YOUR all-time Michigan team
The other day I took a trip over to the wayback machine and went way back in interwebs history and looked at a 2000 MGoBlue.com. Back in 1999, Michigan fans voted on MGoBlue for an all-century team.
Now, 13 years later, I want to conduct a new vote on an All-Time Michigan team. You can cast your vote in the thread, I will take the results and put them together.
Copy ballot and paste to into comment box, then type your players.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:43 PM ^
Seen this thread a million times on this board.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:52 PM ^
November 30th, 2012 at 8:12 PM ^
Besides, from the # of responses, I think it is a pretty popular thread.
Also, and this is not directed at you in particular, I cannot figure out why people click on a thread that is obviously something that they are not interested and then take the time just to post a "I think this is a stupid thread" comment. I just don't get it. You don't like the thread, you move on and click on one that is more appealing. /endrant
November 30th, 2012 at 10:58 PM ^
Like a month ago we had a streak going of the first post on every thread being so pissy and contrarian it would get negged. Every thread the first post was wiped out for a couple weeks, it seemed. Where's the love, people? Where's the love?
November 30th, 2012 at 5:00 PM ^
November 30th, 2012 at 5:08 PM ^
PR/KR - Breaston was great, but I think that you have to give the not to Desmond or Charles. It is admittedly close though. Was your reasoning that these guys are already on the team at WR?
David Bass at Center, IMO
Denard at QB: At first, I was going to say that this was crazy, but I see that you constructed a read-option RR styled offense with RR coordinating. Makes sense, but only for this offense. If not, Denard may not crack the top 5 (Brady, Henne, Harbaugh, Elvis)
Otherwise, great lineup.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:27 PM ^
please read below re: Charles at punt returner. Dude was not good.
EDIT: Obviously Charles Woodson is one of the greatest Wolverines of all time, but here is a fun list of people who are better (more yards per return than Woodson, min. 15 attempts) at returning punts than him:
Steve Breaston
Anthony Carter
Tripp Welbourne
John Kolesar
Jim Smith
Julius Curry
David Brown
Gil Chapman
Derrick Alexander
Thomas Darden
Evan Cooper
Dick Sygar
Gilvanni Johnson
Ronald Bellomy
George Hoey (17.1 yards per return!!)
DiAllo Johnson
Desmond Howard
Marquise Walker
Terry Barr (16.4 YPR!!!)
Rick Volk
Barry Pierson (15.0 YPR!!)
Martavious Odoms
Charlie Lentz
Jim Pace
Walt Teninga
Leon Hall
November 30th, 2012 at 5:17 PM ^
He was the best KR/PR I've seen at Michigan, or at least that's my opinion (obviously). I would happily take Howard too, but I'd put Derrick Alexander ahead of Woodson, who (as noted below) wasn't that great at PR with the lone and huge exception of the return against OSU.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:17 PM ^
no anthony carter? he is the best receiver michigan has ever had. period.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:24 PM ^
That's why I didn't list him...though I did go with Dierdorf, so I was admittedly inconsistent.
November 30th, 2012 at 7:56 PM ^
Bo would never coach a team with no FB. Never!!
November 30th, 2012 at 11:07 PM ^
No BJ Askew at FB? He was the team MVP in 2002 over the likes of Braylon who you listed.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:44 PM ^
Schembechler or Yost? So many decisions...
November 30th, 2012 at 4:54 PM ^
November 30th, 2012 at 4:45 PM ^
Woodson has to go in the CB, KR, and PR spots for sure.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:51 PM ^
November 30th, 2012 at 5:04 PM ^
as some kind of amazing punt returner? E-fact: remove his one 78 yard return and his career punt return average is 7.15 yards. (Or don't remove it, he still only averaged 8.7).
Steve Breaston averaged 12.6 and had 4 touchdowns.
Desmond Howard averaged 13 in his career with 1 touchdown.
Derrick Alexander averaged 12.7 and had 4 touchdowns.
James Whitley, who seriously sucked at punt returns, averaged 8.2.
EDIT: Holy crap Anthony Carter averaged 15 yards per return as a senior. That is crazy. Anyway, point is that Charles Woodson is not even in the discussion here.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:30 PM ^
How long have the current punt rules been around as far as fair catches, fair opportunity for the return man to catch the ball, running into the kicker, whatever else there might be? I ask because I wonder if guys these days defer to a fair catch more often than they should (see Jeremy Gallon). If they took more chances on those toss ups they might surprise themselves and break a few open, or at least get more 5-10 yard returns. Do fair catches even factor into these numbers?
December 1st, 2012 at 1:11 AM ^
I don't believe the fair catch rule has changed since I started watching footbal as a kid in the early 70's.
