OT - Jared Sullinger Medically Red-Flagged
According to sources through ESPN, Jared Sullinger has been medically red-flagged for the 2012 NBA Draft due to back issues. Probably going to seriously affect his draft position.
http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/8069495/2012-nba-draft-docs…
Never would wish that on a player despite the rivalry.
Throughout all of the rivalry, the kid (and his family) have been pure class. I really hope things work out for him. Maybe he can withdraw from the draft, play another year of college ball, and get a clear bill of health at the end. (but still lose both games to us)
I wonder if this was partially due to the fact that one of his legs is longer than other. This was already concerning some NBA training staffs since it could pose back problems down the road.
Was this because of an injury or was he born with one leg slightly longer?
I believe he was born with it, but not completely sure.
As a Trailblazers fan, I know all too well. Greg Oden's right leg is one inch longer than the left.
As a Trailblazers fan, I know all too well. Greg Oden's right leg is one inch longer than the left.
He let everyone see how long his third leg is.
Has he already officially declared for the draft? After the Burke drama subsided, I kind of stopped paying attention to who was staying and who was going pro. Just wondering whether he could stay at OSU another season to let this pass if it's a big concern.
Also, did anyone else see this part from the end of the article:
In 2009, Pittsburgh's DeJuan Blair was also red flagged by the NBA when medical tests at the NBA combine revealed he didn't have ACL's in either knee.
That had to have been a surprise.
The Spurs took a chance on him, only after their own training staff did an examination on him. I guess they knew something because he has turned into a solid contributor for them.
.. Yeah a solid contributor for them given the situation, but how many minutes did he log in their playoff series against the Thunder? Not many if memory serves....
Blair has the 7th highest total WS of any player in the 2009 draft (he was the 37th overall pick). This is the NBA - only 5-10 players from each draft might become starters or regular contributors.
Yeah, I read that, and to this date I don't think it's had much of an effect on Blair. He's not a starter, but he has made an impact for the Spurs.
Look on the brightside. He'll never tear an ACL.
If a man with no ACLs plays for Purdue, does the world fold in on itself? Is it like dividing by zero?
I don't think so. Despite similar warnings, the Cincinnati Bengals once put a player on the field with no rap sheet and we're all still here.
Blair should have been moved higher instead of being red-flagged. If you don't have an ACL, then it's impossible to sustain an ACL injury. What is wrong with these guys?
Yeah, this is definitely not "music to the ears." This doesn't necessarily mean that he won't be a productive player in the NBA, especially since it's way too early to tell how it's going to affect his career, but at the very least it will affect the cash value teams will be willing to invest on him.
""It pulled on his hip flexor and he's been taking care of it to loosen it. You can call it a red flag if you want. But it's tight hamstring and tight quads. "
Well, considering that tightness or weakness in these areas in these areas can lead to pelvic imbalance, which definitely can lead to back pain, I understand their concern. Oddly enough, from my own sports medicine guy, I heard that this imbalance can be mistaken for a physical difference in leg length. The yoga - particlarly some Thai yoga techniques, I believe - is pretty useful for this, however.
I don't doubt that it affects Sullinger's draft position quite a bit, but there's no reason he can't have a career if he does the correct workouts and manages it now (and keeps it up), I think. If nothing else, it could possibly be managed to a point where he could contribute somewhere, but of course, he could still have issues all the same in time. Pretty disenheartening for him to hear this, I am sure.
I would be 'shocked' if a physiologic limb length discrepancy is a red flag for an NBA team. With all the maseuses, chiros, PTs pro teams have at their disposal, they can realign his pelvis before every practice and game.
Besides, the back pain associted with a limb length discrepancy is just that; back pain (specifically, from the sacroiliac joint). Should not have an effect on accelerated disc degeneration/prone for disc herniations. His height, occupation will be doing that just fine without blaming it on a limb length disc.
Hell, even if it's an anatomic limb length discrep, you can either have a heel lift put in (if < 0.5") or have the heel custom-built (if > 0.5") and things should realign just fine.
Well this wraps up all the suspense...the Pistons will draft him at number 9. That is, of course, if they don't trade up to take him even earlier.
I hope the pistons don't draft him. We need a legitimate center to go with monroe or a good 2 so we can do away with stuckey.
