Roy Roundtree to wear #21
Per http://www.twitter.com/umichfootball
For everyone bagging on me for my sig, it may not be the #1 jersey but it's the next best thing.
Congrats Roy!
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"I am very pleased that Roy will be wearing the number 21 this year." - @DesmondHoward
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no he shouldnt, 1 is reserved for wr
Good thought. It would probably have to wait till next year, as Vincent Smith is likely to be on kickoff returns and Countess is also a candidate there. If Countess has a good sophomore season then he should be ready for #2.
I think it's funny that the #1 has all the hoopla (thanks to Braylon, some of it ridiculous) and talk about it, but Desmond Howard won the Heisman in #21 and now since it has the patch, it may likely pass #1 as the most important jersey number for WRs.
With that, I would love Denard, or anyone really, to wear #1 sooner or later, just to get the monkey off all our backs. Everyone has opinions, and some complicated criteria about who deserves to win the number. It just needs to go back to being a number for very good players, not just something that we hold for players we think are going to be literally legendary.
21 > 1
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EDIT: Opps wrong thread, but I will still spread the news to you all!
And just because Desmond won the Heisman and AC didn't (AC was a finalist), that doesn't automatically mean Desmond was the better player. Some years the competition for the Heisman is stronger than others. They were both incredible players.
Roy Roundtree will make Desmond Howard proud. The NUMBER 1 jersey should go to the best PLAYMAKING WR! The NUMBER 2 jersey should go to the BEST CB who can also make some plays on offense to! GO BLUE!!!
I'm also in favor of Denard turning #16 into a Legend.
I have my favorites, of course, but I'm not going to debate one Legend over another. They all played different roles, in different eras, but each one was special to the program at the time. Hell, Kramer's number was retired after his senior season, before he graduated.
In Jon Falk's book, he recalls Bo telling him to give the #1 jersey to Anthony Carter. He was a prized recruit and was going to a good one.
First off, Brayon didn't make the #1 jersey thing a huge deal. It already was a huge deal. RR made a pretty bonehead move and gave it to a freshman DB. Somebody needed to tell RR the mistake, and Braylon did that. He also created the huge scholarship with ties to the number. Those are all fine in my book. He brought attention to it with that stroy - but that story isn't what suddently made the #1 jersey a huge deal.
My views on this have evolved with the changing legacy #'s. Now, I'd love to see:
#21 go to the team's best WR, as long as he is also a great leader and oozes Michigan. Not every year, but about 1/2 the time maybe.
#1 - give it to Denard. Give it to clearly a team's legend player/leader. Once every four years or so. Usually to a senior. To a player that will live in Michigan legend. I now accept this change for the jersey. Brayon agree. I think this would be fun.
#2 - best DB, same every couple years or so (same as #21)
as for the other numbers, we'll have difficulites for players wearing #'s not assigned to their position. Does anyone know if the NCAA can make exceptions for this besides players who play multiple positions?
I, for one, would love to see a RB wearing #98. That would be awesome. I have a feeling that young RB's would love it too. They would be the only player in the country like that - much better than wearing their standard #32, or what not. That would eventually be a nice draw to high school RB's. The completely unique and legendary #98.
I don't think the NCAA has any rules on jersey numbers for positions. The NFL I know for a fact does have it.
I think they do for offensive linemen. Other than that I think it's a free-for-all.
Braylon was the only player who ever had to "earn the No. 1 jersey". Everyone else who wore the jersey just had it given to them as a freshman. So while the guys who wore the jerseys did some pretty productive things while wearing it, it was never how it is now. Braylon came in cocky and Lloyd used handing it out as a motivational tool, that's all
I think that if you now wear the #21 with the Desmond patch its as prestigious as the #1.
Just out of curiosity, what number did Taco Pants where? Is his jersey in retirement?
Hoke should tell treadwell that 1 or 21 is saved for him, too
We don't need booby prize numbers, this is Michigan for God sakes!
Should the number 77 be designated as a Legend jersey? Jake Long was an absolute wall at his position. Maybe the best O-lineman, should get to wear 77.
Doesn't a whole bunch of special numbers make them all less special? The 1 jersey was enough. The reason it became a "thing" is because we had a run of really good WR with that number, the exception being Butterfield. It went to a freshman, and either he lived up to it or didn't.
Great Michigan receivers who didn't wear the #1 jersey: Super Mario, Marquise Walker, Amani Toomer, Steve Breaston, Jason Avant, Tai Streets...... (list not comprehensive)
Didn't Derrick Alexander wear the #1? Did he get it as a freshman?
or was he just looking in the mirror & got confused?
Just a thought, but were I a receiver right now expected to lead this team and step up in a big way, I'd be much more inclined to wear 21, which, I mean, who can't think of JR accepting the MVP in the sugar bowl? Almost seems like everyone but Braylon is avoiding the #1 like the plague. Which is great, in my opinion. Don't make yourself a target. Not to mention, while Braylon was great on the field as a Wolverine, he's devolved into a total diva. His whole scholarship thing is essentially useless, and I hope eventually it gets overhauled.
Hope Roy steps it up big time next year! We need it. Great guy.
Roy Roundtree is 12. He's been 12 since he got here. Instead of giving him 21, he should keep 12 and have a season that makes 12 a "Michigan Legend."
I like the idea, but Roundtree has worn 12 for 3 years and established himself at that number. If he had made the switch last year, I would understand.
I like the Legends number and think it should be used more in recruiting and given out to outstanding freshmen or sophomore performers (before they really establish their own Michigan identity). But sometimes you have to make room for new legends.
Congrats to Roy! I hope Denard wears #1 and Blake gets #2! My votes are in!
Interesting that the 21 is considered a step below the #1 jersey when the player who wore #21 won the Heisman and was the better player. Braylon is doing a better job of marketing than Desmond and he needs to give Anthony Carter more pub for this jersey getting this much attention.
Why do you consider Desmond a better player than Carter? Don't forget that Carter held all of our career receiving records until Braylon (who played in a much more open offense) finally broke them 20+ years later.
I don't think you can evaluate different players just based on the awards they won. Chris Perry is our only tailback to win the Doak Walter Award, but I wouldn't consider him our best back of all time. He just happened to be the leading vote-getter in his particular year.
I know I'm going to get neg banged for this comment, but if it were me I would want the #21 jersey more because of Desmond.
Congrats!
How about #7 for Rick Leach and Chad Henne? To me, #7 is THE number every QB at Michigan should want to wear and further it's legacy.
Henne currently holds every passing record in the single season and career categories.
Rick Leach was the first QB ever at Michigan to start as a freshman, and was a great speedy one too.
Hopefully that gigantic ugly ass patch won't clash with the argyle pattern maize and blue Oregon rips-offs he'll be wearing this year.