Minor Dunn Update: Just talked to Meyer
November 28th, 2011 at 11:37 PM ^
Meyer more resembles the RichRod spread with the QB running the ball majority of the time, and the RB becomes an extra blocker. I can see why Dunn wouldn't want to join up in that. He wants the ball.
November 28th, 2011 at 11:42 PM ^
Steve Slaton went over 1,000 three times playing for West Virginia. Running Backs unfortunately never stayed healthy while RichRod was at U of M -- Fitz could have contributed a lot in 2010 had he not been the sideline, and Brandon Minor and Carlos Brown also could have gotten a lot more yards had they not been constantly injured, even on the horrible 2008 team.
November 29th, 2011 at 8:35 AM ^
they play in a shit conference with NO top defensive teams (or offensive teams either). Their success was very Boise State like.
Go Blue!
November 29th, 2011 at 10:02 AM ^
I think the comparison is fine. It isn't necessarily between Michigan and WV; its more of distinction between RR's spread offensive scheme and Urbans. RR offense ran in WV ran around 70% of the time and utilized RBs heavily. They weren't just lead blockers. As such Noel Devine wanted to play in the offense. It doesn't exactly matter that the Big East doesn't have elite defenses but during RR's time there the Big East had some elite offenses (Louisville, WV, and Rutgers/Ray Rice). I don't know why you are so frustrated about the WV comparison. The poster was just explaining that RR used RBs when he had them. We just didn't exactly have any we could use effectively when he was here, since he overlooked Minor the first season and after giving Minor the reigns not being able to pass might fly in the Big East but not the Big Ten. Then Minor was injured most of 2009. Shit.
November 29th, 2011 at 11:19 AM ^
"West Virginia's freshman running back Steve Slaton was named the game's MVP, having rushed for a Sugar Bowl-record 204 yards and 3 touchdowns"
Are you going to argue that Georgia won the SEC without a good defense?
November 29th, 2011 at 1:01 PM ^
So Big East = bad means that RR didn't like to have a RB that ran the ball? Please explain this logic to me, I can't understand it at all.
November 29th, 2011 at 9:48 AM ^
According to Wikipedia, after Urban Meyer landed his HC job at Bowling Green, he made several trips to visit spread offense head coaches to learn from them. One of them was Rich Rod at WVU. The article goes on to say that he used a lot from RR with some tweeks.
So basically, 2006 FLA was RR + GMatt = National Championship. Kind of kidding, but really interesting..
November 29th, 2011 at 10:04 AM ^
The thing that is concerning is that in each of Toussaint's 3 seasons, he has spent a considerable portion of the time injured or banged up. RB is a high contact position, and he has a reputation of being fragile. If he gets banged up early next season, we go back to having no RB to take the pressure off Denard. We need Dunn.
November 29th, 2011 at 10:43 AM ^
I wouldn't say we need him, after all next year Rawls could be a bigger factor so that if Dunn does come here, he could land a RS
November 29th, 2011 at 11:31 AM ^
A guy of Dunn's caliber is extremely unlikely to redshirt. It just doesn't happen.
November 29th, 2011 at 1:23 PM ^
I thought Fitz is a redshirt soph and it's only his 2nd year playing?
November 29th, 2011 at 11:22 PM ^
He is currently a RS Sophomore.
November 29th, 2011 at 3:23 AM ^
We didn't beat Meyer in '08 using the pro-style offense. We were primarily a spread team in that game and it worked great. OSU beat us the previous year by coming out 4 wide and we never adjusted properly. The reason we're able to beat SEC teams and compete for B1G titles is because we typically have better athletes on our side of the ball. We might shift away from the zone read offense after Gardner, but we shouldn't totally go I-form, 2 TE.
November 28th, 2011 at 11:31 PM ^
November 28th, 2011 at 11:35 PM ^
Kalis and Magnuson are constantly in his ear, along with Shane. Urban Meyer said himself, at his press conference, that your best recruiters are often the players, and in this case, Michigan is winning. This won't last much longer...
I think he'll GO BLUE rather quickly.
November 28th, 2011 at 11:38 PM ^
He has to if he wants to early enroll.
November 29th, 2011 at 7:31 AM ^
When does he have to be enrolled by to be considered an EE?
November 29th, 2011 at 7:46 AM ^
I would guess when classes start. I would also gues when he enrolls into classes.....just a guess though.
November 29th, 2011 at 8:48 AM ^
He could just show up to class at Michigan in January and let that speak for itself. I honestly think that would be pretty cool.
November 29th, 2011 at 8:49 AM ^
...someone on MGoBlog would "break" the news, by searching the Michigan Student Registry the week before and see that he's enrolled before he even steps on campus.
November 29th, 2011 at 9:36 AM ^
OH NO HE DIDENT!
