OT: NFL Draft / Who Do You Want Your Team To Draft? OPEN Thread
I wouldn't create this type of thread if either Football or Basketball were in season, but since it's the slow period, I feel like it's okay.
That said, are your more following Michigan players in the draft or do you have a team? Who do you want your team to draft? Where do you think Michigan's players will be drafted?
Any and all discussion is welcome...
I want the Lions to draft Dion Jordan. He has freakish athletic ability and can do things that guys in his size shouldn't do. He would be a great fit as a 4-3 SAM LB with his ability to cover against TEs/WRs yet has the athleticism to line up at DE on passing downs and rush the passer.
Dee Milliner. Secondary is a sieve.
with the signing of Quin, resigning of Houston and Delmas. I liked 2 young CBs in Bentley and Green, and both can start for the Lions. CB is not a big need that many think they are, and I believe that Mayhew thinks the same as well. They do need a quality backup S just in case Delmas gets hurt.
They need more help at DE than at CB. Dion wouldn't play DE for the Lions but would play at SAM LB for them because of his ability to do a lot of things for the Lions defense.
I would agree but Delmas is basically a glorified cheerleader he misses so many games. He plays about 6 games a season and he only plays hurt on National TV games. We can count on him week 1 & if we're on MNF, SNF and Thanksgiving. Other than that it's a mix of random nobody types that are moving from CB to FS to SS to LB, etc. We NEED 2 things in this draft to pan out: Secondary (at any position, with a preference for Milliner) and OL (As many as possible as our record hasn't been great picking them). So, if we stay at 5 and landed Milliner or either of the concensus top 2 OTs I'd be fine. After the first pick, use the next on whatever you didn't take and then keep piling on OL. We do need a late pick at LB & DL, though. So, assuming no trades it should be something like 1 DB, 1 DL, 1 LB & 2-3 OL. (Lions only have 5 or 6 picks, right?)
April 21st, 2013 at 10:36 PM ^
As much as many think they do. It's not as big of a need as DE or SAM LB on defense. I also don't think Milliner is as good as the value at #5 overall IMO(to me, he's a late 1st rounder), and other CBs in the draft in 2nd/3rd round are just as good as Dee.
I tend to think they will go for Ziggy at #5 if that we're to happen.
April 21st, 2013 at 10:41 AM ^
Weird. Never heard of them.
April 21st, 2013 at 11:24 AM ^
You must not follow football then. They made the playoffs 2 years ago and have the best WR in the NFL.
April 21st, 2013 at 11:29 AM ^
a lot of people on this board say that stupid shit, also they're from the same city that the university of Michigan opened
if that is your attempt to make the Lions sound good,that's a bad attempt.
It was an attempt to say that willirwin1778's comment was idiotic.
Nope
April 21st, 2013 at 10:54 AM ^
Dion Jordan will be a hype bust, the guy never stood out during a Oregon game. I'd go the kid from BYU,Milner,and one of the OT's
but I teach at the high school that Dion went to out in Arizona. I spot at the football games as well, and while I have no great insight on what kind of pro he will be, I hope he makes it. What he went through his senior with the burns he suffered (if you've never read the story, here's a link, http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--perseverance-leads-oregon-s-dion-jordan-to-brink-of-nfl-after-accident-almost-ended-his-dream-023331504.html) and how it affected his recruitment really makes me want to see the kid succeed. I've never heard anything but good about him from the people who worked with him...
April 21st, 2013 at 10:38 PM ^
He is a freakish athlete who is a new breed defenders on combating against big and athletic TEs like Gronk, Hernandez, Graham, etc. that so many NFL team use them as a big mis-match.
I think this thread would be fine any time. It's a pretty big event and involves a lot of players from Michigan and players who have played against Michigan. Anyway, I almost think there's no way the Lions can mess this up. I just don't want them to take Ansah, I just don't get the hype with him. I'd like them to take Milliner but really anything from Dion Jordan to Eric Fisher would be fine with me.
...but most open threads are "day of", I guess that's why I gave the disclaimer. There's no live event, maybe I should've just called it "Discussion Thread"
After thinking about it, I would have to say the lions should get the best LT ( Probably Fisher) that is available. I was a big Dee Millner fan at first but im not sure hes gonna be a shut down corner right away in the NFL.. If he was Patrick Peterson I would say grab him, buts hes not. So LT it is. We need O lineman real bad.