If anything, punters might have stronger legs making it more likely to outkick the coverage and set up longer returns. On the other hand the spread punt formation in the last few years may be bringing average returns down.
December 1st, 2012 at 1:07 AM ^
BTW the first time Anthony Carter touched the football at Michigan in his first game as a true freshman he returned a punt to the house for a TD.
This was back in the day when there was no coverage of recruting and I had never even heard of the guy. He comes on the field wearing #1 and I'm like holy crap this guy must be good, Bo's never let anyone have #1 before. He fields the punt and Boom!
November 30th, 2012 at 4:45 PM ^
Dylon, Dylon
November 30th, 2012 at 4:48 PM ^
I notice we're running the 1-3-4 on defense. Is GERG back?
November 30th, 2012 at 4:48 PM ^
Just fixed it.
November 30th, 2012 at 4:57 PM ^
Denard. That's all I'd need. Except for Tom Brady. But that's it.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:05 PM ^
Makes definite sense. The REAL question should be Denard vs. Ditka. Who wins in a foot race?
November 30th, 2012 at 5:06 PM ^
November 30th, 2012 at 5:33 PM ^
It's cool that you know your Michigan history, but unless you're really really old, isn't this list a bit disingenuous? Your thread so your rules I guess, don't mean to hijack.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:03 PM ^
are related to Harry Newman, it's doubtful he's on anyone's all-time list. Yes, now you can reply to this with his stats, trophies, and accomplishments to show how hard core a Michigan fan you are.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:40 PM ^
He's on my all-time list, because he won the Fairbanks trophy. That was the Heisman before the Heisman. Anyone who wins the Heisman, reserves a spot on the all-time team IMO.
Plus he QB'd Michigan to the 1932 National Championship, and 3 Western Conference Champioships.
He's the forgotten great one. Nobody mentions Harry Newman because he didn't win the Heisman Trophy. Apparently, the university wants people to get educated about Harry since they have a plaque for him at Michigan Stadium- (Sorry about the blur)
December 1st, 2012 at 12:14 AM ^
I know, I can read Wikipedia as well. Point being, why is he YOUR favourite Wolverine QB? You don't have to go all hipster on us finding the obscure and forgotten players just to show how hip you are to be a Michigan fan.
[ x ] Creates many threads per day
[ x ] Creates meaningless all-time lists and depth charts
[ ? ] Is EMO back as Wolverine Devotee?
December 1st, 2012 at 12:23 AM ^
- If you don't like my threads or posts, simply ignore them. It won't hurt my feelings, I promise.
- This is the first "all-time list" I've done. If you mean "depth charts" by the All-Decade teams I posted back over the summer, that was for EA NCAA Football 13 on Teambuilder. You know, you download it and play as them on the game.
I don't play favorites with players. He would be my pick for an all-time team simply because he won an award for being the most outstanding player in the country back then. Simple as that.
November 30th, 2012 at 6:31 PM ^
What? No Jerry Ford?
November 30th, 2012 at 5:08 PM ^
November 30th, 2012 at 5:19 PM ^
Are you kidding.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:26 PM ^
November 30th, 2012 at 5:55 PM ^
"Coach, if you need one yard, I'll get you three yards. If you need five yards, I'll get you three yards."
November 30th, 2012 at 6:07 PM ^
Did he really say this? I love it!
November 30th, 2012 at 11:15 PM ^
That's the definition of a 3rd down back, right there. lol
November 30th, 2012 at 6:23 PM ^
I remeber reading an SI article where Bo mentioned that the trainers had to create special pads called "Bunch protectors" because Jarrod Bunch kept hurting people during blocking drills. So JB gets the nod.
And now I realize that I can't edit/complete my original post. SoullessHack, Jr #2 strikes again.
November 30th, 2012 at 8:57 PM ^
November 30th, 2012 at 7:58 PM ^
November 30th, 2012 at 8:52 PM ^
Brent Muffburger's fave was Garland Rivers. "Best name in college football".
November 30th, 2012 at 8:53 PM ^
November 30th, 2012 at 10:41 PM ^
We had one of each, a Mike and a Mark. Mike D-line, Mark O-line.
November 30th, 2012 at 11:09 PM ^
Unless I am mistaken, Paul Jokisch was a split end, not a tight end.
November 30th, 2012 at 5:16 PM ^
November 30th, 2012 at 5:53 PM ^
November 30th, 2012 at 5:54 PM ^
Juwan Howard?
November 30th, 2012 at 6:30 PM ^
November 30th, 2012 at 10:41 PM ^
Walt Downing