Ace: 247Sports Ranks 2012 Defensive Position Groups
Yesterday, 247 named Michigan's 2012 offensive line class the best in the country, while also giving the Wolverines honorable mention at tight end. Today, they ranked the defense, and prepare for a little debate: The defensive end group of Chris Wormley and Tom Strobel came in second behind Florida State, which is cool, but the linebackers (Joe Bolden, RJS, Kaleb Ringer, and James Ross) also came in second, after Alabama, which is far less cool from a Michigan fan's perspective. While the issue is certainly up for debate, and Alabama has a pretty fantastic group, 247 analyst Gerry Hamilton said 'Bama's position at the top was 'pretty much cut and dry'.
To his credit, in the comments, J.C. Shurburtt acknowledged that both have great classes, implying that the Tide's spot at the top wasn't as clear-cut as Hamilton suggested. Your (probably wildly-biased) thoughts, MGoBoarders?
August 26th, 2011 at 12:18 PM ^
Hamilton also said in the comments that U-M's cornerback class could jump into the discussion if they were to land a guy like Yuri Wright. On a side note, both Alabama and Florida State have pretty incredible defensive classes right now, but the Wolverines are right there with them.
August 26th, 2011 at 12:18 PM ^
I'm thinking Arby's.
August 26th, 2011 at 12:19 PM ^
Also RB's.
August 26th, 2011 at 1:02 PM ^
I see what you did there.
August 26th, 2011 at 2:02 PM ^
It's good mood food.
August 26th, 2011 at 12:19 PM ^
Obviously 247 is assuming that Wormley and Strobel will flip to Ohio when the (non) penalties come down
/Bucknuts
August 26th, 2011 at 12:22 PM ^
I would say based on having 4 outstanding LB prospects we would take the crown in linebackers. Rivals has Alabama with two 4 stars and two 3 stars.
Also Ace, shouldn't your posts go up under diaries? Or still waiting for an MGoPoint injection from Brian? It'd be nice to keep your posts separate from the riff-raff of the MGoBoard (witness the excellent thread "What Angers Me About Playing Appy State")
August 26th, 2011 at 12:27 PM ^
I've already had a couple posts up as diaries, but stuff like this (either very short or passing on info - this happens to be both) will live on the board. The "Ace:" tag is supposed to help make my stuff stand out from the "riff-raff".
Also, MGoPoints really don't matter in my case, since I have all sorts of blog permissions and stuff that override the point limitations. I just haven't gotten around to giving myself a ton of points yet just for the hell of it.
August 26th, 2011 at 12:30 PM ^
a million billion points please? Almost as if we had retired him to our Hall of Fame (like a retired number or something)
August 26th, 2011 at 12:40 PM ^
Tim and TomVH should have their point totals frozen at 109,901.
August 26th, 2011 at 12:53 PM ^
I second this motion. If we elect people into the MGoHallOfFame, we freeze their points at 109,901. Someone make this happen.
August 26th, 2011 at 12:32 PM ^
But the Ace post isn't standing out for me, granted I have poor vision. If you had an Icon there instead of Ace, it would help a blind fool like me considerable. OK thanks
August 26th, 2011 at 12:41 PM ^
I'm working on getting an avatar, but right now the server is on lockdown when it comes to uploading new ones. We're working on it (and by "we" I mean not me, because I have no idea what to do about that), and hopefully I'll have one soon.
August 26th, 2011 at 1:33 PM ^
Until you get your own tab, if you capitalize the "ACE:" in the post title, it'll be more visible.
August 26th, 2011 at 1:18 PM ^
But someone has.
August 26th, 2011 at 1:31 PM ^
I was getting tired of answering the same question on every new thread I posted. Not that I don't appreciate the concern, just wanted to get it over with.
August 26th, 2011 at 1:03 PM ^
Considering that 247 made their team ranks based on their recruiting rankings, I'm guessing they don't care too much what Rivals thinks.
Also, Tom didn't post everything as a diary. I think Ace knows what he's doing.
August 26th, 2011 at 12:27 PM ^
everyone loves the SEC and thats just the way it is. I think Texas AM was set to get a big bump in the recruiting rankings but then they didnt . . . huh interesting!!
