D.Hand not impressed with OSU
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2013/6/2/4388514/da… This recruitment seems to be trending to the good guys. Hand shared that he has not talked to his favorite coach Bud Foster lately and that Michigan is his favorite staff overall.
Yeah, he definitely wouldn't start at ohio with their amazing defense. You know, the one that gave up 48 points to indiana and has been outscored 61-60 against Michigan the past two years?
So...calling a 17 year old an arrogant douche is not cool but calling half of OSU's team (consisting of 18-23 year olds) arrogant douches is...fine?
was it peppers that said on his visit to ohio that Urbs told him that he would personally coach him?? so ohio fans, just shut the fuck up.
Yep, Jabrill Peppers - the kid whose goal is to be the second primarily-defensive player to ever win the Heisman *as a freshman* - is worried that he just wouldn't get playing time outside the cozy confines of the Glick fieldhouse. He's just lacking a bit of confidence, and Urbz don't have time for that shit.
Maybe by "too intense" Hand meant that Meyer was laying the recruiting pressure and spin on too thick and it has nothing to do with being competitive on the field. I get the impression that Hand would appreciate intense teachers, but not intense salesmen.
that Hand is a pretty quiet guy who's difficult to get a lot of info out of. I got the impression that he's not all that active in social media and doesn't spend much time talking about recruiting. If that's the case, I could easily see how a hard-sell approach might turn him off.
he can't take intense football. Hand can chill.
I think that is more plausible than the "intense" being related to how Urban runs his team. That is what I was thinking, in fact, when I heard the "too intense" thing but everyone else thought it meant the way he runs practices etc. so I didn't mention it. I think you're correct.
Wait... wait... wait. Strippers DON'T have hearts of gold? WHAT?!
Put the knife down, Craig.
Kenny fuckin' Powers (it is)
Didn't want to start a new thread on this because it is just a rumor on twitter. If this does come to pass, he would become Lawrence Marshall's teammate. From Cass Tech's Defensive Coordinator:
jermain crowell @JermainCrowell
McDowell to Southfield ? Newest gossip in the city! I wonder how true.
I think Hoke has hit upon the tactic of brutally honest recruting at just the right time here. In the past, brutally honest recruiting hurt you, because other coaches just lied to kids and snowballed them with promises of grandeur, and that definitely worked on some kids, Before the popularity of social media, kids in a recruting class didn't really talk to each other, so they weren't sharing this stuff with each other (ot at least not much) and they couldn't put it together that at some programs the coaches were clearly makinig promises that couldn't be kept.
In today's world, where kids being recruited are constantly in communication, being brutally honest with them is suddenly not a bad thing, but a critical one. No longer are you scaring them away by telling them "we won't promise you any playing time". No, now when they check in with everyone else being recruited and find out that everyone is getting the same story they realize the coaching staff is on the up-and-up. You win your spot on the field through hard work and being the best guy in practice. And you know that once you are on the team, the coaching staff isn't promising YOUR spot on the field to some highly rated recruit just to get him to sign.
I really think lying to recruits probably used to work better, but in today's connected world, I think Hoke's completely open & honest style with no promises or guarantees for any recruit, no matter how good you might be, has really struck a chord with recruits.
To be fair, I'm sure this is just a continuation of the way Michigan has recruited for a long time under a lot of coaches, but Hoke seems to be even more adamant about it than others have been.
From the article:
"But my favorite coaching staff is Michigan," Hand said. "With Michigan, what you see if what you get. It's professional. With some, you feel like when you get to college it might, change, but with Michigan, everyone says they're straight.
I am reminded of Jason Whitlock's article back on Feb 6 of 2011, just as Hoke was hired:
He [Hoke] has an uncanny ability to get kids to believe in him and believe in themselves. He doesn’t do it with smooth words. He’s not smooth. He does it by being the same genuine person day after day
And:
He connects. The kids hang on his words, respond to his tough love and accept his discipline.
