OT: Red Wings sign Miller and Kindl to multi year deals/NHL Draft Open Thread
The Red Wings have signed Drew Miller to a 3 year deal and Jakub Kindl to a 4 year contract.
http://redwings.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=675641&navid=DL|DET|home
That being said, Detroit needs to make some moves this offseason. Either with trades or free agency. I'd love to see them get Lecavieler for a value and Letang they can break the bank on. Hell if they could somehow get into the too 10 of this years draft through trades I'd deal Filpulla and Quincey for a too flight forward (not sure how realistic that is with Fil being a free agent)
Letang is about to sign with Pittburgh.
Letang resigned this morning. 7.2 million over eight years.
Completely unrealistic. You can't deal a free agent, I don't Quincy is really a hot commidity on the trade market, and not many teams would part with a top forward or top 10 pick for Fil and Quincy even if we could trade them both. I wouldn't say Kindl really has all that much potential IMO. He's already 26 years old. I think he will be a solid 3rd pairing Dman and maybe move to a second pairing guy but I don't see him becoming more than a pretty average defenseman.
The Wings have a solid young core. I'd rather see them sign a quality player(Clarkston/Horton) that doesn't completely break the bank than go for an all-star like Lecavalier.
Not saying they will, but they could trade Filppula. He's not a free agent until July 5th, and if the wings have no hope in signing him, they can trade his negotiating rights to someone who is actually willing to offer him what he wants. That is, if there's a team willing to take that risk.
Filppula isn't a free agent yet, they still own his rights until the free agency period starts. Now getting another team to trade for him is another story, but it has already been done a few times this year.
Yep, I was just going to say this. They can trade his rights to another team, however that usually results in nothing more than a late round pick. Definitely not a top 10 pick even with Quincey because if he's dealt to a team, there's no guarantee he'll sign with that team.
Rumors are the Wings are talking about trading for Bobby Ryan. I'd love to see that more than Vinny. They need a winger much more than they need a center. If they still want a center, they should go after Weiss.
I think those rumors regarding Bobby Ryan was just reddit posters making shit up, based off the Draft workers testing the Draft Board before the actual event
Anyone in the NHL would LOVE to have Lecavelier, he would be a perfect signing for the Wings. Also, Horton will get a lot of money this offseason. He's a big body that can score quite a bit. Hell, I'd love for the Wings to get both those guys, but I think Lecavelier is more realistic.
I'd take Vinny on the cheap. He's skilled enough to play on the wing.
The UFA's this year are horrible. Lecavalier, Horton, and Bickell are about the only ones I'd want the Wings to go after. CBS has Filppula as the #4 overall UFA. 4th overall?! Yeah, that's bad. Brunner is 11. Soon to be 36 year old Iginla is #2. Sorry, but this free agent pool is horrible.
CapGeek has the deals at 2.4M per year for Kindl and 1.35M per year for Miller. Definitely solid signings.
I'm not sold on Miller; he's decent on the PK but isn't as good a 5-on-5 defensive forward as you'd want out of your back line players. I think the Wings could do better on the open market for the price.
Then get rid of Bertuzzi and Samuelsson. I can't believe they actually thought bringing back Samuelsson was a good idea and at $3 mil/year to boot. Nyquist can easily fill what Samuelsson was (or wasn't) doing every night.
Tampa Bay, by buying out Vinny Lecavalier's contract, have provided the Red Wings with an opportunity most didn't think would be around this summer. Lacavalier has expressed interest in signing with the Wings, as he grew up rooting for the Wings. I would love to see us make an effort at signing him, as he is a proven goal-scorer that the Wings desperately need. It's no Zach Parise from last summer, but it might be a better fit when all is said and done.
Here is what I'd like to see happen on the current roster:
- If Detroit can resign Filpulla for $4m per year then I'd do it, otherwise I'd cut our losses and trade his rights if possible.
