Composite 2013 FB Recruit Rankings

Submitted by turd ferguson on

Having done something similar last year, I just combined the Scout, Rivals, and 247 football recruit rankings into one.  The purpose is to help sort through the confusion that comes from seeing three different rankings for each kid.  I provide a little analysis below the rankings, but I’ll leave the rest to you.

What to know about how I did this:

I started with the Scout 300, Rivals 250, and 247’s top 247 and removed all of the prospects who were ranked by only one of them.  Therefore, every prospect below appeared on at least two of those three lists.  The reasons for this are that: (1) it keeps the rankings to a manageable size and (2) if only one site really likes a prospect, it might just be an outlier.

If a kid was ranked by two services but not the third, I imputed a ranking for the third service.  To do this, I added 100 to the lowest ranking provided by that service.  In other words, a kid who wasn’t ranked in Scout’s top 300 received a Scout ranking of 400; a kid who wasn’t ranked in Rivals’ top 250 received a Rivals ranking of 350; and a kid who wasn’t ranked in 247’s top 247 received a 247 rank of 347.

I took one more step before finding the average ranking for each prospect.  I incorporated the median ranking across those three services.  Therefore, a prospect’s mean ranking, which is the basis of these rankings, comes from an average of his real/imputed Scout ranking, Rivals ranking, 247 ranking, and the median of the three.  I added the median to mitigate the effect that one outlier ranking would have on a prospect’s mean.

Okay, enough with that. 

Edit: I just added position rankings.  Note that I used the positions listed by Scout.
 

The rankings:

