Anyone else think the Forcier family is a bit...I dunno...off? Weird?

Submitted by Sommy on

I'm pumped to get Tate up here for next year, but has anyone else noticed how strange the Forcier family seems?   I mean...

 - Homeschooled

 - Marv Marinovich personally trains all of the Forcier brothers

 - Every brother has gone to a different high school to play football (apparently in a Tebow-esque manner, they were all allowed to compete despite being homeschooled) 

 - Every one of the brothers has been a fairly highly recruited D1 prospect (which would seem to be pretty rare to me, especially since I haven't seen any evidence that any of the Forcier elders have even played football)

 - The QBForce.com "resume" seems weird and over the top.

Anyone else get the impression that daddy Forcier is maybe a bit crazy and is trying to live out his dreams through his sons by grooming them to be professional athletes?  Just seems kinda strange, and the Marinovich thing coupled with the homeschooling is kind of unsettling.

Either way, I'm excited for Tate to come to Michigan (I actually wanted Forcier over Newsome; his accuracy is unreal).

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Huss

September 1st, 2008 at 1:49 PM ^

The Forcier's care about their children, and can afford them a trainer.  The Forcier brothers are all D1-caliber.  These people are heretics!  WTF?!!!

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Blue Durham

September 1st, 2008 at 2:13 PM ^

Weird?  Homeschooled, personal trainer, brothers that played at different schools, a resume "over the top" weird?   

Yeah, you really have to question kids that are homeschooled.  Definite indications of psycopathic tendencies.

This kid is what, 17 years old, and you have gathered all of this info on him and you are questioning his upbringing?  That is not only "weird," its kind of disturbing. 

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Sommy

September 1st, 2008 at 2:25 PM ^

It's kind of hard to ignore the info if you follow recruiting at all.

You can't tell me you don't think it's a bit weird that Marv Marinovich is their trainer. You know, Todd Marinovich's dad?

Sorry that I see homeschooling as strange, but I do -- I've never met any family that homeschools that doesn't do so for non-education reasons (whether it's religious beliefs or something else).  Nevermind the social implications of keeping your kids out of school.  That's all. 

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Blue Durham

September 1st, 2008 at 2:26 PM ^

I don't follow recruiting at all except what is on this blog (I don't have the interest, really).  But what is the relevence of Marv Marinovich?  Is he a convicted child molester or something?  Or is the only significance of Marv Marinovich to this post is that he is his son's father?

If he trained his son, who had a successful college career, he must have done something right.  His son may have been a little off-beat; but I didn't think you are supposed to hold the sins of the father against the son (or vis-a-versa in this case), are you?

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Sommy

September 1st, 2008 at 2:33 PM ^

It's more to do with the idea that Marv Marinovich groomed his kid from birth to be a QB and prioritizing that over school, family, etc.  Just seems weird to me.

I think it's a bit of an understatement to say that Todd was "a little off-beat," though. 

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Blue Durham

September 1st, 2008 at 2:47 PM ^

It's more to do with the idea that Marv Marinovich groomed his kid from birth to be a QB and prioritizing that over school, family, etc. 

I suspect that this may go on more than we realize (I have no idea).  But this certainly isn't the first time I've heard such a thing.  Vince Testeverde was supposedly raised in a similar manner, even with the explicit goal of winning the Heisman Trophy.  worked for him and the University of Miami.

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jblaze

September 2nd, 2008 at 9:27 AM ^

1) Homeschooling is strange, absolutely no doubt about this. How does he just show up after school and practice when he doesn't even go to school with his teammates? Also, homeschooling to the University of Michigan is a tough transition.

2) I think the different High Schools were because Tate was better than Chris and would have started over that brother, so the family decided against it.

3) If QBForce.com was Jimmah's site, we would crack on that all day long.

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Blue Durham

September 1st, 2008 at 2:41 PM ^

Sommy, I do not like to come down on posters here.  I think that most people post to provide the MGoBlog community with information and insight and deserve consideration for doing such.

But I really dislike posts disparaging kids for things off the football field and require an awful lot of conjecture, particularly regarding those kids who haven't even graduated high school!  Think the ridiculous Tyrell Pryor and Newsome uproar.

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baleedat

September 1st, 2008 at 3:04 PM ^

i'm glad Tate is coming to UM, but i must admit qbforce.com did give me douche chills when i viewed back in the spring. creating a website dedicated to how great you are seems a little messed up, but i guess that's how it goes these days. he has changed the content since then and now it's not so bad. also, i am glad that McGuffie hates his mixtape

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Michigan Arrogance

September 1st, 2008 at 5:01 PM ^

has a bad rap, but there are a lot of people doing it these days. lots of reasons:

  • class sizes are extreme these days
  • schools are underequipped/underfunded
  • violence in schools 
  • tracking at an early age
  • teaching to the test is standard these days
  • school should be designed for social interaction. it should be for learning. plenty of districts allowhomeschooled kids to take part in extra-curriculars.
  • teachers are questionable qualified in too many cases.

