PSU about to get blasted again by SI investigative report
SI is publishing an investigative report into the medical care for athletics in a story titled "Do Athletics Still Have Too Much Power at Penn State." Still unclear what is in the report, but based on the spin coming from PSU already, it doesn't look good.
http://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefootball/index.ssf/2013/05/sports_illustrated_investigati.html
EDIT: SI has released a summary of their report and it is pretty damning of the AD David Joyner and head coach Bill O'Brien.
Link: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20130515/penn-state-athletics-power/
Damn don't u think they've suffered enough
I used to hate them somehow I feel bad for them
to now feel bad for them. I, however, don't. For the sake of "football uber alles", they hid a pedophile. Well, not really hid him. Gave him an office and let him continue "helping" kids without telling anyone. Gross. I give the new people props for now going forward, but don't feel bad for anyone there.
Fuck those Pedo loving Joe Pa supporters. It is disgusting that people still hail Joe Pa.
I think there is some room to sympathize with some members of the PSU community. Yes, there were a few high level people who did some unforgivable acts, but 99.9% of the PSU community is no different than you or me. They went to a respected university, studied hard, got a degree, cheered for the team on Saturdays, donated money so that others after them could have the same experience, and promoted the positive values of a higher education institution. Now all thier hard work has been destroyed because the people trusted to act in good faith on behalf of the school ended up being terible people.
Although most of that community played no role in the transgressions, do you remember the attitude of that community after this all came out? It was disgusting. Everyone defended Paterno and (nearly) everyone else involved. No one wanted to admit to wrongdoing.
So, fuck 'em. They deserve whatever they get.
Amen brother.
Their complete almost en masse denial that anyone (outside of Sandusky) did ANYTHING wrong coupled with their refusal to accept saintly JoePa's removal from deity status ripped any shrad of compassion I had for the fan base away. You want sympathy for how that big mean ol media is treating your school? Try ackowledging there was a HUGE problem that got buried by powerful men with an agenda at your school and then reach out to the victims to see if they need any help.
Until then.....FUCK PSU.
What? How the F*** can you feel bad for a culture that covered up child molestation to protect the program?
Freaking disgusting!!!!! They should have gotten a 3 year death penalty, this isnt paying players or recruiting violations, this is PSU providing a forum for child sex slavery.
Bleep every one of them
They still worship Joe Pa who hid a pedophile that was raping children. Please plow through that school. Get them out of the Big Ten!
So they changed doctors and there might be a decrease in the level of care ... but what does that have to do with the power of athletics at PSU? That was confusing.
This article seems to hint that the AD and several Board of Trustee members are painted in a bad light. I had been trying to abstain from speculating, but here you go: I think the Head Coach, AD, or Board of Trustees pushed to change team doctors in order to get players who may have not been medically cleared in the past back on the field sooner or to get questionable medical procedures greenlighted for players.
Here is the article talking about the AD and Board of Trustees:
As much as I want to rag on Penn State for this, it's not an uncommon practice in college football for players to be cleared when they shouldn't be. I'll leave it at, I know some people who work for a major university that has done this in the past.
Feb 2012 - Bill O'Brien brings in a long time NFL trainer to be the new head trainer. Jan 2013 - PSU hires an outside law firm to investigate complaints about the new trainer. Feb 2013 - O'Brien recommends the school replace the team doctor. Now - After reassigning the doctor as O'Brien requested, PSU is trying to make the move sound like a promotion.
Woops
I think thr point was that the administration said they were going to reign in the ADs power, yet noe Penn State football is still making it's own, questionable, decisions. I tell you what, I wouldn't want some shmuck with no medical degree giving me pills or lesions on my neck.
Without seeing the story, it's hard to know anything. But since this is the Internet, everyone should chime in emphatically about something we don't know anything about. Here's my entry: the PSU athletic dept doctors have been euthanizing football players in order to harvest their organs for profit.
The doctors are using the players to test new forms of synthetic marijuana, to sell to the Auburn football team.
Soylent Green is...people!
Damn, they are really kicking them when they are down. They tried to kill Penn State once, and they stood strong. I think all the negativity thrown Penn State's way is going to backfire on the media/NCAA when other schools start standing up for them. At least, that's what I hope happens.
but I have a gut feeling SI wasn't digging for this story. I don't think something like this gets out unless you have sources that leak the story. And based on the current infighting and lack of leadership from their Board of Trustees and president, it is not hard to believe.
PSU has brought this mess upon themselves. When the school's alumni elects Paterno apologists and lunatic fringe like Anthony Lubrano to the Board of Trustees, you reap what you sow
I don't think many schools will stand up for them since they harbored a sick o for 10 years, covered it up, and now may have pushed doctors out the door for doing their jobs. But hopefully this story is just B.S. and is a lot of axe grinding by upset people.