        Scout Rivals 247 med (avg)
1 Robert Nkemdiche DE-1   1 1 1 1 1
2 Reuben Foster MLB-1 Alabama 2 2 2 2 2
3 Laremy Tunsil OT-1   4 3 4 4 3.75
4 Max Browne QB-1   5 8 5 5 5.75
5 Vernon Hargreaves III CB-1   6 10 3 6 6.25
6 Su'a Cravens S-1   9 5 9 9 8
7 Thomas Tyner RB-1 Oregon 20 9 10 10 12.25
8 Robert Foster WR-1   3 26 11 11 12.75
9 Kenny Bigelow DT-1 USC 29 6 13 13 15.25
10 Matthew Thomas OLB-1   18 12 16 16 15.5
10 Montravius Adams DT-2   11 33 7 11 15.5
12 Ricky Seals-Jones WR-2 Texas 8 13 32 13 16.5
13 Jaylon Smith OLB-2   16 34 6 16 18
14 Kendall Fuller CB-2   31 4 19 19 18.25
15 Shane Morris QB-2 Michigan 28 16 14 16 18.5
16 Ty Isaac RB-2   13 18 28 18 19.25
17 Derrick Henry RB-3 Georgia 19 29 12 19 19.75
18 Dee Liner DT-3 Auburn 12 42 17 17 22
19 Derrick Griffin WR-3 Texas A&M 30 19 22 22 23.25
20 Adam Breneman TE-1 Penn State 22 22 29 22 23.75
21 Joey Bosa DE-2   24 14 37 24 24.75
22 Eddie Vanderdoes DT-4   15 21 43 21 25
23 Tyrone Swoopes QB-3 Texas 10 11 70 11 25.5
24 Antonio Conner S-2   7 38 33 33 27.75
25 Jalin Marshall RB-4 Ohio State 34 41 8 34 29.25
25 Michael Hutchings OLB-3   27 17 46 27 29.25
27 Kent Perkins OT-2 Texas 52 25 20 25 30.5
28 E.J. Levenberry OLB-4   80 15 21 21 34.25
29 Cameron Burrows CB-3 Ohio State 74 7 30 30 35.25
30 O.J. Howard TE-2 Alabama 36 35 49 36 39
31 Altee Tenpenny RB-5 Alabama 83 20 27 27 39.25
32 Jake Raulerson OT-3 Texas 42 51 25 42 40
33 Max Redfield S-3   62 30 35 35 40.5
34 Keith Ford RB-6 Oklahoma 14 113 18 18 40.75
35 Stacy Coley WR-4   41 45 56 45 46.75
36 Dymonte Thomas S-4 Michigan 35 77 40 40 48
37 Mackensie Alexander CB-4   71 56 15 56 49.5
38 Kyle Bosch OT-4 Michigan 49 60 42 49 50
39 Ethan Pocic OT-5   57 27 60 57 50.25
39 Marquez North WR-5   73 24 52 52 50.25
41 Leon McQuay S-5   96 32 39 39 51.5
42 A'Shawn Robinson DT-5 Texas 43 69 50 50 53
43 Greg Bryant RB-7   59 23 73 59 53.5
44 Darius James C-1 Texas 48 92 36 48 56
45 Justin Manning DT-6   21 89 59 59 57
46 Jake Oliver WR-6 Texas 53 61 58 58 57.5
47 Steven Elmer OT-6 Notre Dame 99 49 44 49 60.25
48 Laquon Treadwell WR-7   76 31 75 75 64.25
49 Derwin Gray OT-7   61 105 34 61 65.25
50 Isaiah Golden DT-7 Texas A&M 54 63 85 63 66.25
51 Ahmad Fulwood WR-8   69 59 72 69 67.25
51 Kailo Moore RB-8   66 74 65 66 67.75
53 Chris Fox OG-1 Michigan 137 46 47 47 69.25
54 Kylie Fitts DE-3   75 81 51 75 70.5
55 Eli Woodard CB-5 Ohio State 90 28 83 83 71
56 ArDarius Stewart WR-9 Alabama 85 75 53 75 72
56 Isaac Savaiinaea MLB-2   23 155 55 55 72
58 Henry Poggi DT-8   134 43 66 66 77.25
58 Steven Mitchell WR-10   81 52 95 81 77.25
60 Daniel McMillian MLB-3 Florida 51 53 157 53 78.5
61 James Quick WR-11   26 194 48 48 79
62 Justin Davis RB-9   17 48 209 48 80.5
62 Marcell Harris S-6   201 39 41 41 80.5
64 Patrick Kugler OG-2 Michigan 25 54 190 54 80.75
65 Kelvin Taylor RB-10 Florida 91 111 31 91 81
66 Jonathan Allen DE-4   102 100 23 100 81.25
67 Tray Matthews S-7 Georgia 104 65 82 82 83.25
68 Greg Webb DT-9   77 78 102 78 83.75
