Helmet Stickers Might Be Back
I don't know what it says because it is behind a paywall but the title probably says it all.
You chastize board posters who pretend to know what players think and yet your interject what you think your opinion would be if your were a player? How is that better than what you just chastized?
What exactly does retarded look like?
Its is not that players set a goal before each play to get a sticker, the sticker is recognition for accomplishing a set goal or making a great play. Goals could be for total yards allowed,rushing yards allowed, total points allowed, getting of the field on third down, third down efficiency, red zone efficiency, big hits, pancakes, etc. When I played, it was my goal to pancake the man across from me on every single play, a sticker would not have motivated me any more to do that, but getting that concrete recognition from my staff and peers would have been really neat too. Pro's have incentive laden contracts which acts in a similar way. Should contracts not have incentives in the NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, or in business?
Yes please.
Memories of my youth watching Howard, Grbac, Wheatley, etc.
If we do i'd like them to be rectangular-ish and long/slim so they can arrange them somehow so it doesn't take a few to start cluttering the helmet
Bo did it. Why question it. If you are to young to remember it give it a chance.
They look stupid
but I can live with them.
They are better off than the throwback prototypes we saw.
Then, I hope Hoke limits the stickers to a few! I did not like the 80s and even up through Mo where helmets were filled with stickers and you could not see the wings!
I don't mind the stickers too much. We did it before, why not do it again? All that really matters is the play on the field, and the integrity of the program.
Actually we would not be copying Osu... Bo started it early on and Woody like it and started it at OSU around 70,71
I personally hate the stickers.
The team, the team, the team.
I like the irony of using Bo Schembechler's famous six-word quote as part of your comment declaring your dislike for the very thing Bo started.
Winner boys and girls. I couldnt have said that any better Don. My sentiments exactly.
is that a poster finally used irony in its proper context. Many on this board should take note.
So your argument is that Bo is completely unfallible and beyond reproach?
Wow...
you agree with EVERYTHING Bo ever did
or NOTHING.
You can't like most everything Bo did and disagree with a few things based on your own thoughts and analysis? It is not ironic, since Bo wanted his coaches to fight with him for what they thought was right, and respected this. Lloyd took them off, and he was a Bo disciple. Crisler and Yost never used them either. It is ok to not like them and makes you no worse or better of a fan of Bo.
Denard's going to be wearing a solid gold helmet by November...
Denard's not going to be transferring to stinkin Notre Dame. I hate gold almost as much as I hate silver with sparkles in it.
MAIZE. Coffee, where are you?
Putting aside my feelings about OSU, they have one of the nicer helmets in college football.
Open your mouth-- now, Irish Spring or Zest??
Maybe some Lifeboy for that dirty mouth?
These guys are not Buckeyes with the equivalent of a nursery school education, needing to be pointed to the bathroom and getting a star when they spell "tattoo," or "auto." Leave well enough alone, Brady, I beg.
riled. But it would still suck.
Instead of stickers maybe they can get merit badges on the unis!
/s
why not locker stickers, or sitcker patches for thier letter jackets, or something similar, but not on the helmet.
Or like a sticker book where they can collect the different stickers they've earned and show them off to their friends after class. The unicorn sticker would be the most rare, but everyone would want it.
miniature American flags for others
Never understood why singling out individual players on a team sport was such a good idea. Say one of our running backs gets a touchdown, is he the only one to get a sticker? How about the linemen that created the hole, or the fullback that was the lead blocker? The same could be said about a touchdown pass, does the QB and the WR each get one? What about the linemen in pass protection, or the other WR that may have opened up a lane with his route?
The Team's success in an effort by all the student athletes on the Team! Saying these players are better or more successful marginalizes the other players not in the so-called "skill positions".
Maybe I'm just a bitter ex-lineman though...
PS: Don't clutter up the helmets! Best looking helmets in college football, no need to ruin them.
I would think that Hoke and the rest of the staff have enough experience with the X's and O's to be able to recognize good plays all over the field and hand out stickers to anybody that deserves one. I doubt that you would see the typical media bias toward the skill positions.
Also, I don't think that rewarding individual effort is counter-productive to the team atmosphere. Anytime a player works hard, he's likely still doing it for the team. Think about what Hoke has said about how he wants the practices to look (and I think Aaron Wellman, the S&C coach has said similar things): competition all the time. Every drill, every snap, every rep is going to be done competitively. That doesn't mean that the teammates competing against each other aren't teammates. The competition is good for the team. Individual effort is what makes a team.
They look like trash on M helmets, it just mucks up the wings. It also takes away from the team, the team, the team concept.
This is hilarious. Do you know who uttered "The team, the team, the team?"
Bo Schembechler.
Do you know who introduced helmet stickers?
Bo Schembechler.
So you're saying that the guy who you're quoting about the "team concept" introduced something that takes away from the "team concept."
but not perfect. He was wrong about the helmet stickers. They are contradictory to the team philosophy, so yes, that's what I'm saying.
So is every post-season award handed out by the UM football program at the team banquet. Those are individual awards that emphasize individual accomplishments. Just like the Heisman Trophy. That's contradictory to the team philosophy as well.
and the helmet stickers. I feel that wearing the stickers is like actually carrying your award around with you. There's a time for individual recognition, but I don't think it should be worn on your sleeve, or your helmet. The Heisman comes from outside, so not much can be done about that. Besides the philosophy behind them, I also just think they detract from an already perfect design.
I agree. The helmet stickers were a mistake.
As pointed out, Bo started the stickers at Miami. Perhaps by the time he delivered the famous "team" comment, he'd realized by then that the stickers had run their course.
Anyway, a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.
Anyway, a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.Is this a quote in your sig line or did you really just come up with that? I applaud your linguistic effort if you just wrote that. Hobgoblin? Well done.
but I stole it from Ralph Waldo Emerson
I'm betraying my science background. Good usage anyway.
Perhaps by the time he delivered the famous "team" comment, he'd realized by then that the stickers had run their course.Unlikely, given that he delivered the speech in 1983 and kept the helmet stickers to the end of his career.
Hoke said back in spring that stickers WONT be coming back. I believe him over this
It's what i grew up with watching UM football. If it was good enough for Bo, it should be good enough for everybody.
Good enough for Bo.
Good enough for me.
That is all.
I think the stickers should be little blue dots that go up the yellow stripes from the back, until all the yellow stripes and wings are covered in blue dots. /s
not a fan of helmet stickers.
there's no "I" in wings. Oh. Um... they lost their wings?
Good one.
Not a fan of helmet stickers on the winged helmet... just my $0.02. For me it's not really a matter of tradition or whether or not having individual accomplishments acknowledged is a good idea; I just think it looks ugly...
Michigan football is legendary. Legendary is Bo. Bo used helmet stickers.
I do not like your logic. Here's an alternative:
Michigan football helmets are iconic. Stickers are not iconic. Michigan football helmets should not have stickers.