Jalen Rose Arrest Report Emerges
Local news profiled the incident with video so I presume this is available on the internets in some capacity:
Claimed he "does not drink," seems to intentionally avoid blowing into the machine properly multiple (3-5 times at least), can't walk a straight line or even lift his leg up for longer than 8 seconds.
Forgets where he's going while under arrest and has to be told repeatedly where he's being taken (jail), why he's under arrest (drunk driving) or what .08 means ("what's .8?").
Flat out ridiculous. His public comments are an embarrassment in hindsight as he tried to make it out as if he was the victim of circumstance and confusion. Instead he's obviously a liar who got caught breaking the law and then did a ridiculous campaign of damage control that is absurd.
These efforts are almost on par with the MSU athletes' when confronted by police. Count me out of his fan club. TIA.
April 20th, 2011 at 11:18 PM ^
Anger FTW, OP?
If Mike 'Dog Murderer' Vick gets a second chance I'm willing to consider it here. Sometimes members of the family make serious mistakes.
April 20th, 2011 at 11:22 PM ^
I'm not that worried about Rose. He'll pay his fine and people will forget about it in a few months (unless he is in discussions for replacing a coach that this message board loves, then a DUI means the world).
Vick may have gotten a 2nd chance, but he also got roasted all over the place especially on this message board. I think the OP is well within his rights to rip a guy for drinking a driving and then not taking responsibility and completely misleading the public on what went down.
April 20th, 2011 at 11:22 PM ^
i didn't call for him to be fired. or anything remotely. but the fact is he put, no pun intended, a full court press on the fact this was all a misunderstanding and he had no idea he had too much to drink, etc. but when his integrity was called upon to stand out, he flat out lied to save his own ass. to take to Twitter, etc, to claim you didn't think you were over the limit but know you lied to cops the night of your arrest by saying "you don't drink," like at all, is a joke. way too many people, myself included, enjoyed some kicks at the teenagers on MSU's team who got nailed for being idiots. guess what - we have our own grownup idiot to be embarrassed by.
April 20th, 2011 at 11:50 PM ^
I'm not embarrased by Jalen... shit happens. I would be embarrased if this was a regular thing and he was actually attending the school currently.
April 21st, 2011 at 11:30 AM ^
how can you claim you don't drink when a week before the arrest an espn special about the fab five came out and showed pictures of you with a 40 in your hand? get it together Jalen...
April 21st, 2011 at 12:00 PM ^
Ok, so if there was a picture of me taken 20 years ago smoking pot, then I cannot claim that I do not smoke pot? Even if I didn't smoke pot in between?
Maybe Jalen doesn't drink. College and life after college are two very different time periods.
Now, he obviously does, because he got a DWI, but you get my point.
April 21st, 2011 at 11:46 AM ^
Perhaps someday Rose will earn a second chance...but you really have to earn that. Mike Vick paid his dues, has been contrite, and (so far) done all the right things. Not sure that i personally forgive him but the point is that you have to earn your second chances...have to seem worthy of being forgiven...and usually that requires the perspective of time and change of actions.
I'm with the OP. I'm done with Rose....at least for now.
April 20th, 2011 at 11:28 PM ^
Thought this might have been Derrick Rose. Thanks for the clarification.
[Edit: after reading the entire post, I was a little light on you. Everyone makes mistakes. Sorry your life is so boring you have never been faced with something like Jalen did. Not everyone is perfect, but apparently you are.]
[Edit 2: Initial title was "Rose Arrest Report Emerges"]
April 20th, 2011 at 11:29 PM ^
but i've also had the integrity to own it. i've been candid when making mistakes, to family, friends and others. you're telling me that you don't have expectations that rose would use his mistake to teach others how to avoid making a similar mistake? his tweets and public comments blamed poor judgment - truth be told all that's true is he's annoyed he got caught.
edit was made to avoid any bait and switch concerns.
I'm not going to defend drunk driving, but seriously? The mistake was driving drunk, something he'll certainly be punished for. But you've determined that he lacks the "integrity to own it" because he's calling it a mistake in judgment? Instead of saying, before any legal proceedings have been completed, that he was 100% in the wrong and undoubtedly broke the law? Would an intelligent person do that? Being drunk and lying to the cops on the scene is not proof that someone is just annoyed they got caught, it's proof that person was drunk and didn't want to get arrested.
It'd be great if Jalen was actually Jesus, but the fact is he made a serious mistake and admitted it. I'm not impressed by his actions, but that's certainly a reasonable response. Only the most holier-than-thou Michigan Men would think he should march through the town square whipping himself until they are satisfied that he's "owning it." What a bunch of self-righteous and self-important nonsense (though, considering the source, I'm not shocked).
i'm calling it a complete lack of integrity to tell a police officer you don't drink in an effort to get away with drunk driving. then, when you're so drunk you can't do several sobriety tests properly and have to have the "you're under arrest for OWI" explained 2-3 times during the ride, it's probably not a good idea to try to do damage control by claiming it was a matter of circumstances. it lacks integrity to try to spin something when you're 100% in the wrong. that is what he did immediately following the news reports.
i'm not saying he should have spilled his guts and told the whole story. but he also could have simply said "a mistake was made that i take 100% responsibility for." not the spin story of not knowing he was over and falling back on a BAC that obviously wasn't indicative of where he was in terms of intoxication given these arrest reports/video.
