ontarioblue

April 1st, 2013 at 3:05 PM ^

Not like Bellomy was going to play this year unless we were up by 50, at home with 2 minutes on the clock.  Shane was always 2nd in line any ways.  They just hoped they were never going to play him.  Look for a walk on to handle mop up duties.  Shane will only be used if Gardiner is seriously hurt (pray that doesn't happen).

WolvinLA2

April 1st, 2013 at 3:37 PM ^

There is absolutely no evidence to suggest the coaches lost all confidence in Bellomy. Many of the fans, sure. But not the coaches. Give me one reason why you think that. Playing Gardner in his place doesn't count because DG is obviously awesome.

WolvinLA2

April 1st, 2013 at 3:54 PM ^

But "playing poorly in one game" and "coaches have lost all confidence" are not the same thing.

Also, "coaches have lost all confidence" and "coaches felt DG was the better option" is also not the same thing. Yes, we know DG is better. That does not mean the coaches have given up on Bellomy.

M-Wolverine

April 1st, 2013 at 3:57 PM ^

Because he was the "backup" who goes in and takes a couple of snaps while Denard gets it together while Devin is playing at our thin wideout position because he's a good enough athlete to help.  Devin was the "if we need to replace anyone for any time but God we hope we don't have to" backup. Probably very much like Morris would be treated this year. He's not burning a redshirt to go in and hand off at the end of games, but if we needed someone to play the second half of the season, it could be him.  And it would be a disaster in any case.

WolvinLA2

April 1st, 2013 at 4:09 PM ^

I agree with almost all of this, but I'm less sure that Shane was going to be the long term option over Bellomy if DG went out for a while. When you're playing a back up QB, you want a guy who will make good decisions, few mistakes and knows the play book well, because you don't want him to be both less skilled and predictable. Neither of those guys are going to be completing many throws downfield anyway.

DG was the obvious long term fix because he was both better and more experienced than Bellomy. I'm not sure Shane is either at this point, but certainly not the latter.

willywill9

April 1st, 2013 at 5:54 PM ^

Thought i read an article that proved exactly the opposite of what folks are saying... that the coaches were down on him.

Borges: 

"He's gained some confidence back," offensive coordinator Al Borges said Tuesday. "He probably lost a little bit -- who wouldn't, I guess. He's had a really good six days of spring football.



From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130326/SPORTS0201/303260438#ixzz2PFdTKzy6

TheGhostofYost

April 1st, 2013 at 4:08 PM ^

Ok well I guess I don't know what your definition of "lost confidence" is.  He was the back-up, and after an awful performance he was moved down the depth chart.  If your argument is that the coaches haven't lost confidence in his ability to make the team, then I agree.

WolvinLA2

April 1st, 2013 at 4:14 PM ^

Had the coaches lost confidence in him as the guy in 2012? Sure. But in the comment I'm replying to above, the poster said the coaches have lost "all" confidence in him, which implied to me that this is their current feeling (otherwise his post makes no sense).

Did the coaches feel that he wasn't quite as ready in 2012 as they thought? Sure, but that doesn't mean they have absolutely no confidence in him moving forward. Young players do tend to improve from year to year.

DemetriusBrown

April 1st, 2013 at 3:21 PM ^

What has Bellomy done up to this point? If Morris is the heir apparent to Gardner I would have expected him to be second string anyway. You play the guy who gives you the best chance to win. I'm not saying they would have burned his redshirt in garbage time but is Bellomy the guy you have confidence in to win a game in doubt?

WolvinLA2

April 1st, 2013 at 3:35 PM ^

First of all, you don't name an heir apparent before they show up to campus, just because he was a big recruit. And although Bellomy looked bad in a game he clearly wasn't ready for, Shane looked just as bad in his Army All American game, and that was against high schoolers in a very low pressure environment.

Share has upside, for sure, but it's clear he's not ready. And he doesn't know the play book or have any chemistry with receivers. In 2013, the only advantage he'll have over Bellomy (knee ligaments excepted) is a huge arm, and that's not something of huge value in a back up QB.