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chunkums

September 1st, 2008 at 6:27 PM ^

Schools do have a lot of shortcomings these days, but the fact of the matter is that it is almost equally important to be in a social environment interacting with people in a positive manner as it is to get the education.  Furthermore, so many people are homeschooled by parents who have no idea how to teach.  There's a reason teaching is something people go to college for, and there's a reason that nearly everyone I've met who has been homeschooled has been socially awkward.

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kgh10

September 1st, 2008 at 7:12 PM ^

Ok maybe a lot of homeschooled kids do not usually have a lot of social interaction with other kids, but I'm pretty sure these boys have been on sports teams and other activities since they were tiny and were constantly around other kids. Every one of the Forcier boys are in college (UCLA, Stanford, & Michigan no less!) or about to be pretty soon, so the homeschooling obviously is not hurting them in school or football since they all are or are about to be D1 student-athletes at top universities. Something tells me they are doing fine.

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k bizzle

September 1st, 2008 at 7:14 PM ^

Wow his family is really close and happy to be around each other. That is weird in todays world. They actual want to have fun and spend time doing thing together. Guess they should get with the times and fight all the time and yell at each other?

 Glad to have Tate aboard, it will be great to see him next year.

Also how much time have you actually spent with the Forcier family Sommy? I really hope your not basing your whole opinion on what you read and see on the internet, because that would be pretty weak to say the least.

 And bashing Marinovich for trying to groom his kid into a a QB is just crazy. I mean look at Tiger Woods I'm sure he wishes his dad didn't push him so hard and groom him to be a pro golfer?

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mjv

September 2nd, 2008 at 2:28 AM ^

Is it possible that each of the boys went to a different school so that one son did not have to sit behind another?  (is that a sign of a fear of competition?!?!?!?!  please note the sarcasm here.) 

Is Marinovich a qualified QB coach in their home town?  If so, this point is irrelevant.

Many people home school their kids for a variety of reasons.  Passing judgement with no data, outside of older siblings going to excellent universities, is baseless.

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Tim Waymen

September 2nd, 2008 at 10:32 AM ^

Props to whomever said brought up the thing about the Forcier family being close.  It's true: we are too quick to judge people as being weird for being unusual (duh!).  I'll admit, I am weirded out by homeschooling, but if it works and the kids are brought up to be good people, then do it.  Anyways,

  1. It's none of my business (okay I'm sorry, Tim Tebow) 
  2. It's nice indeed that the family is so close.
It stands in contrast to the image of the overbearing QB dad in Varsity Blues or Friday Night Lights.  Not like I know the family, but it seems like their family bond and shared hobby.  That's pretty cool I guess.

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Eric

September 2nd, 2008 at 11:30 AM ^

All of the things that you listed as being "weird" are the things that probably directly attributed to him getting a full ride athletic scholarship to the University of Michigan. I would do all of those things if it got me to that point. This kid is going to get a free education at a top notch university because his parents cared enough to get him prepared. Having said that. I do think that the Forciers are their own biggest fans, but that doesn't bother me. Nothing wrong with having pride in your family and accomplishments. I can't wait to see this kid wearing the winged helmet!!

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Thrillhouse

September 2nd, 2008 at 6:24 PM ^

I kinda like the vibe the forciers give off. Well, for one, they're obviously michigan fans. Then there's the picture of Jason wearing a 'Worst State Ever Shirt'. The cherry on top was a picture of the three brothers standing in front of Jefferson North Assembly Plant on the east side of Detroit. My first job out of college was a Chrysler, and I used to go to that plant quit a bit for various reasons so it was odd to see a photo of a football recruit standing in front of it. That last point probably isn't cool to anyone but me.

Also, I believe their dad played football in some capacity at SDSU, maybe as a 4th string QB.

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hat

September 2nd, 2008 at 7:10 PM ^

You would not believe the number of children who are homeschooled in California - it's in the hundreds of thousands.  That state's public schools are a disaster, thanks in part to a law from the 1970s that keeps property taxes artificially low.  (As in most other states, schools in California are primarily funded by property taxes.)

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chitownblue (not verified)

September 7th, 2008 at 10:47 AM ^

I wish we could resolve to avoid making conclusions about the character of people we haven't and will never meet based on two or three "facts" that are virtually meaningless.

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