- I'd cut the ties with Cleary because he is aging and I think Detroit can use their younger guys in similar roles
- Resign Brunner. He's a good player that I think will only get better in the coming years and as his comfort level increases in the NHL.
- Cut ties with Ian White. The young defenseman can take his role over.
Free agents I'd love to see Detroit go after:
Centers:
- Vinny Lecavalier. He's slowing down, but he would be a solid 2nd liner that still has world class skill. Big body player that could be very useful on the PP. If Detroit could sign him for $4 or $5 million per year I'd take a chance on him.
- David Steckel. Big body at 6 ft 6 in. Great centerman that is awesome on faceoffs. Could probably get him for $2m per year.
- Stephen Weiss. Has had some very good offensive years in Florida. Was hurt for the majority of this past year, but years previous he averaged around 50 points per year. He's also only 30 years old.
Wingers:
- Viktor Stalberg, relatively young and fast left winger. He doesn't use his size like he should, but I think he'd fit well on Detroit and all of the Swedes on the roster.
- Bryan Bickell. Big body and his stock really rose during this years Stanley Cup playoffs. He's only making around $600k this year, but I think Detroit would need to offer around $2 million. He'd be a great 3rd/4th liner that would give Detroit some more grit and toughness in the trenches.
- Nathan Horton. Had some injury issues this playoffs, but he is a good power forward that can really put the puck in the back of the net. He'd actually be on the top of my list if I was Ken Holland.
- Ryan Jones. You might remember him from those really good Miami teams. I've always liked his size and skill and think he would be a good fit for Detroits 3rd line. He needs a change of scenary and Detroit could be that place where he really puts it all together.
Defenseman:
- Chris Summers. Just, because, ya know. I think it would be cool if he came back home.
- Douglas Murray. Big body Swede. Could fit well in Detroit with the roster make up, but I think Detroit wants to let their young D play...as they should. My biggest issue with Murray is he's on the slow side and he doesn't bring much, if any, offense.
**I think Detroit should keep their Defense status quo unless they can make a trade or get someone for value.
Bickell has said that he will take a pay cut to stay in Chicago. With Dave Bolland being shopped to clear cap I think they will resign him.
Fil has already stated he wants $5.5M+/yr for his next contract. Honestly, that request is laughable.
Agreed. That money is for players who are perennial 50+ point scorers. He's had one good year as a Red Wing in 11-12. He had a terrible season this year and just has not lived up to his potential.
Do you think there is a team willing to pay him $5.5 mill per year in the open market? I just don't see it happening. Hell, cut ties with him and pay Lecavalier the $5.5 million a year for 2-3 years.
Completely agreed. I think Fil is in for a wake up call when he hits the FA market. I would rather have Lavavalier or attempt to make an offer for Bickell (which I believe is a pipe dream).
Bickell just resigned with the Hawks for 4m per year.
Done.
Wings are meeting with Lecavilier today supposedly.
Michigan's loaded recruiting class will have players drafted today, no doubt. Michael Downing could go as high as the 2nd round I'm hearing.
I've seen mock drafts with JT Compher sliding into the back of the first round. Downing should go 2-3. Motte maybe 3-5. Not the best Michigan draft ever, but solid.
I really think this 1st pick in the draft will be huge. If Colorado selects a centerman like MacKinnon then that opens up trade opportunities with Detroit. They will be loaded at center and will be looking to get rid of someone like Stastny. Detroit could potentially trade a young defenseman for one of their centers.
Vancouver has to be the best team in the last couple decades not to win a Cup yet. For some reason they can't seem to put it all together.
Congrats to him. He's gonna be a good one for us I think
Would've been nice to have that guy, but somehow I doubt we were ever that close
He might turn out even better than his dad. I got to see him play in London, Ontario a few times and he can play.
Compher was the 3rd college commit taken behind
- Mike McCarron. Committed to Western(!). #25 overall to Montreal
- Ian McCoshen. Committed to BC. #31 overall Florida.
Clearly if JT's name was "McCompher" he would've done better in this draft