When I read Whitlock's article way back then I was hopeful but guarded in my optimism. Since then there's not been a thing I've seen that makes me question the sincerity or integrity of Coach Hoke. Not a thing.
The testimonies of recruits confirming Hoke's genuine nature are stacking. The word is out. We won't always get the recruit ... but we'll be in the hunt for them.
it's also palpable.
I think the word you are looking for is "palpable".
then what Hoke appears to be building is very palatable. If not intoxicating.
Honeslty Don...you crack me up. I wish we could give you more of a +5 for this comment. Nice one!
off the field with Fitz's helmet up there too.
Hoke's finest moment at UM thus far IMO.
Huge play in the game against UM's fiercest rival and a game you know Hoke was absolutely dying to win. That play could have cost UM the game but Hoke didn't explode and jump in Hags face like about 90% of football coaches in the game today would have done. I was never more sure that Hoke was the right fit for UM than I was at that moment.
It is free right now until the start of 2014 and you can cancel it on the 31st if you want to. It's really awesome, at least the Michigan site is. Loving it so far.
Just do it. If your wife is going to get pissed over 8 dollars, you've got bigger problems than the fight that'll cause anyway.
Full disclosure: when we first got the joint account, I withdrew a bunch of cash from an ATM in a strip club just to annoy my wife. It was just as funny as I'd anticipated. To this day, making ridiculous (but small) purchases from the joint account is one of my favorite things to do.
I hope you sent the wife a pic of the twenties you stuffed in the dancer's G-string.
I would burn for that. I would be a seventy year old man (in some years) and still hearing about "your whores"...
Maybe Hand like Marshall was given the full court press by Urban, basically telling him we have a spot for you now, but if you don't commit we won't hold it for you. Marshall committed to ohio, but then backed out. Maybe Hand didn't like being given what is essentially an ultimatum.
"But my favorite coaching staff is Michigan," Hand said. "With Michigan, what you see if what you get. It's professional. With some, you feel like when you get to college it might, change, but with Michigan, everyone says they're straight."
Now what does that sound like...
"Real recognize real," Peppers said matter-of-factly. "That's the shortest and sweetest way you can say it. Real recognize real."
I like how that worked out for us last time.
Meyer out recruited Hoke in his first year at Ohio so I'm not sure how overrated he is.
Everyone keeps bringing that up but no one seems to mention how insanely lucky Meyer was when the whole JoePa/Sandusky thing broke and OSU became the de facto landing spot for all the PSU elite recruits (in particular, Armani Reeves, Camren Williams, and Noah Spence). Without that, I think Meyer was on track to finish behind Hoke.
Meyer is a great recruiter. I don't want to be like delusional Buckeye fans who can't admit that Hoke is just as good of a recruiter for the players that every team wants, including Ohio State,
I'm not saying that Meyer isn't a great recruiter, but it just irritates me that everyone (especially OSU fans) act like it was some legendary recruiting ability that let their 2012 class overtake ours at the eleventh hour, rather than a historic implosion of PSU's class.
How do you define outrecruited? Are you a star gazer?
Recruiting rankings mean nothing. Proceed with caution. These are the same rankings that told me Kevin Grady was going to be the all-time leading rusher in Michigan history. And that Cullen Christian and Demar Dorsey would be part of the tandem here called No Fly Zone.
The only ones these sites are even consistent with are top-10 ranked players. Stars are pretty to look at and get the fans going, but the coaches know what they are doing.
You successfully mentioned three of our biggest failures when it comes to "highly ranked" recruits.
Stars matter. Yes, some highly ranked kids flop. Yes, we have had a few of those kids. But at the end of the day, the % of five stars that make it to the NFL is much, much higher than three stars.
All that being said, no one in their right mind can say "URBZ GOT THE BETTER CLASS" or "HOKE WON" with regards to that recruiting class - still way too early to tell.