Ohio State Game Snowflakes Thread

Submitted by M-Wolverine on
Eat it Buckeyes, home protected, title hopes alive.

MaizeNBlueTexan

February 6th, 2013 at 12:04 AM ^

I love Burke but man I hated that play. If you wanted Burke to make a play, either"

1. drive into the paint and make a shot/lay up.

2. make a move and draw defenders and dish it to a big in the paint

If you want to really shoot a three, which we didnt need than...GIVE IT TO THJ! the guy that made 6 three's and went 5/5 in a freaking row! lol

 

TheGhostofYost

February 6th, 2013 at 12:13 AM ^

What a great win.  Crisler was awesome tonight.  Like everyone else, I'm concerned about the defense going forward, especially weakside rotation and on-the-ball defense.  We aren't going to shoot 58% from 3 many times.  It seemed like every time OSU took the ball to the basket, someone either failed to rotate or was forced to rotate so much that guys were wide opens for threes.  I really hope this is just a function of Morgan being out. 

WolverineHistorian

February 6th, 2013 at 12:05 AM ^

On a seperate note, are we done with Vitale for a while?  An entire game of slobbering over Craft, and his usual Indiana mention and the fact that the Victors is the second best fight song to Notre Dame's was more than I could take.  I know his heart is in the right place but just....shut up!

Please don't tell me he's doing our game at Breslin next week.

DK81

February 6th, 2013 at 12:05 AM ^

No one will convince me that was a foul on the last play the way the game had been called up to that point. If you think it was a foul you our just trying to not be a homer.

Mr. Yost

February 6th, 2013 at 12:05 AM ^

I say let Michigan, Ohio, IU and MSU play a round robin then a best of 7 Final Four tournament.

I truly think the B1G is dominating basketball like the SEC is dominating football right now.

I just hope you guys are enjoying this. We have something to be proud of.

I've seen the B1G, Big East and ACC live this year...we're on another level. It's not even close. The B1G this year is as good as the best Big East or ACC years of the past 15 years.

Enjoy it everyone, seriously. We have something to brag about and feel proud of.

If we don't kill ourselves before the tournament, I would've be surprised if we have 5 teams in the Elite Eight. Wisconsin and Minnesota are going to get to March like "WTF? This is easy."

Until they play us.

Mr. Yost

February 6th, 2013 at 12:12 AM ^

I say let Michigan, Ohio, IU and MSU play a round robin then a best of 7 Final Four tournament.

I truly think the B1G is dominating basketball like the SEC is dominating football right now.

I just hope you guys are enjoying this. We have something to be proud of.

I've seen the B1G, Big East and ACC live this year...we're on another level. It's not even close. The B1G this year is as good as the best Big East or ACC years of the past 15 years.

Enjoy it everyone, seriously. We have something to brag about and feel proud of.

If we don't kill ourselves before the tournament, I would've be surprised if we have 5 teams in the Elite Eight. Wisconsin and Minnesota are going to get to March like "WTF? This is easy."

Until they play us.

Needs

February 6th, 2013 at 12:33 AM ^

This conference deserves 2 1's and 2 2's. Top 8 seeds: Michigan, Indiana, Kansas, Miami, Duke, OSU, MSU, Syracuse/Louisville.

(I know Florida will be in there, but they have no good wins and just got blown out at a mediocre Arkansas).

GRFS11

February 6th, 2013 at 12:08 AM ^

He had 4 steals, 1 foul, and 1 block.  Craft had 3 steals, 2 fouls, and 0 blocks.  Oh, and McGary is an actual competent offensive player who doesn't need an extra 2 seconds on the shot clock to score.

Erik_in_Dayton

February 6th, 2013 at 12:09 AM ^

It would be nice if Novak could come back too, for that matter. It was tough watching OSU be grittier than Michigan for long stretches tonight. Michigan is going to have to toughen up very soon.

E. Gordon Gee

February 6th, 2013 at 12:18 AM ^

If there is anyone with a modicum of respect for their opponents congratulations on the win and a great game. 

  • I don't get why everyone one complains about the ref. OSU got 5 points, Michigan didn't get call for the foul on craft, OSU/Michigan didn't get this call. Who cares play through it. The officials in the B1G have been bad this entire year. 
  • The game changer was Hardaway shooting 6-9 from the three point line. For a team that plays good 3 point defense, we sure did lay an egg in the second half. 
  • I don't think I've ever seen Michigan set ball screens that hard to free up players to shoot the three. It made it hard to go over the screen since going under results in a open shot for 2 seconds. Trey burke and Hardaway hit three of these when the defender went under the screen. 
  • I didn't expect for the game to be that high scoring or go into OT but it was great defense on OSU end. 
  • If the basketball game was this good can't wait until the football game. 

