killed/permanently injured someone? What a damn joke.
What a fuckin chump. This is how a stupid situation goes from bad to worse. If the kid who gets sucker punched is leagally carrying a gun he has every right to defend himself, whats the story then?
Um... have you been in a hole these last few weeks?
Exactly
Why, exactly, should we compare these thugs to a kid who got murdered while walking home, oh wise race-baiting one?
[NB: this is a heavily edited version of a much more appropriate response.]
He was 28, and he created a situation in which a single minor might (and, he claims, did) attack him.
Discussion of the rest is for other fora.
Seems right, but Louisiana is also pretty gun-friendly. For example, if the guy just hopped into his car, he would have much more latitude to use his gun to protect himself and his car. [Note: I'm not a Louisiana lawyer, but I've copied and pasted the below from http://www.uslawshield.com/louisiana/florida-gun-law/ for reference.]
Justified Use of Force and Deadly Force:
In Louisiana a person is allowed to use force or violence against another for the purposes of preventing a forcible offense against the person or property in the person’s possession. This justification does not apply if the use of force or violence results in death. Use of force or violence that results in death is only allowed in the following situations:
- when committed in self-defense by one who reasonably believes that he is in imminent danger or losing his life or receiving great bodily harm.
- when committed for the purpose of preventing a violent or forcible felony involving danger to life or great bodily harm.
- when committed by the occupant of a dwelling, place of business or motor vehicle, against a person who is reasonably believed to be using force to unlawfully gain entry. Louisiana law creates a presumption that a person is justified in using deadly force in the protection of themselves if the perpetrator is unlawfully, forcibly entering their occupied dwelling, place of business or motor vehicle. Louisiana law also allows a person to defend a third-party if the third-party would have been justified in defending themselves. Also, a person is under no duty to retreat from their dwelling, place of business or motor vehicle. It does not appear that a person could use deadly force in the protection of property alone, where the person did not feel that there was a reasonable threat of death or great bodily harm.
Well, if he were to get hit again once he hit the pavement he could lose his life. How can you say that someone else does or does not feel in danger? Granted, dude was wasted so his perception is way off. But if he got up and told them to knock it off, and they came at him again... all bets would be off no?
It depends on the circumstances. If you're greatly overmatched physically and your attacker had repeatedly punched you, you could absolutely reasonably fear death or serious bodily harm. People have made successful self-defense cases on these facts before.
That is inaccurate.
I was just stating the guy had a pretty good reason to feel endangered if you ask me. Just a bad situation
Why did you include the "or at risk of serious harm" in a parenthetical? It's just as important to the standard as believing that one's life is in danger.
Some comments from Tiger Droppings. It's a shame that loyalty to a team can so easily destroy any sense of deceny.
looks like he was just defending his friend who was getting attacked
Sucker punch but not as bad as I thought. The dude got right back up.
Looks like the guy was already in a fight. Hill runs in front of him and punches him. Main sucker punch was the second guy. The "decking him from behind" reports were a big over exageration.
I'm sure way worst happens every weekend in college bars.
Couple things; 1. wasnt a sucker punch he was in front of the guy. 2. The celebration was not nearly as bad as lead to believe
It's just a 30 second clip and it looks like there was more going down before Hill's punch
I tried telling y'all the video wasn't bad
If you start the fight, you deserve to get wht you get.
So let me get this straight....the guy who is outside of a bar drunk and clearly trying to egg on more of a fight is the victim?
White and blacks were cheering when the guy got hit and knocked down. What does that tell you?
Theres two sides to every story and theres a 30 second clip.
I can't believe charges were files for such a pussy arse fight.
this is so stupid... this happens EVERY NIGHT at the bars...
Forgive my ignorance. What is the St. Patricks Day Nerd Massacre?