Everyone loves the "but Bellomy looked so bad in that one game" defense, but when has Shane looked any better? And don't give me "he couldn't be any worse" because that's a cop out, and not true.

Wolverine15

April 1st, 2013 at 7:41 PM ^

But he couldn't have been any worse. I mean, do you remember that game? Bellomy was awful. 3-16, 3 interceptions, no points (except for a field goal to make it 10-9 Huskers when Denard had already driven the team to the 8 yard line). Absolutely atrocious. Out routes were sailing 10 feet over receivers heads. HOWEVA, I agree with what you're saying. As much as I think Shane will be a great player for this program, he won't be ready in the fall and it sounds like Bellomy had been improving a lot. Depth is always good and this sucks. The season really now hinges on Gardner staying upright (*knock on wood and do a little jig for good luck*)

WolvinLA2

April 1st, 2013 at 8:06 PM ^

I know the performance was terrible, and I don't necessarily mean that Bellomy could have done much worse, because I agree there's not a whole lot of room for that.  I just mean that in terms of a player, it could be worse than Bellomy.  If he was that horrible, the coaches would have gone after a second QB in Shane's class, some MAC kid or something.  

It seems that the most prevelent argument for why Shane would be the backup over Bellomy is that he couldn't be any worse, which I disgaree with (and it sounds like you might as well).  

I'm hoping this Cleary kid can be serviceable as a backup, either until Bellomy is healthy (which I bet he is halfway through the season) or Shane picks everything up.  He has the size at 6'3" 200 and he's not your typical walk on in that he was recruiting by a handful of D1 schools out of high school.  

SeattleWolverine

April 1st, 2013 at 3:20 PM ^

That was my first thought as well. Even a potential scrub just for depth and to allow for some possibility of redshirting Morris if Gardner stays healthy would have some value. Or to hedge against the disasterous possibility of Gardner/Morris being dinged simultaneously. Obviously you'd have to see attrition of 2+ before fall to put us at 84 and open up a schollie.

 

 

Perkis-Size Me

April 1st, 2013 at 3:08 PM ^

Jesus H. Christ. I feel like the only football news we've been getting lately is strictly bad news. Did we hire Danny Hope as an assistant and all of his bad luck has just followed us here?

Maybe we can still avoid extinguishing Shane's redshirt, and that hopefully we can just deliver mop-up duty to our walk-on guys. And fergodsakes, PLEASE STAY HEALTHY DEVIN!

WingsNWolverines

April 1st, 2013 at 3:18 PM ^

I seriously have my doubts about Shane being a backup behind Gardner this year. Too inexperienced. Bellomy has some time in and is a year older although if Shane lights it up in training he could be ready.

The Wolf

April 1st, 2013 at 4:47 PM ^

What if the kid knows or has accepted that he isn't going to be getting a phone call from the NFL any time soon? If Michigan has a program that he is looking for (odds are it's at least decently rated, right?) and he just wants to play and be part of a team for another year, you never know. There are many things worse that can happen to you professionally (networking, exposure, etc.) than to become a part of Michigan academically and athletically. 

Blueinsconsin

April 1st, 2013 at 3:36 PM ^

I am not sure of all the rules behind redshirting, but could they give Morris a reshirt and have him listed as 2nd on the depth chart?  If something happens to Gardner (knock on wood it doesn't), then they would burn the redshirt and put in Morris?

justingoblue

April 1st, 2013 at 3:44 PM ^

all a redshirt means is that you take advantage of the NCAA allowing five years for four years of competition. If he plays (assuming nothing medical or "medical" happens) he'll have four years to play three seasons after 2013, then three for two after 2014, ect.

The only thing that matters is whether he plays or not. He could be listed as the starter all season, and it won't matter for redshirt purposes unless he takes the field.

Steves_Wolverines

April 1st, 2013 at 3:48 PM ^

Brady Hoke can't recruit players with strong knees. Bring Rich Rod back. 

~Herm

(Is that how it works? I'm still getting used to the inside jokes around here)

 

But on the serious side, this stinks.

New rule: Everybody has to wear knee braces from now on. Yes, even the coaches.