Couldn't get the sweep, but can't be disappointed with a split! Good game! 

B-Nut-GoBlue

February 6th, 2013 at 1:57 AM ^

Pretty good points and I concur with about everything.  I think you hit on something some of us have noticed, maybe more so in earlier weeks, but the notion about our screens is something of interest.  They were solid tonight.  They needed to be, too.

Mmmm Hmmm

February 6th, 2013 at 12:12 AM ^

Well...



TH jr. was tremendous.



Trey had an outstanding individual effort.



Mitch played today.



("Was that a foul on Craft on the last play?") That is a stupid question.



/Lloyd

Mr. Yost

February 6th, 2013 at 12:23 AM ^

On dead ball situations...

We should've went with Horford for GRIII and LeVert for Stauskas on defense.

They got so many second chance looks and much was because we just didn't have the right guys in.

We especially should've made the move because we had 2 timeouts late in the game to bring the ball up, call TO and get Stauskas and GRIII back in the game.

In OT we started with both Horford and McGary and did they even score in the first 3 minutes of OT?

GRIII has seemed exhausted for a couple of games, and LeVert is one of the better defenders on the entire team. Would've loved to see some offense/defense subs on dead balls. You can't afford to take those guys out if it's not a dead ball situation.

If we do this, I don't think we even get to OT. I think we win in regulation.

But, who cares, we won. Just hope we get it corrected moving forward because it's not going to get easier.

Darth Wolverine

February 6th, 2013 at 12:19 AM ^

I love Ohio fans. All over twitter it is shit like: "alright, now they are *insert record* against Matta and Tressel." They always make fun of us when talking about the overall record in football and how M got 15 or so wins in a row when Ohio first started playing football. Well it is similar to bball. Matta had the fortune of playing some pathetic bball teams while M was under sanctions with NO elite talent. They just don't like it that we are fighting back finally.

MaizeNBlueTexan

February 6th, 2013 at 12:40 AM ^

I was able to take a screenshot of the shot. It is a little blurry, but is 1600x900 and it clearly shows the ball in his hands with the 0 on the shot clock.

I have it in PNG and JPEG form but am unable to find a way to post it on this site, if you wish for me to email it to you...or if you can assist me in posting it. I would be happy to do either.

MaizeNBlueTexan

February 6th, 2013 at 12:53 AM ^

You can't see it because I screwed up SO BAD the edit button is gone and I can't edit it to tell everyone it is a bad link and for the mods to delete it...

I took a screen shot off of a video posted from another website, and it won't let me load it. I understand giving the website I took the screenshot from credit, but I can't figure out the process to load the picture.

willywill9

February 6th, 2013 at 12:40 AM ^

Espn really should have called out the blatant shot clock violation. And craft doesn't get that call. Jordan... Ehhhh, Maybe. Great game. Hardaway Jr player of the week. McGary had an outstanding showing.



Finally, does anyone doubt we need Jordan Morgan out there?? Get well soon!!

MaizeNBlueTexan

February 6th, 2013 at 12:43 AM ^

The issue I have is that ESPN showed the replay and put the #SCTOP10 in the left hand corner when Craft took the shot. The announcers then said it was either a top 10 shot or a missed call. 

Nothing was said after the shot when it was showed. ESPN never mentioned it during the whole sportscenter show and it was buried. 

I'm sorry, but man up and call it one way or the other. Don't put your head between your legs and look...well...I won't say.

MaizeNBlueTexan

February 6th, 2013 at 1:02 AM ^

I played basketball and this is me being SUPER nitpicky. 

If Ohio fans give you crap for the "no foul" Craft got at the end of the game. Tell them to re watch the shot. We (I'm not sure if it was hardaway, or GR3 or whoever who fouled) reached ACROSS Craft and touched his left hand. Let me repeat...the only thing he touched was his left hand.

Craft is a right handed shooter, the left hand is a guide hand, the right hand is the push/shooting hand. We had extremely minimal effect on Craft shooting that last shot.

We basically touched his non shooting hand and Craft missed. End of game, end of discussion.

If Ohio wants to be upset about a no call, tell them to be upset about Craft not going strong to the finish. Craft was shooting for the foul call, not shooting for a win.

There is many other issues I had with this game on both sides, but I will end it here with just this one call. Go blue, good win.