You say "they" but everyone involved with that is no longer at the school. The people not involved are getting the second (maybe first) worst penalty in NCAA history for something that they were never involved with. This, to me, feels like a witch hunt like the freep was doing for us.
Fuck that entire POS institution and any of their fans burying their heads in the sand. That football program shouldn't exist any longer and I hope they're driven into obscurity if not destroyed.
No offense, but I don't want Michigan in this mess.
What good does it for Michigan to stand up for them? It's none of "our" business.
...besides, we had that stupid practice gate deal go down...120 of 120 schools in the country did the same thing and no one said shit on our behalf. And again, I don't blame them, it had nothing to do with them.
We, as fans, can support PSU or anything else we want to support. But I wholeheartedly disagree with a University standing up for PSU in this matter or the previous matter. If for no other reason, we don't need the media spotlight on us for something that has nothing to do with us. If we support PSU the first time around we're being insensitive to the victims, if we support them now (according to the speculation) we're being insensitive to the student-athletes.
Don't pick fights with the media when it's not about you or something you can get a vast majority of support on. You can say ESPN sucks, they're the reason for the BCS. The majority of the country, including the President of the United States want to see a playoff. You can't say ESPN sucks, they're picking on Penn St...much of the country still has no sympathy for PSU after what happened. Is "support" and "majority opinion" the reason to stand for something you believe in? Individually? No. As a University? Sometimes.
And for the 3rd time, it has nothing to do with Michigan. It would be random. Like Michigan coming out saying they support Jason Collins...and that's something the majority of the country is behind. But why would Michigan need to comment on it?
It's early, so I don't feel like tracking down links, but I actually remember a lot of people (if not schools, officially) sticking up for Michigan during the Rodriguez investigation, including people like Urban Meyer, Jim Tressel, and Kirk Herbstreit.
That said, I don't expect, nor would want, any schools to stick up for PSU (including Michigan). Opinion around these parts seems to be swinging back in the other direction on PSU. It wasn't that long ago that kicking them out of the conference was discussed around here as a serious option.
Those are PEOPLE, not INSTITUTIONS. Did any other schools do anything resembling interceding on Michigan's behalf? Absolutely not, and that's what Mr. Yost is getting at. Schools aren't going to "stand up" for Penn State here, either.
This isn't "Practicegate" level ticky-tack crap. This is shady shit.
But you didn't say "Florida," "Ohio" and "ESPN"...you just mentioned 3 names. 3 big names, but people nonetheless. Which no offense, is exactly what I meant.
...stood up for innocent children... Oh wait.
Isn't this the point of placing teams on probation? To keep schools that have a proven track record of not playing by the rules under a microscope?
Personal Foul, Targeting a Defenseless Receiver !
It can't be worse than when they used to leave their dead out on the field.
My favorite picture ever !
to the end of time
Please make this happen...Alan Branch 2.0
I can't wait to get back to the level of talent & production that we had with guys like Branch, Woodley, Graham, etc ... we've been on a run of d-lineman that are serviceable but not great; talented underachievers and less talented overachievers. It'll be nice to have some beasts again.
"we've been on a run of d-lineman that are serviceable but not great; talented underachievers and less talented overachievers"
Yes, we have -- it extends back as far as I can remember in the modern era ... not just the past few years.
Starting from the '80s, make a list of NFL-caliber D-linemen from Michigan. Relative to other areas (say, O-line and QB) it's a pretty short list.
Branch, Woodley, and Graham were exceptions to the rule.
I'm hopeful that the Hoke area will be remembered for its standouts at that position.
Also James hall. Guys who were good on a conference level but not in nfl would be Terrence Taylor, Ron Rene's, grant bowman, off the top of my head. Might dig around for a few more, but I would agree that Michigan has had a lot more success in the nfl other places than DL.
...was a MONSTER.
Steele and Irons. You're not running on a defense with those last names.
Sam Sword
Also Huff, Swett, and Gold.
Seriously, that defense with Sword, Irons, Steele, Huff, Swett, and Gold deserves way more credit for being the defense with the most appropriate names ever.
#94 Josh Williams had a good college career and NFL career.
Was this from a previous thread? I want to make this the centerpiece of DD. Also that cropping job of Branch is supurb -- could use the png file if you have it.
Seems like this could be much ado about nothing. Bill O'Brien seems to be on the up and up, so until there's legitimate reason to grab the torches and pitchforks again, I'm going to focus on UM and the upcoming season.
Is that you?
came out with it's highest-paid public university administrators this week. At the top of the list: PSU's Graham Spanier. $2,906,721 per year. Not making this up, folks.
http://chronicle.com/article/Executive-Compensation-at/139093/#id=table
The number is inflated due to severance pay. That's not his base comp.