Marvin Lewis calls out RR over handling of Pac-Man Jones
From Mike Florio at profootballtalk: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/02/marvin-lewis-takes-shot-at-wvu-rich-rodriguez-on-pacman-jones/
On Wednesday, Bengals coach Marvin Lewis had a conference call with the Tennessee media. Reflecting on Pacman’s problems in the NFL, which culminated in a one-year suspension after two seasons in the league, Jones took a shot at West Virginia University and former coach Rich Rodriguez.
“It’s unfortunate a guy could go into college and spent three years on a college campus and not learn some of the things really they should learn,” Lewis said. “But hopefully he has learned those lessons now.”
Um, really? Look, I know I’ve got a Mountaineer bias. Still, I’ll acknowledge that, under Rodriguez, the bar when it comes to problem children was pretty low. "
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:24 PM ^
maybe problem was not with coaches, but with the player himself, or with the coach under whom he is getting in trouble.
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:26 PM ^
maybe
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:47 PM ^
Wait a minute. Are you suggesting that someone in this country take responsibility for their actions?
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:58 PM ^
Heh someone marked this as flamebait? Good lord I must have hit a nerve. Don't worry just blame someone else whoever did it.
November 3rd, 2011 at 8:54 AM ^
un-American.
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:48 PM ^
I think Hoke has changed the tide on the rivalry. Hell people in Ohio are starting to believe him. Never in a million years I would have thought that. Selling Michigan jerseys is a good start.
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:24 PM ^
maybe problem was not with coaches, but with the player himself, or with the coach under whom he is getting in trouble.
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:27 PM ^
could be
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:24 PM ^
maybe problem was not with coaches, but with the player himself, or with the coach under whom he is getting in trouble.
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:27 PM ^
I think you're onto something
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:27 PM ^
says pac-man is in a strip club right now
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:35 PM ^
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:36 PM ^
Or as he likes to call refer to it, "scrip club." As in, "ain't nothing wrong with goin to the scrib club." And yes, that's a direct quote.
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:59 PM ^
Pacman was just "bein' rebellion."
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:18 PM ^
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:53 PM ^
in singles no doubt.
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:28 PM ^
If you say it three times it's gotta be true.
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:39 PM ^
sorry, for wasting you precious time.
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:29 PM ^
Knows about player discipline like the bengals.
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:35 PM ^
Yeah. Marvin is probably the last coach that should criticize other coaches for discipline issues with players
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:29 PM ^
This is coming from Marvin Lewis? The coach that practically manufactures criminals?
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:32 PM ^
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:36 PM ^
Maybe Rodriguez should have suspended Pac Man in 2003 for that stripper incident in 2007, maybe he shouldn't have. It's a tough call.
The important thing, though, is that Jones learns about consequences. This is why Marvin Lewis wanted him on his team so badly after he paralyzed a guy.
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:40 PM ^
always the victim of bad circumstance. Pacman, Chris Henry, Carson, Cedric, TJ on and on. Of course Marvin should be pitied, how is it possible for him to compete when the players on his team had no formal training? Dear, dear.
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:40 PM ^
College Park, Georgia
Morgantown, West Virginia
Nuff' said.
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:42 PM ^
its ALWAYS easy to pass the buck
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:59 PM ^
can your time machine go back to any other year than 2006?
November 2nd, 2011 at 7:03 PM ^
I don't blame the OP, but I think I do blame Mike Florio, whoever he is. There's not one single quote that I see, in which Marvin Lewis ever utters the name, "Rich Rodriguez."
The comments in the linked article didn't miss that fine point. And the comments in this thread make the appropriate point as well. I like this one from the original article posted by "amunoz78":
Actually, he’s talking about Pacman, not WVU or Rich Rod. He’s saying that he didn’t learn what he should have in college. He didn’t say that WVU or Rodriguez didn’t teach what they should have. There are plenty of people who go to college and don’t learn a thing. That’s rarely the college’s fault.
Don’t twist Marvin’s words. No wonder he’s always pissed at the media.
I think that covers it. Just another sportswriter taking another dumb and baseless cheapshot against Rich Rodriguez.
November 2nd, 2011 at 7:06 PM ^
Yeah, it's a good point and one that maybe I should have referenced in the post. I agree that the quote is pretty tame on the surface and only Marvin Lewis knows who his criticism was directed towards.
November 2nd, 2011 at 7:02 PM ^
Pot, meet kettle.
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:04 PM ^
At what point do RR threads become OT?
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:26 PM ^
(Yost, Kipke, Crisler, Oosterbaan, Elliott, Schembechler, Moeller, Crisler) in something like 50 to 100 years.
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:51 PM ^
easy there, some people didnt like him as a coach, so that has to mean like 3 1/2 years ago when they didnt accept him as coach that it became OT right?
/s
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:12 PM ^
...(I practice "flippant" several times a week so I know), but really, on a more serious note, there's really no way that a thread about even Harry Kipke, one of our past, sub-legendary coaches from about 80 years ago, who was never the subject of one of the program's major books, would be "OT," would it? It would be Michigan Football History. And double-linked to MVictors.com.
It simply wouldn't be "OT."
lol! I just realized that instead of writing "Carr" in the post above, I wrote "Crisler" a second time. Must be something Freudian...
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:10 PM ^
I don't really see that it was a knock on Rodriguez by Lewis, but if it was, we now have a clubhouse leader for most hypocritical statement evaaarrr.
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:26 PM ^
In defense of RR, at WVU you can't just fall back on letting your players spend their weekends in the Hamilton Co. Jail from time to time as a way of getting them on the right track. Marvin Lewis has a big leg up.
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:38 PM ^
Really, we're expected to take morality advice from Marvin Lewis? What, was Craig James too busy killing 5 hookers while at homecoming for SMU to weigh in?
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:49 PM ^
Gawd. Now RR gets blamed for this, too?
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:28 PM ^
For as nice and generous a guy as RR seems to be (though ill-tempered at times), the media still cannot stop itself from crapping all over RR's public image. It's like the "in" thing to do. I mean, good God, the guy puts his heart into what he loves in a clean and classy way, and everytime he turns the corner somebody punches him in the mouth and stabs him in the back simultaneously. I don't get it. It's especially infuriating in light of how the media treat the Jim Tressel's (stilll) and Mark Dantonio's of the coaching world as the nicest guys you'll ever meet with the cleanest programs ever...
November 3rd, 2011 at 8:23 AM ^
Bo Schembechler should be criticized because Greg Skrepanek didn't learn the things he should have during his years on campus. Same with Tony Boles, whose rapid descent into drugs and criminal behavior after he left campus has been well-documented.
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:29 AM ^
about Lewis' rant is that he is blaming college for failing Pac-man all while putting together one of the worst grammatical sentences uttered.