Elwood Blues

February 6th, 2013 at 12:42 AM ^

If you'd told me at the start of overtime that Michigan would score only one field goal for the rest of the game, I'm not sure I could've watched. Credit Michigan for finding that extra gear in OT and clamping down on OSU. Go Blue!

Muttley

February 6th, 2013 at 1:04 AM ^

2012-13 Big Ten STANDINGS

TEAM CONF GB OVR
#1 Indiana 8-1 -- 20-2
#3 Michigan 8-2 .5 21-2
#12 Michigan State 7-2 1 18-4
#10 Ohio State 7-3 1.5 17-5
Wisconsin 6-3 2 15-7
#18 Minnesota 5-4 3 17-5
Purdue 5-5 3.5 12-11
Northwestern 4-6 4.5 13-10
Iowa 3-6 5 14-8
Illinois 2-7 6 15-8
Nebraska 2-8 6.5 11-12
Penn State 0-10 8.5 8-14

 

I'd say we're in as good of shape as anyone, including Indiana.

I'm going to count @Minny as a Key/Tough Win

 

Key Home Games: 1
Key Away Games: 4  

Feb 10 1:00 PM ET
Feb 19 7:00 PM ET
Feb 26 7:00 PM ET
Mar 5 9:00 PM ET
Mar 10 TBD

 

Key Home Games: 2
Key Away Games: 2  

Feb 9 12:00 PM ET
Feb 12 9:00 PM ET
Mar 2 5:15 PM ET
Mar 10 TBD

 

Key Home Games: 3
Key Away Games:  2  

Feb 12 9:00 PM ET
Feb 19 7:00 PM ET
Feb 24 TBD
Mar 2 5:15 PM ET
Mar 7 9:00 PM ET

 

Key Home Games: 2
Key Away Games: 2
Bad Loss: @ Illinois  

Feb 10 1:00 PM ET
Feb 17 1:00 PM ET
Feb 24 TBD
Mar 5 9:00 PM ET

 

 

Key Home Games:
2 Key Away Games: 2
Bad Loss: @ Iowa

Feb 9 12:00 PM ET
Feb 14 7:00 PM ET
Feb 17 1:00 PM ET
Mar 7 9:00 PM ET

 

bo_lives

February 6th, 2013 at 1:11 AM ^

Especially at the end of the game. And I mean in a more than "we're opposing point guards" kind of way. Whenever they play, it's as if Burke is trying to shove it in Matta's face that he should have recruited him, and Kraft is trying to prove that Ohio doesn't need Burke.

The shot at the end of regulation was a waste. You're telling me the play they drew up was to have Burke shoot a fadeaway three after a defensive switch over a guy 6 inches taller than him? It was a similar deal with the last Ohio game too... Burke trying to put the game in his hands and his hands alone by just dribbling around until there's a second left and throwing up a three. Completely telegraphed too, since he's not even looking for the pass - just sizing the defender up.

Obviously Burke is an unbelievable player but with the game on the line I'd just really like us to take a higher percentage shot...

As for Hardaway... dude was out of his mind for a while there. I was at the game and we all kept going nuts, thinking, "there's no way he hits this one too," and then he does...

MaizeNBlueTexan

February 6th, 2013 at 1:17 AM ^

I agree with you for the most part. Unfortunately I think Craft gets the better end of the deal out of it.

I don't know what it is...but man, Craft really is Burke's cryptonyte. 

However, I'm SUPER happy that Burke had some KEY DEFENSIVE PLAYS against Craft. Holy smokes. 

The Craft steal to the basket followed by the Burke stop was IMO true Ohio vs Mich manball. Defense all the way back and forth. I was actually proud of both players...and that is hard for me to say as a die hard Mich fan.

Burke having key defensive plays at the end vs Craft was what made it an even match in my opinion. Burke had some nice 3's and a few offenseive plays, but for the most part Craft shut him down. 

In the end, Burke had the poise to stop Craft's breakaway after the steal, and the athleticism to block Craft's shot at the end.

Just wow....what a game!

robmorren2

February 6th, 2013 at 1:20 AM ^

Morgan/McGary 100x better rotation than Horford/McGary. Horford's lack of lateral quickness KILLS the defense, especially on picks at the top of the key. It usually results in an open shot AND a mismatch for the opponent on the offensive rebound. I'm sure Jon isn't 100%, so its not all on him. Morgan is just a very good defender with good lateral quickness & recovery for a 5. McGary is becoming great at defense ... tons of deflections & steals. His only problem is helping too much and giving up easy boards and put backs (Zeller, ugh).