Hello: Patrick Kugler
February 25th, 2012 at 10:24 AM ^
Dad's the Steelers OL coach? Ya... I think this guy is going to be good.
February 25th, 2012 at 10:34 AM ^
I guess it's safe to say he has had a day of quality offensive line coaching.
February 25th, 2012 at 10:24 AM ^
Poor Sparty. Another 4 star O-Line commit makes Hott Karl a happy boy.
February 25th, 2012 at 10:29 AM ^
At this rate they will have to take their national recruiting to hawaii
February 25th, 2012 at 10:25 AM ^
Hmmmmm... what will Hoke & Co. do with Pocic cmmits too? Welcome Mr. Kugler!
February 25th, 2012 at 10:26 AM ^
This bodes well for the health of the OL over the length of the season. That pro style substitution thing is going to happen here.
Go Blue!
February 25th, 2012 at 11:04 AM ^
On running plays...
February 25th, 2012 at 11:29 AM ^
for an Avatar. Not as cool as Snoopy on his Doghouse, but I can live with that.
February 25th, 2012 at 10:28 AM ^
So how are we going to fill out the class today? haha... I kid. Welcome Patrick!
February 25th, 2012 at 10:31 AM ^
4* OL commit and a Garmin win at Omloop! This day has started off well.
February 25th, 2012 at 11:18 AM ^
Seriously though, remember when Tommeke was invincible? February 25th, 2012 at 10:31 AM ^
Welcome Patrick. This is a great pickup. As a few others have said above, we have heard via sources (commits, sam webb, etc.) that the coaches PLAN to take 5 OL. What happens with a situation like Pocic, for instance, now? Do you turn down a commitment from a player like him or do you (as a coach) shift your recruiting numbers a bit. I would be very interested to hear answers from of the knowledgeable football members (who know far more than me), such as Magnus, etc.
February 25th, 2012 at 10:35 AM ^
February 25th, 2012 at 10:39 AM ^
Would Pocic want to commit with 5 already committed? I hope the other 4 don't get freaked out and bolt, committing this early gives plenty of time for someone to swoop in.
February 25th, 2012 at 10:48 AM ^
there could always be a switch from the OL to the DL. all good!
February 25th, 2012 at 11:02 AM ^
Does anyone know if *potential* position switches from this years (2012) OL class would/could have an effect on next years (2013). As far as the discussion of Kugler-center, still bringing in Pocic, etc. goes...
February 25th, 2012 at 10:57 AM ^
committing this early gives plenty of time for someone to swoop in
True enough ... but I have to believe Hoke and staff have that angle understood and work their golden poop magic as part of the process of keeping them committed.
February 25th, 2012 at 11:14 AM ^
Agreed. The staff will continue recruiting the kids who commit all they way until signing day. They will also keep up their relationships with guys like Tunsil, Pocic and McGovern in case one guy does decommit, or we have more attrition or an open slot comes available by February (2013).
February 25th, 2012 at 11:00 AM ^
I think your point about attrition is probably more important than a lot of us consider initially. The coaches have much more information (obviously) on the state of each player (who is coming/going, injury, motivation, etc.). I agree that I think they would first make sure all of their needs were filled (or able to be filled, number-wise), before taking additional spots at any given position.
I think I am still unable to comprehend that perhaps, just maybe, our OL depth issues of the past 3 years may be put to rest (moving forward). We may again be looking at a situation where the OL (even the most talented) are able to take that redshirt year to bulk up and learn the offense before (hopefully) getting in a rotation, then the 2-deep, and then eventually start.
EDIT: Intended as a response to sak2351 above
February 25th, 2012 at 10:38 AM ^
We are playing with house money now. Can sit back with five excellent guys in the fold and if later in the process a a top guy wants to commit we will likely make room for him. They used to call this the catbird seat = Sweet!
February 25th, 2012 at 10:32 AM ^
And somewhere in a dark place, Coach Dantonio cries himself to sleep....
