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Submitted by oriental andrew on June 5th, 2013 at 11:54 AM

Not to drive traffic away from here (as if that's possible, amirite???), but the good folks at UMHoops have just set up a new message board/forum, which is open for business.  If you're looking for some dedicated basketball talk, would be worth taking a gander.

I'm not affiliated with UM Hoops at all, other than being a frequent visitor/reader and occasional commenter.  

Per UMHoops: Austin Hatch Reclassifies to 2014

Per UMHoops: Austin Hatch Reclassifies to 2014

Submitted by MGoShoe on September 5th, 2012 at 8:01 AM

As reported by WANE-TV via UMHoops:

WANE-TV is reporting that Michigan commitment Austin Hatch has been granted an additional year of eligibility by the IHSAA and will reclassify to the class of 2014. Here’s an excerpt of WANE-TV’s report:

Hatch informed WANE-TV that the IHSAA has granted him another year of eligibility per a letter written by Canterbury athletic director Ken Harkenrider to IHSAA commissioner Bobby Cox. [T]he IHSAA’s ruling allows Hatch eligibility for the 2012-13 and 2013-14 seasons. It is an unprecedented ruling in terms of the IHSAA.

Instead of signing with Michigan this November Hatch now has an extra year and will sign with U of M in November of 2013. Hatch says Michigan coach John Beilein and the program has said they will honor his scholarship any year and continue to support Austin.

The article states the Austin's goal is to become a doctor like his late father and the extra year of high school will help him prepare himself academically and athletically for the next stage of his life.

A most excellent decision by the IHSAA. Mitch McGary Interview (Pt 1) Mitch McGary Interview (Pt 1)

Submitted by MGoShoe on May 17th, 2012 at 4:23 PM

I want the traffic to go to, so I won't give you much if anything from the interview. It's sufficient to say that the interview is a must read. So go there and read it. And put comments into their comments block. Then come back here and put comments here.

I lied. This is awesome and deserves a block quote:

“We [he and Zack Novak] both have an assassin’s mentality — going after it no matter what, giving 110 percent, diving on the floor for loose balls. In high school Zack was kind of the main guy and then when he got to Michigan he told me, ‘You’re going to have to work for everything.’ So I guess something just clicked when I saw him his freshman year diving on the floor for loose balls and I thought, ‘If he’s doing that, why can’t I?’ Something clicked and we talked about it and that was big. I never really looked back. Since then I’ve had this Tyler Hansborough mentality, like a psycho-Mitch thing. I’m always trying to work harder than people on the court.” [emphasis added]

Draymond Green on Who Owns the State of Michigan

Draymond Green on Who Owns the State of Michigan

Submitted by MGoShoe on April 4th, 2011 at 11:40 AM has this interesting tidbit in this morning's round up:

Draymond Green took part in Sam Hosey’s Spartan Fastbreak Show and provided this quotes (transcribed by Joe Rexrode) in regards to what was worse: a first round NCAA loss or being swept by Michigan:

“I have to go with the loss to Michigan because that’s gonna stick with me forever right here (pointing to heart). Like, it hurts so bad, I didn’t know the feeling because I’d never lost to them prior to this year. And then to lose twice, it still bothers me. Because it’s Michigan and I hate, just, it makes them feel like they’re better than us. After them not winning at the Breslin for like 13 years, however long it was. And now they feel like this is their state. And this is Michigan State’s state. We own this state, it’s our state. And it gives them the hope and a crazy reason to think this is their state. And I completely disagree with that 100 percent.”

On the one hand, Green and MSU certainly have recent history on their side. On the other hand, U-M clearly won the battle of Michigan this season. The situations are, of course, reversed for football and so any arguments pro and con will have a nice mirror image quality to them (that is, if you're being intellectually honest -- and when it comes to rivalries, we all know that being intellectually honest is always the first consideration).

In the end, U-M's success will need to be duplicated for several more years before it can clearly be said that Green's assertion is unsupportable. That said, it's not crazy to think that it won't be the case soon enough.

GO EASIE(R) against Darius MOrris and Coach Beilein

GO EASIE(R) against Darius MOrris and Coach Beilein

Submitted by michfan4borw on January 30th, 2011 at 12:05 PM

I've recently been seeing criticism on mgoblog of Coach B's offense generally and of Darius Moriss specifically.  In consideration of this criticism, I've taken data from the most recent game to give a glimpse into the inadequacy of this criticism. 