November 29th, 2011 at 8:55 AM ^
Classes start on January 4 (pdf). The last day for drop/add and I believe the last day to enroll for winter term is January 24. A couple years ago, we had the question about whether Devin Gardner would early enroll. He did, but he did so late. I don't know how when Dunn commits affects his ability to early enroll. You've got to figure there has to be some time for the HS and the University to get the paperwork together. I believe that was one of the issues with Gardner.
November 29th, 2011 at 12:02 AM ^
they did promise him tattoos though.
November 28th, 2011 at 11:33 PM ^
Too many factors going Michigan's way on this one.
November 28th, 2011 at 11:34 PM ^
The biggest factors: Hoke will run a pro style offense after next year, and his cousin will be going to Michigan. Since Dunn may very well RS unless he realy impresses, he may never encounter the spread at Michigan.
November 28th, 2011 at 11:38 PM ^
Never underestimate the power of free tattoos, cars, money, etc. Remember when Pryor was perfect for RR's system and somehow he went to the Bucks where he never learned how to play QB?
November 28th, 2011 at 11:42 PM ^
Pryor got sold that Tressel would help him become an NFL ready prospect. That didn't exactly go over well, but that's what sold him. Michigan is selling Dunn on the offense and family. The recruits in this class are becoming very family like, and I love that. Getting good chemistry before they even start playing together.
November 29th, 2011 at 9:10 AM ^
If you still think that Pryor only went to OSU because of Tressel's style of offense, I really don't know what to tell you. I'm sure it had nothing to do with the very special connection that Ted Sarniak and Tressel were forming down there in Columbus.
November 29th, 2011 at 10:41 AM ^
Sarniak was from the same town Pryor was from?
November 29th, 2011 at 1:48 PM ^
Sarniak is not from Columbus (he's actually a ND fan from PA).
In fact, the NCAA is investigating allegations from Sarniak/Tressel that one of the schools that was recruiting Pryor offered him "extra benefits". Don't be shocked to see this in Oregon's NOA soon.
December 11th, 2011 at 10:33 AM ^
He never have lost to UM - he was a good enough quarterback for that (unless you are saying it doesn't take a decent quarterback to beat UM).
November 28th, 2011 at 11:33 PM ^
I have a cousin who teaches high school history at Canton Glenoak. He says Dunn has been Blue the entire time. According to him, Dunn wants to enroll early to be ready for Alabama. No worries Michigan, Dunn has been and will go blue. He's just an attention whore..
November 28th, 2011 at 11:35 PM ^
Your right, but why would he say he's still committed to osu?
November 28th, 2011 at 11:36 PM ^
That's how he is. My cousin has said numerous times he had caught Dunn talking to the Glenoak AD about attending Michigan. Frankly, he wants to be pursued and to pick a hat on signing day. That's how he is. But according to my sources, which are VERY reliable, Dunn will put on the Michigan hat come signing day.
November 28th, 2011 at 11:38 PM ^
EE there will be no signing day for him in that case
November 28th, 2011 at 11:40 PM ^
My apologies...just repeating I've heard from Glenoak faculty..
November 28th, 2011 at 11:57 PM ^
Could it be that maybe the Glenoak faculty is made up of mostly Buckeye fans? I wouldn't call a kid an attention whore who barely gave out any information or interviews during this entire process. I also wouldn't call a kid an attention whore when you want him to get that attention as a star running back for your team.
November 29th, 2011 at 12:03 AM ^
There may be jealousy of his possible decision to attend Michigan. I'm not sure. Again, I didn't mean to start rumors. I only tried to report what I had hears from someone who sees and interacts with Dunn on the daily..
November 29th, 2011 at 11:30 AM ^
Stop posting and shut up.
You're not helping, you're hurting.
December 11th, 2011 at 4:03 PM ^
Last time I checked, he didn't orchestrate a one-hour special on ESPN to announce his commitment. Therefore, he must not be an attention whore.
November 28th, 2011 at 11:41 PM ^
This sort of makes sense. What high school football player wouldn't want to tweet "Just talked to Urban Meyer." If he likes attention, what better way to get it?
November 28th, 2011 at 11:50 PM ^
Did you cousin say he's an attention whore or are you saying that? If I were in his position, I wouldn't announce so that I wouldn't have to put up with the stuff that Kalis put up with.
November 28th, 2011 at 11:54 PM ^
And I'm repeating what my cousin said. I am in no position to judge Dunn's character. I am just hoping he goes Blue!
November 29th, 2011 at 12:39 AM ^
Did you see all the shit OSU gave Kails? Heck Dunn is getting a lot of crap and he is still technically an Ohio commit
November 28th, 2011 at 11:35 PM ^
I hope you are right my good sir. If not, could mean Bolivia for you.
November 28th, 2011 at 11:37 PM ^
all 21 of his points!!!
November 28th, 2011 at 11:38 PM ^
Can't go negative anymore?
November 28th, 2011 at 11:43 PM ^
Better be?! I took me 3 months to get out of negative.
November 28th, 2011 at 11:47 PM ^
it's not as big of a loss as going negative from 1000 points. And remember, MGoPoints are scientifically proven to be correlated with self-esteem.