2011 NFL Draft
Its sports holiday today! The NFL Draft has to be one of my five favorite days on the sports calendar.
The Lions pick at 13 tonight, I have no idea who they'll draft. I've heard Tyron Smith, Prince Am, Bowers, Kerrigan, etc. I think all Lions fans can agree that they need help on OL and every aspect of defense.
What do you like best about the draft? Will it be when they draft Cam Newton, say he's a "cant miss" and 3 years later he's riding the pine? But like the commercial says...its where championships are built, I'm counting down the clock...
Also if interested, Todd McShay's 7 round mock draft, you have to be an espn insider:
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2011/insider/news/story?page=mcshayfullmockdraft
Ive heard alot of tryone smith since dallas is trying to trade out or that OT from BC
but i seriously wouldnt mind a CB or Bowers, i think Bowers is a good risk high reward player at the 13th pick.
Bowers stock has been taking a huge hit on injury concerns. I wouldnt mind drafing Bowers if hes still around in the early 2nd round and maybe moving up to grab him. Mayhew has said that its almost certain that the Lions will make a trade.
I cant wait its like christmas.
I wouldnt mind jumping up late in the first round for him and I wouldnt mind us finding a way to get up 2 five for Peterson everyones saying the cardunals want out.
I wouldn't mind moving up a few spots in the late first / early second to make a run at Marvin Austin. I think he could be vastly underrated.
We have to get another DT to help Suh out who ever it is can be a beast with Suh getting all the attention.
We have Corey WIlliams and Sammie Lee Hill at DT. I say focus on the secondary, O-line, and linebackers. I also think we could use another wide reciever. This team is getting there, but we still have a lot of needs
The lions finished 24th in rush defense and 16th in pass defense. I dont want a cb unless its a stud Smith and houston did solid jobs i would like a run stuffing DT a MLB and a SS to help with the run.
Also i dont think WR is a big need since we have 2 great recieving TEs who play the slot well and a great recieving RB. Some o line upgrades wouldnt hurt either.
This. The O-Lineman in this draft aren't exactly world beaters and not worthy of a low-mid first round pick. If Prince drops to 13 and the Lions don't take him I may throw something at the TV. Someone opposite of Delmas at safety is important aswell. I think the Lions can also pick up, who appears to be a vastly underrated LB, Mason Foster from Washington in the middle rounds.
What are you talking about? DT is probably the deepest position on this team. They are extremely happy with Williams, Sammie Lee Hill was a wonderful find and looks solid, and I seem to recall we have another really good DT as well.
They are looking to move back if possible.
There are rumors that Patriots might move down to get Mark Ingram. IMO I think you can get better value later in the draft at RB position, but Bill Belichick is draft master and has a Saban connection.
one of the top overall prospect in the draft will fall to 2nd round. I still think he won't fall past the Lions IMO.
I would love for the Lions to get Prince. I've seen mocks where hes gone, he falls to the lions, or he goes past the lions. In any case, i think our priority should be CB, and that might mean Jimmy Smith. He, potential-wise, might be better than Prince, but he comes with MSU-like character concerns.
I'd settle for tyron smith or daquan bowers as second choices tho
Yesterday on 97.1 they were talking Jimmy Smith's "character issues", supposedly hes had tons of off field issues. I think theres a fine line because you want high character guys but then again you dont want to pass up on great players because of past mistakes.
I read an article a few days ago (sorry, no link) that said all of his trouble happened 2-3 years ago and that he has grown up.
specifically Caputo, Valenti and Foster - just a mass of hot air.
Plus some other super fun stuff that might be a little too political for the board. http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/blog/2011/04/a_look_at_jimmy_smiths_red_flags.html
Maybe it is just because the lockout is looming (I know it was enjoined yesterday, but it will be appealed) but I have had zero interest in t his year's draft. Hopefully my Giants are able to get somebody who can really help them next year (OL or LB) but I think I may just watch Steve Carell's farewell on The Office and check out draft results later.
I agree. That and the fact the Lions have a later than usual pick and there are no Michigan players expected to go early.
The court denied the motion for stay while the appeal was pending, and I have no reason to believe the injunction will be overturned on appeal. Who knows how this thing will turn out.
I love Mayhew's approach to drafting. You basically have to watch the entire thing because you never know when he's going to move around for a pick. Every year he does some head-scratchers that end up looking brilliant when you see the guy play. Other things:
-Mel Kiper being an idiot / Seething hatred between Kiper and McShay.
-Awkwardness inherent in 38 hours of coverage.
-Borderline homo-erotic phrasing.
-Al Davis being Al Davis.
