January 4th, 2012 at 11:28 PM ^
January 5th, 2012 at 12:25 AM ^
"my clemson friends have vanished. I win"
I already said "yeah you did" out loud before I read what you actually wrote.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:58 AM ^
I want you to know I love your signature.
#HokeisAmerica
January 5th, 2012 at 11:20 AM ^
I live to serve.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:02 AM ^
Clemson beat VT twice...I don't like this win for WV
January 5th, 2012 at 8:06 AM ^
For Michigan's sake, why does it matter that West Virginia beat Clemson?
You do realize that Syracuse thrashed West Virginia 49-23?
January 5th, 2012 at 8:12 AM ^
Sparty fans keep bringing that up, also. We beat two teams they lost to...
January 5th, 2012 at 9:35 AM ^
My facebook news feed was blowing up with Sparty fans talking about Michigan barely BEATING a team that got blown out by Clemson, who in-turn, got blown out by West Virginia.
To this, I asked myself..."why do I have so many Sparty friends?"
January 5th, 2012 at 10:16 AM ^
Yeah, I've never understood that logic. Notre Dame beat MSU, MSU beat Michigan, so does that mean Notre Dame is better than Michigan, despite Michigan having beaten them?
Of course not.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:08 PM ^
Also, we beat Nebraska and they lost to Nebraska.
January 4th, 2012 at 11:28 PM ^
This is a trainwreck and I cannot look away. I have to know how bad it gets. Starters are getting sat for WVU so 100 isn't in play, but 80 is a distinct possibility.
January 4th, 2012 at 11:29 PM ^
But if Clemson > VT and we beat VT in OT.....
January 4th, 2012 at 11:31 PM ^
Zillions of variables in every game. Matchups matter.
January 4th, 2012 at 11:38 PM ^
And we lost to Iowa who lost to Minnesota who lost to New Mexico State. This is football not math, there is no transititve property
January 4th, 2012 at 11:56 PM ^
forgot my /s
January 5th, 2012 at 10:05 AM ^
But we lost to Iowa, who lost to Minnesota, who got demolished by Michigan.
So glad we don't have to play that team, though; we'd never stand a chance.
January 5th, 2012 at 9:17 AM ^
I think the take away is that bowl games are weird, played after a month or so layoff, after a bowl week of promotional shenanigans, etc. I am not at all certain bowl games give an accurate read on the teams that play. I think this calls into question the assumption that we can rely on bowl games to evaluate the teams, determine rankings, and pick a "champion."
January 4th, 2012 at 11:30 PM ^
This is a total train wreck, but matchups/motivation in bowls are tricky. Clemson blew the doors off of Va Tech, while we struggled with them. Clemson just couldn't bounce back from that fumble return.
But man - this is effing hideous.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:45 AM ^
Blew the doors off of them twice.
January 4th, 2012 at 11:31 PM ^
I went to Clemson and Michigan. I did not talk any tash and am proud of them no matter what.
January 4th, 2012 at 11:33 PM ^
I'm vacationing in Florida and happen to be staying at the same hotel as the Clemson team and fans...I doubt I will get any sleep tonight
January 5th, 2012 at 12:23 AM ^
clemson fans don't have a lot to say after nights like this
January 4th, 2012 at 11:35 PM ^
January 4th, 2012 at 11:37 PM ^
No. What this shows is that 1) the Clemson coaches don't know how to make adjustments and 2) Clemson doesn't know how to deal with adversity very well. Lou Holtz has said precious few correct things in his life, but one that is completely true, is that you never know for 100% certain what team will show up on gameday. This is the posterchild of that thought.
January 4th, 2012 at 11:52 PM ^
January 4th, 2012 at 11:59 PM ^
What it really shows is that the Clemson coaches did not have their players prepared to face adversity. They got fucked on a terrible turnover, and then collapsed.
The opposite is the 2011 Michigan Wolverines, where anytime they faced adversity, they fought back tooth and nail. It didn't always work out, but as the ND game and the Sugar Bowl show you, never giving up a fight will win you some in the end. That is a testament to the leadership of the team, and also the real story of the Sugar Bowl.
January 4th, 2012 at 11:42 PM ^
If Notre Dame was a conference it would be the ACC. Huge hype year after year for teams like FSU, Georgia Tech and Miami only to see the wheels fall off.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:22 AM ^
we got some this year because we scored an assload of points in the beginning, but we knew we were flawed. u(sic)ga showed that much.