Pretty much.
Greg Monroe is basically in no man's land defensively.
Uber athletic big men, like Ibaka, give him fits because he's relatively unathletic.
Big men who can spread the floor, like Chris Bosh, give him fits because he's not very quick and doesn't run that well.
And bulldogs like Al Jerrferson or Kendrick Perkins give him fits because he's not that strong for his size, so they push him around under the basket.
That's why, IMO, the Pistons would be best served by bringing in an athletic big man, who is a good weakside help defender, who can guard other athetic or floor spacing big men, and cover for Monroe. This frees Greg up to work on getting stronger and just worrying about guarding the low post bigs, rather than having him half assedly try to guard multiple postions.
Whoops.
In my defense, he hasn't been the same guy since he blew out his knee.
More than anything, the Pistons could use an athletic big to compliment Monroe. The last thing they need is an undersized big, who plays well below the rim.
I would rather they take a chance on Perry Jones or John Henson, despite being much bigger risks. Right now, the Pistons seem to be doomed to mediocrity, a.k.a. the NBA's fate worse than death.
John Henson would be a great pick for them.
Last seasons stats:
Player A: 32 min, 14.2 pts, 10.4 reb, 4.7 blk
Player B: 29 min, 13.7 pts, 9.9 reb, 2.9 blk
Player A is Anthony Davis. Player B is John Henson. Clearly Davis is better (especially when you look at %s), but the distance (imo) between "obvious 1st overall pick" and "9th selection" is not warranted. I think Henson would be a great pick at #5, honestly (Davis, Beal, MKG, and T. Robinson ahead of him).
I agree. I think Henson can be a good NBA player. It would be nice if his frame allowed him to put on a bit more weight but I'm not sure he'll ever be a guy with meat on his bones. He will be like Durant or Tayshaun in that he's permanently skinny, but he's a great athlete and Pistons could use the length.
To the surprise of not many; I think the Pistons should draft Royce White.
Didn't watch much Piston basketball this year did ya? In the games Stuckey was healthy he actually had a good year. He and Knight play really well together. Stuckey has gotten a bad rap in Detroit for some reason, but he was the 15th pick in the draft (not a top 5 pick) so I'm not sure what people were expecting out of him.
Sure he's not perfect and he's not a superstar, but he has been infinitely better than most of the players drafted after him. He had 9 games this year where he scored 25+ points which is waaaaay more than anyone drafted after him can say aside from Marc Gasol (and nobody wanted Gasol, he was a late 2nd rounder).
If you are expecting him to be D-Wade, he's not that. But if you want a solid 2-guard he is that. It's not even like he is being overpaid. I will never understand the disdain for Stuckey around here. He's actually been a great role model for BK too. BK was interviewed during a Tigers game last week and said he and Stuckey have been in the gym pushing each other every day since the season ended.
I think the disdain regarding Stuckey doesn't stem from the fact that people don't think he's a good player. It more or less stems from the fact that he seems like one of those guys where, if he's your 2nd or 3rd best player, you're not going to win a whole lot of games.
That, and the fact that he really hasn't improved at all since his second year in the league.
Woosh...........
Edit: Aiming at poster who started this whole Pistons saga by taking the comment about drafting him #9 seriously.
I've been trying to decide if you're serious. If you're a healthcare provider, you've already violated HIPAA with the information in your post... if you're not, then HIPAA doesn't apply to you, so either way, you should go ahead and tell us the rest of your super secret insider information.
Damn Ohio players must make deals with the devil. They will be great players but made of glass. Too bad,hopefully he wont all too far.
Switching gears here.....
Does anybody else think Anthony Davis has a pretty high bust potential? A lot of people have been penciling him in as a lock to be the next number one pick to become a superstar.
I'm not saying there's no chance he'll be everything people are making him out to be, or at the very least, he won't be a good defensive player. I just think he could be one of the bigger draft let downs in recent memory.
I don't know what to think of him. I think he's very raw because he's only been tall for a few years. I believe he was a guard his sophomore year of high school and had a crazy growth spurt. So he's still learning the position. But he's got the wingspan of a pterodactyl. I think he'll be good - but a superstar? Not sure.