Welcome to the family, Patrick!
/ 4 star mafia
/ My granny could lead the B1G running behind these guys.
/ and she has a walker....
February 25th, 2012 at 10:32 AM ^
Works for me.
February 25th, 2012 at 10:33 AM ^
I'll get started on the statue of him that will inevitably be built.
February 25th, 2012 at 10:34 AM ^
I still have concerns. For example...
...uh...
I HAVE NO CONCERNS THIS IS AWESOME.
February 25th, 2012 at 10:54 AM ^
Given all weekend to brainstorm some concerns, we'll invent some.
So anyways, I was just thinking about how the '97 season could have been better.
February 25th, 2012 at 11:03 AM ^
If we had started stronger against Iowa, I wouldn't have passed out before the game ended.
February 25th, 2012 at 12:24 PM ^
when I think about how we punted right to Tim Dwight before halftime and he did his thing on us. Why didn't we just kick it out of bounds? ARRRRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!! That really pisses me off. The rest of the season only sort of makes up for it.
February 25th, 2012 at 10:36 AM ^
i would venture to say we now have one of the best o-line classes in history over the past two recruiting cycles. And, to me, the crazy thing is all but one are from the midwest and they are all guys who are legit D-1 starters on pretty much any team.
February 25th, 2012 at 10:37 AM ^
Rivals #54 player in the country....too sweet. Dad the Steelers OL coach...too sweet. Sparty Jr. day having one less attendee...too sweet.
February 25th, 2012 at 10:40 AM ^
February 25th, 2012 at 10:44 AM ^
That explains why some of their recruits treat humans as second class citizens.
February 25th, 2012 at 11:40 AM ^
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February 25th, 2012 at 11:17 AM ^
thats the funniest damn thing ive seen in awhile! lol nice job
February 25th, 2012 at 11:16 AM ^
I laughed so hard my son started laughing with me and did not even know why. Joy is contagious.
February 25th, 2012 at 10:40 AM ^
FWIW, he was #1 on BSD's target list for o-linemen.
http://www.blackshoediaries.com/2012/2/23/2812856/penn-state-recruiting-roundup#storyjump
February 25th, 2012 at 10:58 AM ^
Technically yes, actually no. They say at the top of the board "(Recruits listed in no particular order...yet)"
February 25th, 2012 at 10:40 AM ^
that will pop up on RCMB later...
February 25th, 2012 at 11:13 AM ^
This is my favorite:
Somebody please let me know when U-M and OSU have everyone they want so that I can start paying attention to the kids we have a chance of actually seen playing for the Green and White.
February 25th, 2012 at 11:16 AM ^
Ah, back to normal.
February 25th, 2012 at 12:06 PM ^
"Wow. This is unbelievable I try to refrain from posting in such threads, but this is looking bad. It's like USC recruiting against Little Sisters of the Poor. Hoke is absolutely having his way with us right now. Even when Lloyd was here and we had JLS, we at least got these kids to give us a look. What Hoke is doing to Dantonio on the recruiting trail is absolute murder."
Hoke uber alles.
February 25th, 2012 at 12:27 PM ^
I almost like the Schadenfreude more than getting the recruits themselves, almost.
The disgust on the RCMB is rich, decadent you could say. And seeing Jon L. recruiting comparisons get worked into the mix...well this is a symphony green and white pain.
February 25th, 2012 at 11:28 AM ^
love it when theyre past denial and can only admit to getting owned
February 25th, 2012 at 12:10 PM ^
Your avatar is completely relevant in this thread, not only because of Sparty's tears of unfathomable sadness, but because that episode was just on 10 minutes ago.
February 25th, 2012 at 10:47 AM ^
You're a tad slow on the draw there:
http://michiganstate.247sports.com/Board/93/Per-his-Twitter-account-Pat…
February 25th, 2012 at 10:48 AM ^
Ah, delicious irony.