FSU on the other hand...
January 5th, 2012 at 5:08 AM ^
"University (sic) of Georgia" is a thing you guys do? That right there is pretty awesome. Certainly better than scUM, O$U and the like.
January 4th, 2012 at 11:57 PM ^
Let's not throw Eastern in to this...
January 4th, 2012 at 11:57 PM ^
This game is a joke. If I heard it correctly, didn't Herbstreit pick Clemson in a rout, or words to that effect?
January 4th, 2012 at 11:58 PM ^
doesn't make us look very good.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:47 AM ^
January 4th, 2012 at 11:59 PM ^
If Clemson doesn't deserve one, then VT doesn't deserve one. If VT doesn't deserve one, Michigan doesn't deserve one.
Be careful with this train of thought.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:14 AM ^
Youngstown State > North Dakota State > Minnesota > Iowa > Michigan > Illinois > Arizona State > USC > Oregon
There are very few teams you can't play this game with. Maybe just two.
January 5th, 2012 at 7:28 AM ^
http://www.myteamisbetterthanyourteam.com/
You can make any team better than just about any other team using the transitive property. It's a nice waste of time
January 5th, 2012 at 9:03 AM ^
BTW -- Slippery Rock is better than USC by transitive property. Chart?
CHART.
Div II | Slippery Rock | beat | California PA | 17 - 3 | |
Div II | California PA | beat | CW Post | 41 - 13 | |
Div II | CW Post | beat | Bloomsburg | 24 - 21 | |
Div II | Bloomsburg | beat | Ashland | 27 - 20 | |
Div II | Ashland | beat | Indianapolis | 39 - 36 | |
Div II | Indianapolis | beat | Grand Valley St | 34 - 33 | |
Div II | Grand Valley St | beat | W Oregon | 44 - 20 | |
Div II | W Oregon | beat | Humboldt St | 40 - 24 | |
Div II | Humboldt St | beat | UC Davis | 23 - 17 | |
Div I - FCS | UC Davis | beat | CS Sacramento | 23 - 19 | |
Div I - FCS | CS Sacramento | beat | Oregon St | 29 - 28 | |
Div I - FBS | Oregon St | beat | Arizona | 37 - 27 | |
Div I - FBS | Arizona | beat | Arizona St | 31 - 27 | |
Div I - FBS | Arizona St | beat | USC | 43 - 22 |
I guess Garnett is really considering Slippery Rock
January 5th, 2012 at 12:29 AM ^
VT probably deserved a BCS more than Clemson did. They were ranked higher, had a better record and beat teams that Clemson lost to. Clemson got bid because they won their championship game against a team that is obviously a bad match-up for them. Is NW a better team than Iowa even though they beat Iowa constantly. By your logic, no one in the B1G deserved a BCS bid because we all had two losses an kicked the crap out of each other at various times.
<br>An why is UM playing the BCS such a big deal to anyway?
January 5th, 2012 at 12:08 AM ^
There goes 30 points.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:09 AM ^
They earned their way to this game but obviously is having their worst game of the season at the worst time. I certainly feel for the seniors on that team.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:13 AM ^
I was hoping for 80.
Will be interesting to see how Clemson responds to this in the off-season. If they handle adversity this poorly, there could be a hangover into next September.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:27 AM ^
For all the crap the Big East gets...the ACC is 2-13 in BCS bowl games. That about says it all
January 5th, 2012 at 12:31 AM ^
Isn't the answer always Michigan State?
January 5th, 2012 at 12:32 AM ^
Bet ol' Coach Rod is really chomping at the bit to get Casteel now. Probably will.
/shakes fist
/is happy with GREG
January 5th, 2012 at 1:42 AM ^
They did give up 33 points though. Just sayin
January 5th, 2012 at 12:33 AM ^
too bad it's against West Virginia
January 5th, 2012 at 12:42 AM ^
the big ten might be bad, but it could be worse. at least its not the acc.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:08 AM ^
If there was ever a way for a coach who won 10 games and Coach of the Year honors to land on the hot seat based on his team's performance in a single game, Dabo Swinney just found it.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:42 AM ^
the BCS games have been pretty entertaining and close, there's always a dud game every year, sometimes two. It was bound to happen.
FWIW, I think VTU played their asses off yesterday and had they played like that vs Clemson either time the result could have different.
I'm just pissed because this keeps the Big East in the BCS argument relevant, they needed to get punked by Clemson for that talk to start.