69 Alquadin Muhammad OLB-5   86 139 26 86 84.25
70 Greg Gilmore DT-10   46 112 90 90 84.5
71 Kendell Beckwith OLB-6   55 158 64 64 85.25
72 Isaac Rochell DE-5   97 73 87 87 86
73 J.T. Barrett QB-4   89 134 38 89 87.5
74 Priest Willis S-8   33 84 155 84 89
75 Austin Golson OT-8 Florida State 125 57 92 92 91.5
75 Elijah Daniel DE-6   40 116 105 105 91.5
77 Hunter Henry TE-3   65 115 97 97 93.5
78 Ryan Green RB-11   135 90 78 90 98.25
79 Tyren Jones RB-12 Alabama 98 137 61 98 98.5
80 Kelsey Griffin DT-11   101 120 74 101 99
81 Darrell Daniels WR-12   39 170 94 94 99.25
82 Aaron Bailey QB-5   105 128 62 105 100
83 Derrick Green RB-13   124 64 108 108 101
84 Cooper Bateman QB-6   56 129 110 110 101.25
84 Dashon Hunt CB-6 UCLA 108 58 131 108 101.25
86 Larenz Bryant OLB-7   132 95 86 95 102
87 Kevin Olsen QB-7   118 131 45 118 103
88 Tim Kimbrough MLB-4   115 119 69 115 104.5
89 Dorian O'Daniel OLB-8   152 37 119 119 106.75
89 Shelton Gibson WR-13   130 103 91 103 106.75
91 Desean Smith TE-4   209 55 84 84 108
92 Tim Williams DE-7   107 144 77 107 108.75
93 Vonn Bell S-9   32 350 24 32 109.5
94 D.J. Ward DE-8   38 99 204 99 110
95 Dontre Wilson RB-14   70 186 93 93 110.5
96 Kameron Miles S-10   100 86 158 100 111
97 Logan Tuley-Tillman OT-9 Michigan 153 109 89 109 115
98 John Diarse S-11   128 66 140 128 115.5
99 Brice Ramsey QB-8 Georgia 63 249 79 79 117.5
100 Holland Fisher OLB-9 Virginia Tech 190 72 107 107 119
101 Marcus Baugh TE-5   154 114 98 114 120
102 Michael Hill DT-12   110 70 197 110 121.75
103 Troy Williams QB-9   188 71 115 115 122.25
104 Cole Luke CB-7   113 198 67 113 122.75
105 Tramel Terry WR-14 Georgia 106 127 145 127 126.25
106 Rickey Jefferson WR-15   157 104 125 125 127.75
107 Chans Cox MLB-5   148 40 178 148 128.5
108 Ryan Burns QB-10 Stanford 280 47 101 101 132.25
108 Sebastian LaRue WR-16   47 141 200 141 132.25
110 Ishmael Wilson OT-10 Texas A&M 171 143 80 143 134.25
111 Tyrone Crowder OG-3   72 350 54 72 137
112 Marcus Farria DE-9   119 179 129 129 139
113 Christian Hackenberg QB-11 Penn State 183 153 68 153 139.25
114 Nick Washington S-12 Florida 232 94 116 116 139.5
115 William Likely CB-8   225 79 128 128 140
116 Jaynard Bostwick DT-13   44 85 347 85 140.25
117 Trey Johnson OLB-10 Auburn 248 36 139 139 140.5
118 Carl Lawson DE-10   180 91 149 149 142.25
119 Malik Zaire QB-12   181 136 117 136 142.5
120 Billy Price DT-14 Ohio State 111 130 205 130 144
121 Tahaan Goodman S-13   67 150 212 150 144.75
122 Demarcus Walker DE-11   206 152 71 152 145.25
122 Evan Lisle OT-11 Ohio State 68 83 347 83 145.25
122 Jalen Ramsey CB-9   197 135 114 135 145.25
125 Michael McCray OLB-11 Michigan 202 44 168 168 145.5
126 Cody Thomas QB-13   162 178 88 162 147.5
127 Demarcus Robinson WR-17   192 97 153 153 148.75
127 Peter Kalambayi MLB-6   93 62 347 93 148.75
129 Tyshon Dye RB-15   123 187 144 144 149.5
130 Cornelius Elder RB-16   168 164 118 164 153.5
130 David Williams RB-17   120 192 151 151 153.5
132 Chris Hawkins CB-10   92 159 214 159 156
