Today is the day....Maybe
So we've finally come to the day where the buckheads have to go before the committee to see what the punishment will be for the "self-reported" violations. I have a feeling were not gonna see much happen today and all that second letter and talk about another investigation ensures me that today will just be another fail on the committees part....
August 12th, 2011 at 9:08 AM ^
I dont think the committee announces the result for several months.
August 12th, 2011 at 9:43 AM ^
Is when the you know what hits the fan...
August 12th, 2011 at 10:10 AM ^
You are correct sir. This is OSU's chance to formally respond and answer questions and then the proverbial verdict comes down several months later.
August 12th, 2011 at 3:58 PM ^
Yes, we cheated for ten years
Yes, the Vest is a fraud
Yes, we lied
What is there to defend?
August 12th, 2011 at 9:08 AM ^
I thought the punishment wouldn't be handed out until like multiple weeks after it?
August 12th, 2011 at 9:13 AM ^
It wont be, today is Gene Smith's chance to try and BS his way into lesser penalties
August 12th, 2011 at 9:14 AM ^
Like the final Seinfeld episode, where they bring back all the characters that the crew had screwed over at some point to testify about their lack of humanity....
Bring back Clarret, Troy Smith, Pryor, etc...
August 12th, 2011 at 10:24 AM ^
hahahah. good episode!
August 12th, 2011 at 11:48 AM ^
Guess the stress is getting to his black heart at last...
August 12th, 2011 at 9:20 AM ^
It will be 6-8 weeks before we find out what the committee has decided. Hopefully more allegations arise during that period so they can send out a LOIC!
August 12th, 2011 at 9:26 AM ^
Yeah, isn't today more akin to a hearing, with the sentencing coming in several weeks?
August 12th, 2011 at 9:28 AM ^
Unless J.T. goes batshit and spills the beans or TP makes an appearance driving a Lexus, we’ll have to wait a couple of months(still good). Now IF “Ellis” and a new NOA comes to light…
August 12th, 2011 at 9:31 AM ^
< blockquote>The most recent spate of violations at Ohio State overlapped with probation remaining from when the men's basketball program committed major violations under then-coach Jim O'Brien in 2004. That makes Ohio State a so-called repeat violator and could affect the school's treatment by the NCAA.9</blockquote>
We already knew this but seeing it typed just gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling all over
August 12th, 2011 at 9:38 AM ^
You have to switch over to Plain Text editor for HTML tags to work.
August 12th, 2011 at 10:35 AM ^
Thanks, I was going nuts trying to figure out why my HTML wasn't playing nice
August 12th, 2011 at 9:40 AM ^
A lot of build up and anticipation but you wake up the next day disappointed.
August 12th, 2011 at 11:49 AM ^
Prom is synonymous with "letdown" for most kids.
August 12th, 2011 at 9:40 AM ^
There will be no resolution today and the NCAA will say little to nothing. But these hearings can offer a hint as to whether the school's proposed penalties will be accepted by the NCAA or augmented. If a grueling, six-hour hearing unfolds, that's not good for Ohio. It can mean the NCAA is challenging the school's findings.
I say the NCAA will apply an additional penalty, most likely loss of scholarships but unlikely to include a bowl ban. If there is a bowl ban, would only be one year. But loss of scholarships is quite a punishment and will have a major impact on the Buckeyes for 3-4 years. And it's what they deserve since Tressel was obviously cheating from the moment he arrived and all the talk in the early days that Maurice Clarett was crazy may have been true, but he wasn't lying about all the extra benefits he got. If the NCAA had been looking the whole time, the Buckeyes aleady would have been stripped of their ill-gotten national title and a number of players, including guys like Santonio Holmes, would have had their careers cut short because they were getting paid by agents and others.
No matter how this goes, Ohio is getting off easy compared to what they did. They're getting punished for trading memorabilia for tattoos, and possibly some cash deals and favorable car arrangements. Compared to the blatant cheating that holier-than-thou Jimmy Swaggart Tressel condoned, and even participated in, over 10 years, most Ohio fans would tell you it was worth it for the wins.
August 12th, 2011 at 11:08 AM ^
"a grueling, six-hour hearing" ? USC's hearing lasted for 3 days! Of course they had 31 charges to answer to.
August 12th, 2011 at 4:20 PM ^
They cheated for a decade and cost Lloyd a dream exit in 2006. The class that was Lloyd Carr should have gone out with a national championship. Troy Smith was ineligible for that game.