April 21st, 2011 at 10:19 AM ^
Drunk driving is not a mistake it is a choice. Driving is not a right it is a privledge. Look anyone in the eye who has ever lost someone to a drunk driver and tell them that driving drunk is a "my bad".
April 21st, 2011 at 11:07 AM ^
this is you agreeing with me considering i'm making that point plus some.
April 21st, 2011 at 11:20 AM ^
IMO this is the only point that really matters and that the penalties for drunk driving are too soft. Looking through this thread it is disgusting that a "first time" offense is passed off as the simple consequence of leading a life with good times.
Part of handeling your high is never get behind the wheel after getting your party on. An offender has the right to dignity and I am not down with publicly outing someone however getting behind the wheel of a car drunk you might as well hand then the controls to a cruise missle becuase people die-or worse.
Jalen deserves no solace but I am nobody to judge him either.
April 20th, 2011 at 11:31 PM ^
So we're not allowed to criticize anyone for doing anything wrong? I guess we need to rethink all those Tressel and Pryor threads. Or is your policy to not criticize anyone affiliated with Michigan, but everyone else is fine to go after?
April 20th, 2011 at 11:39 PM ^
Criticizing the man is one thing, another thing is to create a thread on MGoBlog for thousands of others to read.
And when it's one of your own, versus a tOSU player/grad, it's different.
April 21st, 2011 at 12:03 AM ^
Sweep it under when ours do it, throw it on front page when someone else does it. Because that doesn't scream hypocrisy
Not going to beat the dead horse endlessly, but - you're right, if we ignored this here we would be hypocrites. No reason not to post this stuff. But it's quite amusing that the guy playing the hypocrite card claims he has OWNED all of the "dumb shit" he's ever done in his life.
I think the halo fittings are down the hall.
i'm saying i've never shied away from taking full responsibility for my mistakes. my ire for rose is two-fold: the owi and trying to make it out like he's the victim of escalated drunk driving laws, not the fact, you know, he was blitzed and should never have been driving.
You having a rough morning, man? Need a hug?
April 21st, 2011 at 11:13 AM ^
No it's not.
April 21st, 2011 at 12:15 AM ^
Sorry your life is so boring you have never been faced with something like Jalen did.wow, so if you're not drunk driving, your life is boring? your EXTREME life sounds really awesome. and dangerous. and asshole-ish.
April 21st, 2011 at 12:17 AM ^
Involve Mountain Dew and a wide variety of extreme sports I bet
April 21st, 2011 at 12:23 AM ^
Xtreme pterodactyl, bro
Fawk yeah! Go green, go white! What is your profession!!
April 20th, 2011 at 11:30 PM ^
Poor decision, but what really hurts Jalen was the timing. With the Fab 5 documentary success he got a lot of attention...and then this situation is brought up to ESPN. Doesn't mean I still don't like the guy--that will only happen if he continues to make poor decisions that reflect poorly on him or the university.
April 20th, 2011 at 11:36 PM ^
just sayin'
April 20th, 2011 at 11:54 PM ^
Judge Small doesn't mess around when it comes to DUI. She might decide to make an example of him given his celebrity status
He has Small? He's boned; she likes to throw the average 1st DUI into jail for a week or two, I can only imagine what she'll do to Jalen.
April 20th, 2011 at 11:44 PM ^
People make mistakes, don't freak out about it. If you haven't had at least 1 semi-close run in with the police you aren't living in my opinion. Also, he doesn't even attend the university anymore, I'd rather have him getting a DUI than half our football team fighting a bunch of frat kids.
April 20th, 2011 at 11:45 PM ^
Relax.
April 20th, 2011 at 11:49 PM ^
.088 after two hours at the precinct/hospital. While I agree that the previous poster should relax a bit..."he who has not sinned shall cast the first stone"...it's clear he was too intoxicated to be driving. I'm still a fan of his, nevertheless.
your blood alcohol level (not necessarily your state of inebriation) is usually a little higher an hour or so after your last drink--so whether it would have higher or lower at the time of the stop is speculative.
April 21st, 2011 at 12:01 AM ^
And tell me that's 3 beers
If he doesn't really drink that much.
April 20th, 2011 at 11:46 PM ^
Oh and last week I just got a throwback Jalen jersey on ebay from when he played for the Nuggets, its pretty tight.