133 Joe Mathis DE-12   94 93 347 94 157
134 Alvin Kamara RB-18   109 350 63 109 157.75
135 Tashawn Bower DE-13   142 250 100 142 158.5
136 Artie Burns CB-11 Alabama 170 166 142 166 161
137 Jason Hatcher DE-14   37 221 194 194 161.5
138 Johnny Johnson CB-12   87 173 218 173 162.75
139 Garrett Sickels DE-15 Penn State 271 50 169 169 164.75
140 Taquan Mizzell RB-19   255 87 163 163 167
141 Kohl Stewart QB-14 Texas A&M 207 181 112 181 170.25
142 Jamar Gibson WR-18 Texas A&M 112 350 109 112 170.75
143 Jacorey Warrick WR-19 Texas 95 350 121 121 171.75
144 Jeryl Brazil CB-13 LSU 195 175 148 175 173.25
145 Wyatt Shallman FB-1 Michigan 179 160 187 179 176.25
146 Tarean Folston RB-20   184 174 174 174 176.5
147 Devon Allen WR-20   131 110 347 131 179.75
148 Tim Harris CB-14   294 161 104 161 180
149 Grant Hill OG-4 Alabama 139 350 96 139 181
150 Ashton Shumpert RB-21   114 350 132 132 182
151 Jake Butt TE-6 Michigan 147 96 347 147 184.25
152 Torrodney Prevot DE-16   84 350 152 152 184.5
153 Reeve Koehler OG-5   400 67 137 137 185.25
154 Aaron Cochran OT-12   400 98 127 127 188
155 Jamal Carter S-14   161 197 202 197 189.25
156 Riley Norman OT-13   196 225 141 196 189.5
157 Hunter Bivin OT-14   167 350 76 167 190
157 Kyle Hicks RB-22 Texas 116 350 147 147 190
159 Shaq Wiggins CB-15 Georgia 141 350 135 141 191.75
160 Khalfani Muhammad RB-23   400 108 130 130 192
161 Marcus Newby OLB-12   158 350 103 158 192.25
162 Earnest Robinson WR-21 Auburn 213 101 243 213 192.5
163 A.J. Turman RB-24   400 133 106 133 193
163 Tyree Robinson WR-22   400 124 124 124 193
165 Jordan Sherit DE-17   400 76 150 150 194
166 Johnny O'Neal MLB-7   172 88 347 172 194.75
167 Erik Bunte OT-15   240 206 133 206 196.25
168 Eldridge Massington WR-23   177 245 183 183 197
168 Kerrick Huggins DT-15 Texas A&M 133 154 347 154 197
170 Matthew Alviti QB-15   151 210 224 210 198.75
171 Kenny Lacy OT-16   164 122 347 164 199.25
172 Stanvon Taylor CB-16   246 188 177 188 199.75
173 Josh Banderas OLB-13   295 185 143 185 202
174 Taj Williams WR-24   203 177 227 203 202.5
175 Laquvionte Gonzalez RB-25 Texas A&M 237 151 213 213 203.5
176 Darius Latham DT-16   208 350 57 208 205.75
176 Nadir Barnwell CB-17   286 207 123 207 205.75
178 Nico Falah OT-17   45 216 347 216 206
179 John Montelus OG-6   50 214 347 214 206.25
179 Tony Stevens WR-25 Florida State 155 350 160 160 206.25
181 TraVon Chapman QB-16   191 106 347 191 208.75
182 Standish Dobard TE-7   79 208 347 208 210.5
183 Jayron Kearse OLB-14 Miami (Fl) 60 218 347 218 210.75
184 Johnathon McCrary QB-17 Vanderbilt 400 80 182 182 211
185 Nick Ramirez MLB-8   216 241 173 216 211.5
186 David Dawson OG-7 Michigan 264 199 196 199 214.5
187 Taco Charlton DE-18 Michigan 400 183 99 183 216.25
188 Jamel James RB-26 Arkansas 166 350 179 179 218.5
188 Ra'Shaad Samples WR-26   145 191 347 191 218.5
190 Daeshon Hall DE-19 Texas 140 350 193 193 219
191 L.J. Moore CB-18   205 223 233 223 221
192 John Lopez OG-8   289 126 238 238 222.75
