December 3rd, 2011 at 5:08 PM ^
you guys don't understand, being in the top 14 does no good if 10 teams are guaranteed bids ahead of us, if TCU gets top 16 and LSU and Bama are 1 and 2 with Georgia as SEC champ, then the following teams have auto bids
GA, LSU, Ala, Big 12 champ, Big east champ, ACC champ, Oregon, TCU, Stanford and Wisc/MSU, thats 10
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:13 PM ^
Why does TCU have an automatic bid?
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:15 PM ^
if they're in the top 16 and are ranked above WVU, they are 100% guaranteed a bid under the rules.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:34 PM ^
(even though I didn't see it).
If I had a vote in the polls, I would definitely rank WVU above TCU. (Last sentence is a true statement.)
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:36 PM ^
They needed a last minute interception against an awful South Florida team that won't make a bowl to score the winning points. WVU gets worse every year.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:56 PM ^
absolutely reamed UNLV.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:16 PM ^
For the same reason Houston would've. Because the highest-ranked non-auto conference champs are guaranteed a bid if they're ranked high enough.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:18 PM ^
The highest ranked Champion of a non-BCS conference is guaranteed a spot IF: they finish in the top 16 AND they finish ranked ahead of one BCS conference champion.
TCU started the day 18th and will move up into the top 16 because of losses ahead of them according to experts. They are ranked ahead of WVU. Houston would have gotten this automatic bid, but they lost, so now TCU is the highest ranked non-AQ champion.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:18 PM ^
because:
The champion of Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference, or the Western Athletic Conference will
A. Such team is ranked in the top 12 of the final BCS Standings, or,
B. Such team is ranked in the top 16 of the final BCS Standings and its ranking in the final BCS Standings is higher than that of a champion of a conference that has an annual automatic berth in one of the BCS bowls.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:29 PM ^
so there still would be a spot
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:41 PM ^
How would they take WVU's spot? An autobid is an autobid, you can't get your spot taken away even if there's a non-AQ champion in front of you. The only stipulation is that if a non-AQ is top 16 and ahead of a autoqualifying champion then they ALSO get an autobid.
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:50 PM ^
How does Stanford have an autobid? By virtue of being 1-loss & big6?
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:08 PM ^
If Georgia wins, LSU or Alabama is out of BCS contention no matter how highly they are ranked.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:12 PM ^
This is not true. If the #1&2 teams are both from the same conference AND neither are the conference champion then all three teams are guaranteed BCS slots. Its a rule.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:12 PM ^
Sorry, but you are just wrong.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:08 PM ^
If Georgia wins, LSU or Alabama is out of BCS contention no matter how highly they are ranked.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:13 PM ^
Three wrongs don't make a right.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:08 PM ^
If Georgia wins, LSU or Alabama is out of BCS contention no matter how highly they are ranked.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:11 PM ^
that is not correct
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:11 PM ^
If LSU and Bama remain 1 and 2, then they go to the NC and Georgia goes to the Sugar.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:17 PM ^
If LSU and Bama are still ranked 1-2 then they are in no matter what. I suppose it could be possible for Okie St to pass Bama if they win big and voters punish Bama because of LSU's loss and wanting to avoid a scenario where the national champ includes 2 teams that did not win their conf champ.
Otherwise the only way we make a BCS with a Georgia win is if TCU does not make it to the top 16 which I suppose is still possible if Baylor wins and the MSU/WIscy loser does not drop past 17, and/or Houston falls past us but stays ahead of TCU..
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:10 PM ^
This game sort of looks like LSU-Arkansas. My guess is LSU pulls it together and ends up smashing them. You never know, though. This game should be good.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:28 PM ^
was LSU's offense this atrocious in the first half in that game too? I doubt it...they can't get anything going here ugh
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:11 PM ^
Don't get me wrong they obviously are playing to win, but if georgia, lsu, and Alabama all are in the bcs, that's 3 teams getting that huge payout for the SEC to split, plus lsu is almost automatically in the nat. Championship already....
I'd love Bama to get left out of the bcs though with a georgia win and a ok st stomping of Oklahoma!