My team will draft Denard Robinson. That's because the team that has Denard will become my team. I think he'd fit in well with the lions, iggles, or patriots.
Please God don't let Denard rot with my Lions. I hope he goes to any team but us. He deserves a shot at success.
April 21st, 2013 at 11:42 AM ^
I hear ya. I even tried to root for the Raiders after Woodson was drafted. That sucked
The Lions need both line help as well as secondary help, but I think a corner is a stretch that early. And given their cap situation, I'd rather spend whatever money on linemen than corners, at least in the short term. The lack of a running game and decent pass protection scares me
I made this (for the Detroit Lions) a month ago, although it's oozing with B1G Homerism in the late rounds and I obviously have no knowledge or expertise, it was just interesting to look at prospects and try to see what I would do.
1st Round: Eric Fisher (OT) - Central Michigan
1st Round [via trade with Denver Broncos*]: Bjoern Werner (DE) - Florida St.
4th Round: Tyrann Mathieu (CB) - Formerly LSU
4th Round: Ryan Swope (WR) - Texas A&M
5th Round: Earl Watford (OG) - James Madison
5th Round: Johnny Adams (CB) - Michigan St. / Terry Hawthorne (CB) - Illinois
6th Round: Jake Stoneburner (TE) - Ohio / Joseph Fauria (TE) - UCLA
7th Round: MarQueis Gray (ATH) - Minnesota
7th Round: Kenny Demens (ILB) - Michigan / Mike Taylor (OLB) - Wisconsin
*In trade with Denver Broncos, Detroit Gets: Denver's 1st, 4th and 5th round selections. Denver Gets: Detroit's 2nd and 3rd round selections.
They need safe picks unless they can figure out how to sign good fa's. They need to stay away from honey badger.
April 21st, 2013 at 10:07 AM ^
The Honey Badger is really good. But, he is too much of a head case for the Lions at this point. ***If the Lions went and got Woodson, that would make more since to have a mentour for Mathieu. I like Fisher or the other OT in the 1st round. The Lions need a running game.
but I have to agree on the Honey Badger. Haven't the Lions had enough idiots on their roster lately? That WR from Boise State, Suh seems to fairly regularly do some dumb things..seems like the Lions need less nut jobs
April 21st, 2013 at 10:09 AM ^
Fauria is a really good TE, I'd be psyched if the Lions picked him up that late. Better than Stoneburner, at least in what I've seen of them both.
April 21st, 2013 at 10:48 AM ^
1. Eric Fisher OT CMU
2. Alex Okafor DE Texas
3. Jordan Poyer CB Oregon State
4. Kenny stills WR Oklahoma
5. Devin Taylor DE USC NNTUSC
6. Ace sanders KR USC NNTUSC
7. Jake stoneburner TE/ Scheffler role Ohio
April 21st, 2013 at 11:10 AM ^
I wouldn't mind if in the fifth round....or to trade back into the fourth round...to take Lattimore, the injured RB from USC (not that USC). I think he is the best rb in the draft, and is a steal below the 3rd round, although he is there for the obvious risk involved
April 21st, 2013 at 11:27 AM ^
Mathieu will be taken in the late 2nd/early 3rd round. There is a possibility we could get Werner in the 2nd round, so not sure why we would give up our 3rd and 4th rd picks. I don't mind swope in the 4th. I'm not a fan of the rest of your picks though.
Here's what ESPN has...
I'll say Denard is a mid-late 3rd rounder, Campbell is late 4th/early 5th round, Kovacs is late 6th/early 7th and Demens is mid-7th round...
Michigan | |||||||||
ALL PLAYERS | POS | HT | WT | GRADE | POS RANK | OVR RANK | |||
Denard Robinson | WR | 5'10½" | 199 | 57 | 22 | ||||
Kenny Demens | ILB | 6'0⅝" | 245 | 30 | 20 | ||||
William Campbell | DT | 6'4⅞" | 318 | 30 | 28 | ||||
Patrick Omameh | OG | 6'4" | 295 | 30 | 28 | ||||
Jordan Kovacs | S | 5'11" | 202 | 30 | 31 | ||||
Craig Roh | DE | 6'4¼" | 271 | 30 | 32 | ||||
Elliott Mealer | OG | 6'4⅛" | 319 | 30 | 35 | ||||
Jt Floyd | CB | 6'0" | 185 | 30 | 52 | ||||
Roy Roundtree | WR | 6'0" | 175 | 30 | 53 | ||||
Vincent Smith | RB | 5'6½" | 172 | 30 | 58 | ||||
Darryl Stonum | WR | 6'2" | 195 | 30 | 66 | ||||
Brandon Moore | TE | 6'5" | 268 | 30 | 66 | ||||
Ricky Barnum | OG | 6'1⅞" | 297 | 30 | 80 | ||||
Brandin Hawthorne | OLB | 5'11⅞" | 220 | 30 | 108 |
April 21st, 2013 at 11:54 AM ^
was with his beard... either that, or he's put on a lot of weight since the season at 319 lbs.