-Seeing where the Michigan guys go (and therefore deciding which teams to like)
He actually wasn't himself last year. His first round pick was...Rolando McClain, a productive college player, who then went on to have a productive rookie season. Everyone thought he'd take Bruce Campbell, an unproductive college player who did well at the combine, in the first, and indeed Davis took Campbell...in the fourth.
My Raiders have no first round pick this year, so there's less opportunity for Al to blow his money on a big/fast guy who can't really play.
I just hope Newton doesn't get picked first overall. Yeah, I know it looks unlike right now, but I can still hope. If he doesn't go at one I could see him falling way down the board. PP should be the No. 1 pick. He has a freak athlete.
the o/u for newton's career arc vince young.
and i'm taking the under.
He cartainly didn't help his case on Gruden interview. It took him several 'ho-hums' before he could name a single play they ran at Auburn. Then he went with "38". Yeah, not really an NFL playbook there.
The promo says, "Newton: he adds pages to your playbook". Not if he can't read it.
And then he used a GUN as an analogy for how he handles criticism. The look on Gruden's face was priceless! If the over/under was Jamarcus Russell, I still might take the under. I've never seen so many negatives on a prospect being talked about in the top 10, let alone #1!
- No experience with NFL playbook
- Questionable intelligence (flunked out of UF, not exactly Harvard)
- Questionable on the field decision making
- Laundry list of off the field concerns
- Not overly impressive when talking with media (face of franchise? - yikes!)
- Only proved himself in 1 yr of college experience
- Lack of success experienced by spread qbs in NFL
And with all these negatives, what are you drafting? A freak athlete with a decent arm? Doesn't sound like a #1 pick to me...
there was an espn piece that studided qb's from national championship teams in the nfl....none of them make it
Genreally they are surronded by the best players in college, and don't have to do much themselves. Stars of the nfl normally were on medicore to good, but not great college teams.
i.e. Flacco d2
Ryan BC
Stafford Georgia
and thats just recently
UNDER. Vince Young's career isn't that bad. He has a winning record as a starter. Cam Newton will be much worse.
Vince's career has had some major blemishes that aren't win-loss related. It's far from finished, but those are still part of the arc. Nevertheless, I agree Cam's will be worse based on nothing but a belief in cosmic justice.
Fair enough. He proved to be a handful off the field for the Titans. I was just focusing on the win/loss record because I happen to like Vince Young and can't stand Cam Newton.
every aspect of the lions defense does not need help. i feel confident about our front line, and delmas, so only a shade over half our defense needs a complete overall. sad that's actually progress...
I honestly don't care who they get as long as he plays defense.
mcshay has mouton going before greg jones...........interesting
Greg Jones is going to go late. He really isn't impressive on film and MSU hype only goes so far.
I agree jones is not very good. He has tons of tackles but as a mlb those stats can be misleading
and he's a Sparty, so that's an issue in and of itself
Lions go either Castonzo, Tyron Smith or Prince. I would be happy with any of them. I can't wait for the draft to start, I love it.
Greg Jones would have been drafted higher had he stayed another year. Who knows maybe someone grabs him in the 3rd round, did anyone see Denever grabbing Tebow in the 1st round last year?
Greg Jones was a senior....he would have been drafted higher last year possibly
As mentioned above, Jones stayed for his senior year, which likely hurt his draft stock. His production went down across the board, and he did not grade out well at the combine or on film.
Det News link: http://www.detnews.com/article/20110426/SPORTS0202/104260332/Senior-season-lowers-MSU-linebacker-Greg-Jones%E2%80%99-draft-status
Isn't the problem his size? He was a great tackler in college, but I think he only had 1 INT his entire career.
What is a "Lion's fan"? I don't think I've ever seen one out in public.
Obviously you haven't seen me in my super-fly Lem Barney throwback.
Who is this guy? My family has had season tickets since the 70s and even when we went 0-16 the lions still had a good number of fans in the stands.
Some people must have no sarcasm meter whatsoever. I know at least three people who openly admit they are Lions fans.
Also one of my favorite times to watch tv... The only problem is that they moved it from Saturday. I used to have a badass all day grill and drink party when it was on Saturday. Now that it's Friday night, it sucks donkey balls for trying to throw a party. My NFL team is the Colts, and we're about to pick up a left tackle at 22. I think Detroit should trade back and get more picks, but if they stay at 12 they should pick up the highest rated DB available.
I keep hearing Nick Fairley for the Lions...interesting, to say the least. Don't really want him but our D-Line would be set for years. Should be very interesting come 8 o'clock.
I am just pissed that Oakland doesn't have a pick in the first round - it's always funny to watch them take whoever runs the fastest 40 regardless of need or skill level