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:20 PM ^
They're trying to win. They're not thinking about revenue split.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:13 PM ^
If Georgia wins, it seems like it will come down to us or Stanford. Michigan will travel better, but Stanford would pull in a better TV audience with all of the (insane) hype for Luck.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:15 PM ^
If Stanford finishes in the top 4 (they are currently fourth), they are GUARANTEED a spot. Not an at large team like us.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:15 PM ^
Stanford is also an autobid with a top 4 finish in the BCS.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:13 PM ^
We could still get in with a Georgia win IF EITHER: (a) TCU doesn't make the top 16, or (b) the voters put Ok State in the title game instead of Bama or LSU. These should be considered insanely remote possibilities.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:24 PM ^
TCU still needs to jump 2 spots. That might not happen if Baylor wins and Houston and/or the Big 10 loser stays ahead of TCU. Of course those things might make it harder for us to get up to the top 14.
But lets say we move up to 14 with MSU/Wiscy and Houston losing. It could finish this way:
14- Michigan
15- Baylor
16- Houston and/or Big 10 loser
17- TCU
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:29 PM ^
It all depends how far everyone drops with these upsets. There's a lot of time between now and 9 PM tomorrow night. GEAUX TIGERS.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:31 PM ^
A Baylor win, an MSU loss and possibly a Clemson win are all bad for TCU. So is an OK St. loss, but that would also be bad for us. Houston will be behind them.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:32 PM ^
this is right, TCU has to jump 2 spots, the teams they could jump are limited to GA (if they lose), Okla (if they lose), Baylor (if they lose), the loser of the Big 10 title game, and Houston
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:14 PM ^
No one knows. It All became a huge clusterfuck as soon as Houston lost. We just have to let it play out and see what this 1/3 computer 2/3 voters of a robo system decides tomorrow night:/
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:15 PM ^
How could thay justify putting Bama and LSU in the title game if LSU loses here? Shouldnt Oregon or OkSt get a shot?
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:21 PM ^
you want to take a 2 loss Oregon team who lost to a one loss LSU team by 20+?
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:21 PM ^
I don't think it's impossible that an LSU loss knocks Alabama out. Probably won't, but not impossible. As long as Okie State wins, especially if convincingly.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:27 PM ^
Anyone know how much a Georgia win hurts bama in the computers? Ruins the perfect LSU>BAMA>ARKANSAS computerness, and bama didn't play georgia.
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:40 PM ^
Dunno, but two of the four computers already have OkSt ahead of Bama. But really it's the voters, I think, that need convincing.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:25 PM ^
that would be worse then when they allowed Okla to get to the title game, though they lost their conf title game. they went on to get thrashed in the title game.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:30 PM ^
Oregon has 2 losses.
Ok St., well they still need to play the Sooners.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:17 PM ^
Let's say that LSU loses handledly (by 14 or more) today to Georgia. Then tonight Ok-State wins handedly (by 17 or more) wouldn't the arguement have to be re-evaluated for OK-State to be in the National Title Game?
Reason being... Ok-State lost in OT, on a short week, on the road, to a bowl team. Also has major wins of what will be 5 ranked teams.... DISCUSS.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:20 PM ^
You underestimate the influence of the SEC cartel.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:26 PM ^
But in all seriousness, Georgia is proving that if you have a NFL caliber QB (something lacking in the SEC, sans Gerogia) that you can score on LSU. LSU wins despite having NO offense, I am convinced OK-State could score 24-31 points on LSU/Bama and I think their offense would be put in a tough spot trying to score with Ok-State.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:24 PM ^
I think a typical, run of the mill loss for LSU coupled with an impressive outing for OKst over OK should put the cowboys in the discussion. I dont think LSU has to get dominated for that to happen
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:47 PM ^
Would also like your opinion on... What is the possible effects of Ok-State being the last thing they see.
If the voters see LSU lose, and Ok-State look dominante couldn't that lead to the "it's not who you lose to, it's when you lose" statement?
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:13 PM ^
Yes, absolutely. I am not buying into this idea that LSU and Alabama are in, no matter what. The media talking heads are like 2 year olds, they chase after the next shiny object. That's why it used to hurt the B1G to quit playing 2 weeks before everyone else. Out of sight, out of mind.
A dismal LSU loss (no first downs so far) coupled with an impressive OK ST win will cause folks to have to re-examine their assumptions.
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:09 PM ^
If LSU does not get an F'ing first down, they do not belong in the National Championship game. Period.
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:16 PM ^
"Ok-State lost in OT, on a short week, on the road, to a bowl team"
Don't forget, it was also right after the tragic plane crash that took the life of the OK ST WBB coach. That was a hell of a distraction.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:20 PM ^
Are the bowls required to select a non-AQ team? Is TCU guaranteed a spot?