August 26th, 2011 at 12:28 PM ^
Ross and RJS are the #2 and #3 rated MLB on Scout. One of the Bama kids is #1 and a 5 star. Just a little FYI to all the posters. (Also, they have the #6 MLB too and a top 10 OLB)
August 26th, 2011 at 12:29 PM ^
Best OL class, 2nd best DL, 2nd best LB's. Incredible job by Hoke and Co.
August 26th, 2011 at 12:31 PM ^
I'm going to be in the minority here but I don't care if they're rating us above or below Bama...if we're recruiting near what they are...we're doing alright.
August 26th, 2011 at 12:44 PM ^
Agree. Coming in with 247's second-ranked LB and DE groups doesn't register too highly on my outrage meter.
August 26th, 2011 at 12:32 PM ^
I'm sure this has been posted in other threads, but you can get position group rankings on Rivals as well: http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/teamrank/2012/all/te;_ylt=AqpNIzmv6xIG6NcJyVJt.m5JPZB4
Michigan's rank
OL: #1
TE: #4
DT: #4 (tie w/ Florida)
DE: #3
LB: #1
DB: #1
We're ranked in the Top 5 for all position groups in which we've recruited any players. This is Incredibly Hokeishly Tremendously. I mean, phenomenal.
August 26th, 2011 at 4:20 PM ^
Really impressive! Speaks volumes to the fantastic job they are doing on the recruiting trail.
Hopefully when all is said and done we move up higher on the DT side and enter the top 5 for wide receivers as well.
August 26th, 2011 at 8:13 PM ^
to see that we have the #1 ranked DB class. Definitely not complaining though.
August 26th, 2011 at 12:35 PM ^
Does anyone remember TomVH getting negged for his posts on the Board? I think the same courtesy should be shown to Ace and Heiko, at least for the first month or so. Then we can make them feel right at home by blasting away like we do to other MGoMembers.
August 26th, 2011 at 12:42 PM ^
I don't condone this (obviously) but the vast majority of Tom's posts were something like +49 -2 etc. Some random trolls always log on to neg regardless of content.
August 26th, 2011 at 4:04 PM ^
wish we could go back to those +43 days
August 26th, 2011 at 12:52 PM ^
I just find it funny.
1. I can see who they are.
2. My points are irrelevant, and I can adjust them whenever.
Keep trollin', trolls!
(At the same time, if you decide to upvote me, I certainly won't decline a point/ego boost.)
August 26th, 2011 at 12:59 PM ^
Now I have a bunch. Does this make me more credible? Probably not.
August 26th, 2011 at 2:37 PM ^
MGoBlog - Where Ace has over 9,000 points! Thanks for the post Ace. I guess we will see next year vs Bama!
August 26th, 2011 at 1:18 PM ^
Are not profiting from this post...
August 26th, 2011 at 1:38 PM ^
I am sorry. I cannot look at these posts and see "Ace:" and think anything other than, "I cannot believe that fucking clown Ace Williams is posting on MGoBlog". I might get over it, someday.
This is my roundabout way of asking the real Ace how much he hates Ace Williams.
August 26th, 2011 at 2:03 PM ^
I've been on the Michigan blogosphere far longer than that guy. I don't steal content. I post under my actual name (I won't say "real," because Ace is a nickname, but if you really want to know my real name is Harry and I think I've posted that somewhere on here, plus literally every person who knows me at all calls me Ace). My twitter avatar is a picture of me, not some photo stolen from a post about men's hairstyles or a hilariously-bad photoshop job of some completely different guy.
I don't hate the guy. I just think it's ridiculous that people even pay attention to him. I find the fact that people see the name 'Ace' on a Michigan blog of repute and immediately think of that clown very, very sad, and I hope that changes in the very near future.
/rant
August 26th, 2011 at 2:35 PM ^
Much respect for the Wire reference
August 26th, 2011 at 1:53 PM ^
UNACCEPTABLE!
I AM ANGAR!
August 26th, 2011 at 2:47 PM ^