How we get in if Georgia wins
If Georgia wins we can still get in as long as TCU doesn't make it into the top 16. They are currently 18th right now. We need Baylor to win and stay ahead of TCU, and OK State loss would keep them and Oklahoma ahead of TCU. A Clemson win could jump them over TCU.
I am not sure if the B1G Champ loser will fall below TCU, but I dont think Houston will fall past TCU. This happening would keep TCU out of the top 16 and we would move up to 14th ahead of Houston and the BIG Champ loser. We would then probably get the only at-large bid into the BCS.
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:10 PM ^
If Georgia makes it a great game and still loses, is there any guarantee they would drop below us?
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:12 PM ^
Not sure, but we should still move up to 14 with the Houston loss and the MSU/Wiscy loss
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:14 PM ^
Georgia sure looked better than a #14 team in the first half. A few points more for LSU wouldn't change my mind if I was a voter.
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:43 PM ^
Yeah, but Georgia can't get into the BCS anyway UNLESS it wins the SEC Champ.
And I'm not so sure Houston will fall below us with their loss. It all depends on the voters. They'll still only have one loss, and that against a ranked team.
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:58 PM ^
Yeah, but we have to make the top 14 to get a BCS bid. Georgia is one of the two teams we expected to fall below us (Michigan State/Wisconsin is the other). Luckily, Mathieu is returning punts like a pro.
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:59 PM ^
1) Voters are looking for a reason to knock Houston down.
2) Voters will hedge their votes a bit to get the matchups they want. That's how Florida passed Michigan in 2006, it's how Oklahoma State will pass Bama, and it's the reason that no one should have been worried about Michigan getting into the top 14.
3) Because of 1 and 2, Houston will drop to at least 14 and Michigan will be ahead of them.
December 3rd, 2011 at 7:12 PM ^
Their resume was very thin. They're going to get punished by the voters, a lot worse than a team that had played a tougher schedule. You can't play a handful of relevant games and end your season getting blown out. I'll be surprised if they are higher than #20. Should they even be ranked higher than S. Miss?
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:25 PM ^
Nice, if anything that's fun to toggle around with. Looks like we need UGA to lose for Sugar bowl. If UGA wins we need Iowa State.
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:42 PM ^
the same iowa state that lost already today?
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:25 PM ^
that makes a lot of assumptions. nobody can assume how far houston will drop, whether the b1g champ loser drops below michigan, whether tcu breaks the top 16, etc. we will have to wait till tomorrow (unless LSU wins, in which case it is probably a done deal)
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:12 PM ^
But, just because TCU gets into the top 16 does that automatically mean they get to go to a BCS game?
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:13 PM ^
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:23 PM ^
I'd just like to take a moment to say screw the Big East.
Once Houston lost, I daydreamed about Michigan making the Fiesta Bowl if Georgia won, since that would be a doable day trip for me. But then I realized it would never happen because a lower-ranked TCU team would take Michigan's spot solely due to the immense amount of suck in the Big East. So screw the Big East.
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:30 PM ^
"immense amount of suck". Too bad it doesn't count.
December 3rd, 2011 at 7:10 PM ^
Although I should take that back. It's not solely due to the immense amount of suck in the Big East. LSU's ability to crush the souls of their opponents is making that irrelevant.
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:13 PM ^
Presuming that WVU stays behind them, yes.
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:12 PM ^
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:14 PM ^
Yeah you are probably right. It would be nice if LSU got a first down in the 2nd half
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:41 PM ^
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:13 PM ^
Baylor is up 41-24. Mack Brown sucks
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:18 PM ^
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:18 PM ^
This thread would have fit perfectly into the last one. Why create a new one?
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:25 PM ^
I think this is a pretty important distinction to make. Important enough to give it a separate thread to ensure it doesn't get buried.
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:29 PM ^
The last thread is "Do we need Georgia to lose?" This thread is "No, and here's why."
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:34 PM ^
I just did it so that people wouldnt have to look through 150+ posts to find it
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:34 PM ^
There is a lot of misinformation in that thread and creating a new thread for discussion on the actual situation helps to clear some of the clutter, IMO.
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:28 PM ^
This fellow's handle is "Booger Eater" after all
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:19 PM ^
Georgia will lose by 17 at least. We will play TCU in the sugar bowl. It seems really clear right now.
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:24 PM ^
/s (?)
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:26 PM ^
You must be one of those math professors that writes "this should be obvious" in your text books right before the justifying part comes in.
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:53 PM ^
I've just watch LSU play terrible first halves in the last couple of weeks. Coach les eats some grass, makes some adjustments and second half destruction happens. And with the sugar bowl, it looks like a lock. Baylor won't jump TCU. Houston will fall out of the top twenty. Etc. Etc...
December 3rd, 2011 at 7:06 PM ^
There's no grass to eat at the Georgia Dome. Given this second half performance, do you think Les ate some field turf?
December 3rd, 2011 at 8:21 PM ^
Isn't it always obvious when you're a math professor though?
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:22 PM ^
Win or lose, LSU deserves to be in over Bama w/ wins over Bama, Oregon, Ark, & WVU.
The logic of avoiding a do-over gets a lot stronger if the two participants can no longer be considered a world apart from the rest of college football.
I really hadn't considered the ramifacations of a UGA win until it became a significant possibility. I bet most of the CFB talking heads and pollsters haven't given it much thought either. But if UGA & Okie St win, it will be batted around until the NC game participants are revealed.
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:22 PM ^
Is this the same BoogerEater2 that posts on the mlive high school football forums for years about "off the field" issues?
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:29 PM ^
I know nothing about mlive, but am confident two people (independent of each other) would ever choose such a silly name.
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:27 PM ^
Will jump Michigan most likely....Texas is atrocious wow...
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:49 PM ^
Even if Baylor jumps us, an Oklahoma win likely won't knock out Okie St. from a BCS slot, and thus OU and Okie St. fill out the 2 Big XII BCS slots. This keeps Baylor out since the conference won't qualify for the narrow exception (3 teams only where 2 non conference champions are ranked one and two)
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:57 PM ^
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:57 PM ^
Baylor was blown out by A&M. It makes no sense for Baylor to jump Michigan.
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:59 PM ^
I just don't understand how a 9-3 Baylor jumps a 10-2 Michigan...
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:28 PM ^
It doesn't take into account TCU not getting to 16, nor does it include Ok St jumping Alabama with a win over a OU, which is very very possible.
OK St would have 5 top 25 wins versus Alabama's 1. This is going to be talked about and some people will change their mind.
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:48 PM ^
December 3rd, 2011 at 7:01 PM ^
In the BCS
December 3rd, 2011 at 7:07 PM ^
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:29 PM ^
They need to lose by more than 10. They are gaining votes as we speak.
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:30 PM ^
LSU'S GOT THIS! GEAUX TIGERZZZZZZZZZZZ
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:30 PM ^
LSU is not going to lose. They will show their dominance in the second half. Georgia can't keep up for an entire game.
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:36 PM ^
UGA should be winning. I think LSU wins by 10-14 though. That should be enough for UGA to drop below us, but if they lose by 3 I can see a lot of voters not moving them down by more than 1-2 spots.