April 20th, 2011 at 11:52 PM ^
I was thinking about it, and do you think Supersonics's gear will be popular someday like Whalers' gear is now? I mean, they have some pretty loud stuff.
I'm not sure the 90's count as "throwback".
April 20th, 2011 at 11:53 PM ^
The only thing this report illustrates is that we was DRUNK. Wow, I thought we all could have figured that out from the charges, but I guess not.
Anyone who is drunk will act drunk. Just because a cop caught it on tape makes it WORSE?
I bet you that anyone here watching themselves stumble around drunk would be pretty embarrassed watching the tape at work or with their relatives. But, Jalen Rose is a public figure so his drunk tape makes the news and people can scream and yell about how "flat out ridiculous" he is acting. We can judge him.
That's sad.
BTW - From a legal perspective, you don't apologize and say you were so drunk that it was a big deal. I guess we can't be mad because he has a lawyer who passed the bar exam.
April 21st, 2011 at 12:00 AM ^
He relied on what appears to be a faulty +.08 to claim he was barely over and appealed to the "ah he just was off by a half hr, woulda been legal 10 yrs ago" mentality. The report shows this was far from the case. Other public celebrity DUIs have been handled 20x better, or at least with more integrity
April 21st, 2011 at 12:09 AM ^
I'm aware about legal accountability - unless his lawyer is going to claim this entire report was bad faith, this will be pled out. There's a huge diff, though, between claiming you simply made an error of judgement and doing what's right, which is to say you screwed up and are sorry for letting people down
So, you don't read these tweets as saying he screwed up and is sorry for letting people down? Is what really bothers you the use of the phrase "Lapse in judgment?" What would you have preferred for him to say? Do you, as a lawyer, really expect him to admit to much more before he goes to court?
the other two tweets should have been all he said. the first is where it's garbage. a single vehicle automobile accident in which he voluntarily submitted for a screening? he lies to the cops straight out and is forced to do a sobriety test that he fails quite badly. he then obviously tries to get out of it by improperly blowing into a straw. it takes a lot of nerve to claim those things while also noting he 'didn't feel impaired' and that he was 'confident it was safe to drive': he rolled an SUV while failing all sobriety tests and had to be explained multiple times why he was in the back of a cop car.
April 21st, 2011 at 12:28 PM ^
You're more critical than I am. That's fine, that's life.
April 20th, 2011 at 11:56 PM ^
in opinion between the jalen rose dui versus braylon edwards dui is absolutely staggering. when braylon gets one, its "what an embarrassment" . with jalen its "only one mistake." personally, i dont think either dui casts an embarassing light on the university, but its hard not to see the double standard on the board between the two.
April 21st, 2011 at 12:02 AM ^
Braylon only embarrasses Lloyd Carr's University of Michigan.
April 21st, 2011 at 12:02 AM ^
We would be slamming him. This is bad. I've read on here numerous times that drunk driving irreprehensible, so on and so forth, but now I see a lot of people saying it's not a big deal.
I understand when we have been defending Jalen and sticking up for Jalen to a lot of people lately for the fab 5 thing. You get attached, it meant something when you told people they were wrong about Jalen. I understand people not wanting to change their mind on Jalen after doing all that. But guess what, he screwed up, and it is a big deal. When Braylon did it, it was a big deal. When the MSU football player and basketball player did it, it was a big deal. When other teams ex-players do it, it's a big deal. When Jalen does it, it still is a big deal.
No, he didn't kill anyone, this isn't the end of the world, but face it, this is bad. This is on par with the MSU football players that I saw so many people bashing earlier. If you don't admit that you're being a hypocrite.
April 21st, 2011 at 12:39 AM ^
Have to agree with you. I'm willing to bet the majority of people we meet on a daily basis have driven over the limit. I'm also willing to bet that the people that get caught are doing it more often. Bottom line, Jalen got caught and he's going to accept the consequences. I'm not going to judge the man off of this. I hope he gets the help he needs correct it. Personally, I quit drinking 6 months ago and my lifes gotten considerably better. Sprite is a great alternative.
April 21st, 2011 at 11:16 PM ^
Isn't the fibbing about what happened not enough. He made a mistake that could be deadly AND THEN he missed an opportunity to man up about it
April 21st, 2011 at 12:35 PM ^
"This is on par with the MSU football players that I saw so many people bashing earlier."
I'm not about to come on here as a Jalen apologist, but there's a big difference between being an absolute dumbass and driving a car drunk, potentially hurting someone, and intentionally causing someone harm. Correct me if I'm wrong, but most DUI's that kill people fall into the manslaughter category (with provisions that if you're absolutely wasted and there's no question, like a .25 or something it can be 2nd degree murder) if the MSU football players had killed the guy, it would have been a murder charge. I think that's important to note.
I guess what I'm saying is the MSU players acted with malice, where Jalen did not. Jalen should not have done what he did, it's a terrible thing. But I don't think he did it maliciously.