193 Evan Voeller OT-18   200 145 347 200 223
194 Denver Kirkland OG-9   156 195 347 195 223.25
195 Doug Randolph OLB-15 Stanford 400 68 221 221 227.5
196 Matt Rolin OLB-16   230 350 111 230 230.25
197 Bucky Hodges QB-18   400 202 126 202 232.5
197 Sefo Liufau QB-19   400 196 138 196 232.5
199 De'Asian Richardson DT-17   212 350 161 212 233.75
200 James Hearns MLB-9 Florida 400 157 191 191 234.75
201 Michael Parker WR-27   238 117 347 238 235
202 Brandon Kublanow OG-10   273 243 184 243 235.75
203 Mike Williams WR-28   126 350 234 234 236
204 John Ross WR-29   217 350 166 217 237.5
205 Ben Gedeon OLB-17   159 224 347 224 238.5
206 Marcus McWilson S-15 Nebraska 233 142 347 233 238.75
207 Chase Abbington OLB-18 Missouri 193 350 207 207 239.25
208 Devin Lauderdale WR-30 Texas Tech 275 193 245 245 239.5
209 Alex Anzalone OLB-19   149 350 231 231 240.25
210 Jason Smith QB-20   229 350 154 229 240.5
211 Caleb Brantley DT-18 Florida 270 82 347 270 242.25
212 Alvin Bailey WR-31   400 138 219 219 244
212 Wayne Gallman RB-27   235 350 156 235 244
214 Wyatt Teller DT-19   400 168 206 206 245
215 Fred Ross WR-32 Oklahoma State 210 213 347 213 245.75
216 Lowell Loutlelei DT-20   272 244 230 244 247.5
217 Alex Collins RB-28 Miami (Fl) 252 147 347 252 249.5
218 Rodney Adams WR-33 Florida 290 234 239 239 250.5
219 Antwuan Davis CB-19   243 171 347 243 251
220 Tre'Davious White CB-20 LSU 400 215 175 215 251.25
221 Jourdan Lewis CB-21 Michigan 251 167 347 251 254
221 Mike Heuerman TE-8   228 350 210 228 254
221 Nazair Jones DE-20   400 240 136 240 254
224 Antonio Allen S-16   245 180 347 245 254.25
224 Marcell Ateman WR-34   265 140 347 265 254.25
226 Demorea Stringfellow WR-35   283 107 347 283 255
226 Jeremy Cutrer S-17 LSU 241 350 188 241 255
226 Tyrell Robinson S-18   400 228 164 228 255
226 Vita Vea DT-21   400 237 146 237 255
230 Hayden Rettig QB-21   277 123 347 277 256
230 Noel Ellis CB-22   254 169 347 254 256
232 Jeremy Johnson QB-22   218 350 232 232 258
233 Tyler Bruggman QB-23   222 232 347 232 258.25
234 Donovan Munger DT-22   220 350 237 237 261
235 Jon Reschke OLB-20 Michigan State 239 350 222 239 262.5
236 Na'Ty Rodgers OT-19   400 231 192 231 263.5
237 Deon Martin RB-29   297 350 113 297 264.25
237 Raheem Falkins WR-36 Alabama 400 211 223 223 264.25
239 D.J. Park OT-20 South Carolina 219 350 247 247 265.75
240 Nigel Bowden MLB-10   400 235 198 235 267
241 Brogan Roback QB-24   274 189 347 274 271
241 Darian Hicks CB-23   281 350 172 281 271
243 Brett Wade MLB-11   400 239 215 239 273.25
244 Kenny Hill QB-25   291 165 347 291 273.5
245 Cameron Walker CB-24   267 350 216 267 275
245 Marquez Grayson RB-30   257 350 236 257 275
247 Christian Morgan TE-9   269 222 347 269 276.75
247 Joshua Outlaw OG-11   296 350 165 296 276.75
249 Frank Herron DE-21   282 350 199 282 278.25
250 Jake Thomas OT-21   276 350 220 276 280.5
251 Jake Campos OT-22   292 204 347 292 283.75
252 Adam Taylor RB-31   285 247 347 285 291
253 David Kenney DE-22   299 238 347 299 295.75