You're welcome
I'm very intrigued by our draft possibilities. I haven't kept up with the offseason chatter but I assume we'll be after offensive playmakers at WR. Would have been after the top LT if not for Jake Long (woooo!) Can't wait to see what Fisher has planned for all his top picks.
Tavon Austin would be a monster in St Louie. That's a team to watch this year for sure. The NFC West is finally getting respectable again.
Especially on the defensive side of the ball. Was there a better defensive conference in the league last year? I don't think so, personally. Best part... the Rams had the best record within that division last year... just couldn't keep it rolling outside of the NFC West. OT Edit: Ah so you're the one who beat me to Solo Dolo. I would've gone with Solo Dolo Man most likely.... to hide my proclivities a bit more subtly.
April 21st, 2013 at 10:17 AM ^
I was going going to make it Mr Solo Dolo, but for some reason I didn't, obvs. I don't smoke anymore, ((most)real jobs aren't too keen about that), but I have no problem with it or people that do. Is yours from "Who's got the herbs" by 311?? That's what I always think (hope)when I see your screen name. Love me some 311.
I created this one for grasscity originally... back when sin semilla was never guaranteed.
Is that Austin has blown up to the point he goes to Buffalo, San Diego, or Tampa.. All drafting in front of St.L. Nice to see a another Rams fan on here though. I'm hoping he falls, but not expecting him to.
April 21st, 2013 at 10:19 AM ^
As a Chargers fan, I don't think they pick anyone other than Lane Johnson, Chance Warmack or Jonathan Cooper. And I think Buffalo picks either of the guards to replace Andy Levitre. TB doesn't need a WR that early, I think they go corner if the Revis deal doesn't work out. Bottom line, I'm trying to sway you with my unprofessional opinion that Austin falls to STL. They do need a guy like Austin pretty bad!
Revis to Tampa is essentially a done deal. He has to pass the physical still, but
I was hoping my Bucs traded back with St Louis or Minnesota because they both want Austin. They better not have given up too much. I'm sure they did because the GM's job is on the line. All or nothing type of season.
April 21st, 2013 at 10:55 AM ^
I'm also a rams fan and that is my fear too but that leaves a chance that one of the other three or four (warmack, vaccarro, cooper, fluker) prospects that could really help us on either side of the ball and they could also go best player available.
If the Rams grabed a saftey and a Tavon i would be happy. Or if one of the top two guards is avialibele during their pick (warmack or Cooper) i would take them over any of the safteys in this draft. Also i really hope they dont reach for Lacy, dont think he is that good of a RB.
April 21st, 2013 at 10:19 AM ^
I would be very surprised if the Rams took anything other than a WR, except maybe a LB. That defense looks like it is really coming around but Bradford has little help from his WRs. They are young, so a trade for a veteran or something may make more sense.
April 21st, 2013 at 11:18 AM ^
I figured we (rams) could still get a Fluker or Ogletree type at pick 22. The Rams have Washington's pick as well. RGIII.
They haven't had a player like Austin since Marshall. I also worry they continue to trade down to compile picks. At some point the team needs to get playmakers and not focus so much on depth. Only way to take the next step.
Fluker is probably of the board by the time the rams pick .
I see Will being a 5th-6th. Has too many measurables as a space-eating DT, maybe a practice squad guy for year 1 before becoming a solid platoon contributor.
CB Desmond Trufant from Washington, or the best DE that's on the board. I wouldn't mind the Donkeys taking all defense, and picking up a solid RB somewhere in the 3rd or 4th round. This team is gonna be fun to watch this year.
Denard in the slot/kr for Detriot would be nice. I thought he did real good at reciever the last two games of the season.
Carradine for my Giants. This guy is a stud, too bad he got injured pretty bad last year.