August 12th, 2011 at 9:54 AM ^
The Plains-Dealer just posted video of the OSU particpants walking into the conference room. Does THIS look like a confident group? They all look like Roger Clemens before his congressional hearing...
http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/2011/08/ohio_states_ncaa_hearing_under.html
August 12th, 2011 at 9:58 AM ^
OSU Misremembers Stuff Defense.
August 12th, 2011 at 10:11 AM ^
On the possibility that the NCAA levies additional punishment:
"I'll be shocked and disappointed and on the offensive," Smith told The Associated Press. "It'll be behavior you haven't witnessed."
What the heck does that mean? He's going to climb a clocktower with a high powered rifle? He's going to burn the school to the ground? He'll call the NCAA officials dirty names? Non stop crank calls?
The athletic director of one of the largest and most successful college athletics programs in the nation basically just told the press that if you fuck with him, he'll go crazy, so you'd better not fuck with him.
August 12th, 2011 at 11:00 AM ^
Smith has to be the Mouth of OSU Arrogance. The fact that TSIO has tolerated his unprofessional public behavior speaks volumes about who really rules the roost in Columbus. I hope the NCAA is not amused by Smith's display of arrogance in this case. And I'm incredibly thankful every day knowing we have someone like David Brandon vs. a complete ashat like Smith in charge.
August 12th, 2011 at 11:17 AM ^
I guess when Gordon Gee said he hoped Tressel wouldn't fire him, he wasn't joking—he was being dead serious.
The NCAA is the weak, cowardly, trembling middle-school teacher who's afraid to confront the trouble-makers in his class because he fears they'll slash the tires on his Sunbird. So instead he periodically makes a big show of disciplining some harmless, play-by-the-rules kid for the huge sin of using a ballpoint instead of a #2 pencil on a test.
August 12th, 2011 at 11:03 AM ^
They can threaten to form an "outlaw" super-conference. No holds barred recruiting, extra benefits, no academic requirements etc. Of course it'll all be couched in language about how unfair the NCAA is to student athletes. Here they'll provide a true minor league equivalent while still giving players a chance to go to school. It might scare somebody at the NCAA.
August 12th, 2011 at 11:09 AM ^
He's basically ordering the NCAA to not levy any additional charges or he'll get really mad.
Since all indications are that the NCAA is going to withdraw turtle-like into its protective shell and ignore the mountain of evidence pointing to a lack of institutional control at a prominent program, it has de facto declared its own impotence and irrelevance.
In combination with its outright refusal to do any meaningful investigation of Auburn, there is literally no reason why any major program should pay attention to NCAA regulations. All you need to do is stonewall and deny, deny, deny.
So not only is the NCAA corrupt, it's also incompetent.
August 12th, 2011 at 10:27 AM ^
May the many meetings and new cycles between here and the Army All American Bowl game be filled with squirrely excuses, denials of lack of institutional control, player complaints and new findings continue AND may we take all the recruits we want from them and beat their team to a stinking pulp at the end of the season.
Amen.
....oh, and I want a new Maize and Blue pony for Christmas.
August 12th, 2011 at 10:49 AM ^
and amen.
August 12th, 2011 at 11:56 AM ^
So say we all.
August 12th, 2011 at 10:29 AM ^
Dan Wetzel tweeted this morning that his "sources" have said that unless Tress says something crazy, new allegations from the NCAA are unlikely.
August 12th, 2011 at 11:27 AM ^
Caption under the video -- "Ohio State administrators, including president Gordon Gee, athletic director Gene Smith and football coach Gene Smith, walk into the NCAA hearing room on Aug. 12, 2011."
Gene just promoted himself to football coach. Unfuckingbelieveable.
August 12th, 2011 at 12:27 PM ^
Nothing will come of this, Ohio will get off with an additional probabtion year. NCAA president Mark Emmert went to U of Colorado with Gordon Gee.
August 12th, 2011 at 12:40 PM ^
Per the Tweeter, the meeting is already over and Gee is going to address the media soon. That was fast.
August 12th, 2011 at 12:59 PM ^
seven and half hours for the extra stretching hearing...sheesh. Sounds like a thorough investigation of 6 players, 1 rogue coach, 2+ years of violations, while under probation for a previous rogue coach...
August 12th, 2011 at 3:37 PM ^
is my prediction. NCAA doesn't have the cojones to do anything.