Notes:

Michigan currently has commitments from:

#15 Shane Morris (#2 QB)
#36 Dymonte Thomas (#4 S)
#38 Kyle Bosch (#4 OT)
#53 Chris Fox (#1 OG)
#64 Patrick Kugler (#2 OG)
#97 Logan Tuley-Tillman (#9 OT)
#125 Michael McCray (#11 OLB)
#145 Wyatt Shallman (#1 FB)
#151 Jake Butt (#6 TE)
#186 David Dawson (#7 OG)
#187 Taco Charlton (#18 DE)
#221 Jourdan Lewis (#21 CB)

Gareon Conley and Jaron Dukes aren’t listed because they were only ranked by one service (Scout).  Khalid Hill isn’t currently ranked by any of them.

Here are the programs with the most commitments from this group - along with Big Ten programs (& Notre Dame) with at least one commitment:

Michigan – 12
Texas – 10 (but very top-heavy)
Alabama – 8
Texas A&M – 7
Florida – 6
Georgia – 5
Ohio State – 5
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Penn State – 3
Michigan State – 1
Notre Dame – 1


Let me know if anything seems wrong or strange.

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Comments

Dailysportseditor

March 11th, 2012 at 12:20 AM ^

A quick perusal of the list indicates it is highly likely M ends up with the top-rated OLine in the country.  There are only 12 elite offensive linemen (in top 200) available with rankings above M's lowest ranked commitment.  Texas may end up closest with 3 top-ranked linemen so far.  I like our chances to now recruit one of the few remaining RB's in the top 100.

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cbishop

March 11th, 2012 at 10:14 AM ^

I must admit, that i am quite impressed with the work. That had to take quite a bit of time to complete.

But anyways, it is so great to see how this class is shaping up to be. Realistically, i think we have a great shot at landing SEVERAL more prospects on that list (Ty Isaac, Eddie Vanderdoes?, EJ Levenberry, Laquon Treadwell, Henry Poggi, Dorian O'Daniel, Devon Allen, Ben Gedeon, Donovan Munger) with a more outside shot with (S'ua Cravens, Kendall Fuller, and Joe Mathis).

I would throw in some others (Ethan Pocic, Preist Willis, Cory Luke, and Darian Hicks) but at this time i would have to believe we are probably full at those positions.

That was just a quick run through...anybody i miss?

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Hardware Sushi

March 11th, 2012 at 10:32 AM ^

Good job, I remember this from last year. It's a really nice way to just look at the overall ranking instead of saying "well he's ranked this on this site but that on that site blah blah."

Do you plan to update these as the services update their rankings?

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turd ferguson

March 11th, 2012 at 1:57 PM ^

I'll probably do it again after the summer camps but before these kids' senior seasons. Truthfully, part of the reason that I posted this now is that ESPN hasn't released rankings yet, sparing us the "Are ESPN's rankings worthless?" debate.
It doesn't take as long as you might think with software that enables you to quickly merge different data sets and execute a few commands, but it would be nice if the sites all used the same spelling of the prospects' names.

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Mr.Mario86

March 11th, 2012 at 1:23 PM ^

This is very nice & really puts things into perspective on where kids really sit right now. I'm sure this is really time consuming so thanks for posting man.

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AlphaBlue

March 11th, 2012 at 2:08 PM ^

Should have its own thread but I don't have enough points.

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Very cool wristbands and supports our own guys!

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BrokenRhino

March 12th, 2012 at 11:34 AM ^

This is really great. work. I am going to be sending this to my phone in excel to pull up everytime a recruit is mentioned as having interest in Michigan. Great reference. 

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sundaybluedysunday

March 12th, 2012 at 12:51 PM ^

Great post. Have you considered having two lists, one with outliers removed and one without? For example, Texas' QB commit Swoopes is criminally underrated by 247 and that's really affecting his ranking. I think it would shake things up.

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turd ferguson

March 12th, 2012 at 8:24 PM ^

That's a good question.  My position on this is that when you only have three observations, you really don't want to throw away any data -- and it's kind of strange to talk about outliers to begin with.  I put the median in there to try to limit the impact of the most extreme values, but they obviously still have an effect (rightly so, in my view).

You can get a decent feel for how much of an effect they have by using different values when you're taking the mean.  Take, for example, Tyrone Swoopes, the kid you mentioned whom 247 isn't crazy about.  If everyone else's rankings stayed the same (they wouldn't), then Swoopes would be ranked:

  • #23 using my method (using mean of 10-11-70-11)
  • #7 without 247's extreme ranking (mean of 10-11)
  • #27 using my method without the median (mean of 10-11-70)

Again, my view is that knowing that one service doesn't like a prospect as much as the other services do gives us useful information that shouldn't be dropped, but that's just my view.

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justingoblue

March 13th, 2012 at 5:56 PM ^

If you're posting from Excel, a simple copy/paste will do the trick. However, if you make any errors, be prepared to have to correct them in Excel and copy/paste again due to the formatting being a little different when you try to edit on MGoBlog.

The tables look a little different than the ones you can create here, but I think they look fine. If you want a preview of what they look like, you can take a look at any of my diaries compared to, say, the UFR's Brian does.

Excel style table:
http://mgoblog.com/diaries/michigan-wolverines-and-their-championship-t…

MGoTable:
http://mgoblog.com/content/upon-further-review-2011-offense-vs-osu

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