Jamarco Jones Decision Date Set
Hopefully we can get Bars to make up for it. I haven't watched film on Jones, but he appears to be a good recruit.
Too bad for OSU is they're going to have so many blown assignments on the line when they figure out they have two Joneses though. Suckers.
Offer list and of course 4 starzz. Offers include Arizona, Arkansas, Cal, Florida, Florida State, Michigan, MSU, Mississippi State, Ole Miss, Nebraska, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Tennessee, and Wisconsin, with several others. I'll agree he seems like a good recruit and I haven't seen any video either.
Being a top-50 national recruit might give one that impression.
That might be true, but has this really been a "problem," as you put it? The assistants that have come out of here have gone on to have great coaching careers. Schools like Michigan are usually where assistants are developed, not bought.
Not to be the turd in the punch bowl, but which assistants have gone on to great coaching careers out of Michigan in the last 10-20 years? Montgomery to Oklahoma was the only one I can think of lately that moved up. Going back to Carr, Hoke has pretty much been the only one to amount to anything, right? Wasn't one of the big criticisms of Lloyd that he never had much of a coaching tree?
Ron English. Vance Bedford is the DC at Louisville now. Loefeller is Auburn's OC now I believe.
Loeffler's at Virginia Tech now.
I'm not sure how this stacks up to other schools, but I think this list that comes off the top of my head is nice: Les Miles, Greg Mattison, Bill Sheridan, Brady Hoke, Ron English, and even Fred Jackson.
Miles and Mattison are definitely the best, but you have to go back almost 20 years for their time as assistants at Michigan which I wouldn't consider recent enough to fit in the whole developing coaches thing. Same with Vance Bedford.
Ron English I wouldn't really count as a success since he went Michigan DC -> Louisville DC -> Eastern head coach. That's a downward path in my opinion. Fred Jackson has been running backs coach for a 147 years. Not a lot of developing their either (except in outlandish superlatives -- he's still the best at that).
Scott Loeffler is good example. And Sheridan and Hoke I'll give you too. But both were Michigan assistants 10-15 years ago. And going back to the main point of paying assistant coaches, since salaries have exploded in the last 10-15 years in college football, Michigan hasn't really "developed" anyone outside of Loeffler maybe Montgomery and he was only here for two seasons and its too soon to know if he's a success story or not.
First of all, with the exception of Miles, your math is pretty far off. Second of all, we're talking about recruiting. Historically, we've done just fine with the assistants we've had. We haven't had to pay "top dollar" for assistants to come in here in order to attract top talent.
You could count Lloyd too. That's less than 20 years ago.
in the Big Ten a few years ago. Being willing to pay doesn't guarantee getting top flight coaching.
Illinois has produced some high quality front seven players in the last few years (Mercilus, Liuget, etc.), so if I were a high schooler at one of those positions, I might consider U of I. But at most other positions, I would almost certainly go somewhere else.
Imagine what Illinois could do in basketball if they could at least do a passable job in recruiting the Chicago metro area.
But, as a Wildcat alum, I can confirm this will always be a problem until they get students to come to Welsh-Ryan and the basketball arena. Way too far off campus for that.
http://www.northwestern.edu/newscenter/stories/2012/09/athletics-recrea…
Welsh-Ryan is not that far off campus. Perhaps there's something I'm missing but from the southern most part of Northwestern's campus it's the same distance to Welsh-Ryan as it is from Michigan Stadium to the Hill Area (and Mary Markley residence hall). Sounds like lazy students to me.
Or Penn State if they could recruit Philly.
Somewhat different set of circumstances. There are several schools in Philadelphia with better basketball programs. St. John's in NYC and the University of Maryland are both closer than PSU and better choices for top recruits out of Philly. Georgetown too.
This is true. Plus, Philadelphians have no affinity for central/western Pennsylvania. They are far more culturally bound to the other east coast cities, like DC and New York. The thought of going out to the countryside in central PA is something of a nightmare for inner city Philly kids.
OSU recruits people who can block? I thought they just relied on their all-world speed to run around people. Are we sure this offer is comittable?
Depends on who he chooses.
Jamarco Jones - all conference name
This just means he has around 7 weeks to realize Michigan should be his leader.
I was looking forward to seeing their 2014 O-line 2 deep consisting of 3 scholarship players and a lot of walk-ons. They still might get there with any attrition or flame-outs
Seems they may go the JUCO route to fill the holes in the OL.
but if the JUCO players were so hot, wouldn't they have been picked up already/be heavily pursued by other schools too?
But that's very much the exception. It's rare that top 250 type players go to JUCO, and of the ones that do, many of them don't make it out of JUCO.
Nick Fairley is a good example, but those guys are hard to find (and many times come with other problems). Cam Newton is not a good example, because he went the JUCO route just so he wouldn't have to sit out after transferring.
Getting a JUCO is fine if you want a stop gap, because you can get a 21 year old with playing experience instead of a true frosh, but it will likely not lead to an all-conference type player.
Those guys are good examples of JUCO gems, but they were also recruited, wanted, and signed LOIs on signing day, they didn't transfer in after spring practice due to need.
Kansas State under Snyder is the master of JUCO-ing up the lineup and they have found some success over the years, so it can be done. But recruiting JUCO when you normally build through HS recruiting may or may not work for a position of need in a given year like Urban's OL.
If Meyer JUCO's up his offensive line, he won't necessarily be getting quality linemen. He'll be getting bodies, which is fine by me. I'd very much look forward to watching our defensive line rip through them all day. But with guys like Charlton, Poggi, Pip and (hopefully) Hand under Mattison's tutelage, that might happen anyway.
MSU is the obvious choice. That's where good offensive linemen go to be great. Just look at...umm...Flozell "The Hotel."
And lets not forget Tony "Have Another Horse Steroid" Mandarich....
Since this guy will be a buckeye, I no longer care.
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I know a few Illinois graduates. They don't give a damn about any of their sports. Mostly just resort to pro sports like da bulls and da bears.
For those that are paying attention, the dominoes are falling....
Doles to Northwestern, Jones to OSU, and Bars to Michigan.