September 13th, 2009 at 6:44 AM ^
If ND loses, Weis will probably lose his job. If state loses, Our probable victory over them will be meaningless. Which one is better for M?
September 13th, 2009 at 7:48 AM ^
It's better for us if ND wins. MSU is already the weaker team (losing to CMU) and ND still has a chance to stay in the top 25. I think that a win for ND makes the M win over ND look better. Plus, Weis is 1-3 against us. Rooting for the end of Big Charlie is like rooting for the end of John Cooper.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:27 AM ^
Weis is 2-3 against us. His first year was 2005 with Brady Quinn. Sidenote I had flashbacks to that game when Tate fumble that snap on the goal line. Anyone remember Henne fumbling a snap and essentially it cost us the game? I love that we recovered that snap, even though no points came of it.
September 13th, 2009 at 4:08 PM ^
Oops. I had blocked the game in 2005 from my memory.
September 13th, 2009 at 11:22 AM ^
I use to hate ND more than msu, but since we beat notre dame it is hard for me to root against Charlie. He needs to win so we...I mean they can keep him. Dantonio on the other hand can bounce.
September 13th, 2009 at 7:28 PM ^
Plus, even if Weis loses to State, he very well could win all the rest except for USC. Hard to get rid of Weis with a three loss season.
Looking at the game for its implications on this season:
1) now that we beat ND we want them to have a strong season so we beat a quality opponent.
AND
2) If MSU takes its second loss of the season (a) I suspect those who wear green locally will be MUCH quieter (always a good thing) (b) we're still talking about MSU here and too many punches to the gut have historically sent these guys to the canvas. ND kicking them around might soften them up for us. Not going to lie to you, all I want is to DRUB MSU. I don't want a close game-for-the-ages/ESPN Instant Classic on 10/3. I want to KICK THE CRAP out of State in their foul little house.
Have to believe its better for us to have ND slap Sparty around.
September 13th, 2009 at 6:52 AM ^
of Allen and Floyd, both got dinged up yesterday. I don't know if the Irish cut back on the gold plating for their helmets but did you see the shape some of their helmets were in towards the end of the game!? That was a hard hitting game! Should be interesting but I'm willing to bet ND gets it together and takes it.
September 13th, 2009 at 10:51 AM ^
I don't think Floyd got hurt that bad. From the view on the TV it looked like he just cut up his knee.
September 13th, 2009 at 7:09 AM ^
walk off the field next week with a two game losing streak.
September 13th, 2009 at 7:22 AM ^
against ND and the Buckeyes, as I hate ND and OSU much, much more. However, Spartina nation has been particularly smug and obnoxious over the last year, so I will be rooting for the Irish. All this b.s. about Spartina "owning the state" and a "changing of the guard" makes me want nothing more than to lick the tears of every Spartina fan that has engaged in this nonsensical behavior. Plus, I think I actually hate Dantonio more than Jabba and sweater vest. As i saw someone post over on the CMU thread....Little brother's fall is coming before their pride! GO BLUE!
September 13th, 2009 at 8:14 AM ^
"fall coming before the pride" ... I'm with you BNags. Typically, I'll pull (reluctantly) for MSU against Dame and OSU. This year, I wouldn't mind the Irish laying a big total on them.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:06 AM ^
beats FYS by 5 td's.
And I think they will.
September 13th, 2009 at 9:08 AM ^
ND is always welcome to "return to glory" every year...after their second game. Go Return to Glory now fat Charlie.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:56 AM ^
No, you have it all wrong. Two losers enter, two losers leave. It's just, one will have more points on the scoreboard.
September 13th, 2009 at 10:04 AM ^
but in inverse... so for those textually dis-inclined:
MSU v. ND '09 = THUNDERDOME^(-1)
September 13th, 2009 at 4:21 PM ^
Technically, that's the reciprocal, not the inverse.