Here's a link to and its "5 Key Plays" in the win against sparty at the Breslin Center (first win since 1997).  4 of the key plays show Michigan winning the battle with one of them showing the opposite.  Play 1: Novak's 4 point play early in the game; Play 2: C. Christian beats the shot clock for 2 pts.; Play 3: Draymond Green scores 3 pt. play in transition for sparty; Play 4: Novak for a long 3 pt. shot; Play 5 (2 plays actually): Stu Douglas hits 2 pt. shot late in the game and Douglass hits 3 pt. shot even later in the game.  Here it is for viewing (note Stapleton's statement): 

"Please let us know in the comments if you think we missed one. It seems weird that Darius isn’t explicitly featured in any of these."…


I can think of one commenter in this mgoblog community who feels it necessary to criticize DMo w/o any real support for that criticism--something about ball-hogging or not passing or not being a team player.  I can think of many users who criticize the offense/defense Coach B uses or the talent he recruits.  My responses:

1) Of the four--really five since Stu gets two plays in his one video clip--plays resulting in Michigan's favor, DMo assists on the play or does more.  Play 1:  DMo draws a double team and makes a skip (no look which freezes the defense) pass to Novak in corner who's open b/c his man dropped down to help on the open post guy b/c of the double team on DMo; Play 2: DMo drives--and draws an extra defender sufficiently away from Christian --and assists on the made shot by Christian; Play 4: DMo gets the rebound (offensive rebound!) off someone else's shot and then assists on a 3 pt. shot to Novak; Play 5: DMo assists on Stu's 2pt shot (admittedly Stu created that shot, but DMo still had to recognize Stu's comfort at that place on the floor in that situation to make the pass) and DMo draws a second defender again to hit Stu for the open 3 pt. look to clinch the game.

Yes, DMo also made the turnover in Play 3 that led to Green's score and 1.  But that only leads me to my next point (made ad naseum by many against the trolls and ignorant critics of the bball team): YOUTH.  DMo is a sophomore starting full-time for the first time.  He will make mistakes, but he does--at least on this night in front of an Izzone and meatheads wearing numbers crying insecurity--make more positive plays than negative ones.  He will--if he hasn't already--have struggles with ego/maturity and a learning curve. 

What about the five freshman who rotate in regularly with 3 of them starting?


2) Coach Beilein has a young but talented team.  As a group, the team will play down to competition (hopefully not Iowa today, but I wouldn't be surprised).  But we've seen it play up to competition all season long too. The latter is not a given with just any team full of two juniors and the rest underclassmen.  Coach B should get praise for this part, for which he seemingly does not.   With maturity (and patience from us), Coach Beilein will show the fruits of his progress.  And please remember this tidbit from the detnews today:

In 2009, his second season at U-M, Beilein guided the Wolverines to a 21-14 record and back into the NCAA Tournament for the first time in 11 seasons, with a first-round win over Clemson. Michigan's 11-win turnaround tied a school record for the largest single-season turnaround.

Though RR didn't have the same types of positive marks during his time at Michigan, let's be careful about becoming a program that fires off coaches b/c they don't deliver satisfaction in the timeframe we arbitrarily deem sufficient to accomplish delivering said satisfaction.  Each situation is different and hence requires its own analysis.  At the very least, give some analysis--a credible one hopefully--when you shout/cry for Coach B or any other Michigan coach to be fired. 
Go Blue!  Beat Iowa!



Today's MBB Recruit Visits

Today's MBB Recruit Visits

Submitted by MGoShoe on August 3rd, 2010 at 10:44 PM

2012 basketball recruits Denzel Valentine (offered), Nick Stauskas (not yet offered), and Matt Costello (offered) visited Ann Arbor and got to watch today's basketball practice. scored interviews with Valentine and Stauskas.  Regarding Costello:

Matt Costello was also in Ann Arbor today and we will try to get an update with him as soon as possible. 

Whether or not either of these young men ever make it to Michigan, the experience they had seemed very positive and the comments they had provide an interesting look into how Coach Beilein and his staff are operating.


What did you think of the plans for the new practice facility? It was very impressive.  I thought it looked nice, very up-to-date.  It’s going to be a great-looking building when it’s done.  If I went there, it’ll be done by the time I get there.

What did you think [about practice]? I liked it.  They started off with skills and stretching and it was just a real organized practice.  Most coaches just do the generic warmup, do drills, then you play, but it was real organized and set up.  I like how coach Beilein ran it.


What did you think of the campus? It was crazy.  Their facilities there were really nice and they told me that by the time I came their whole basketball facilities would be redone and they’re planning to renovate the arena.

What did you think of practice? In the practice, Beilein seemed really relaxed, and I guess that would be kind of good not to have a hothead for a coach.  For most of the practice they spent a lot of time on fundamentals, like passing, dribbling, shooting and that kind of stuff.  Then they got up and down for a little five-on-five and what I noticed was that they like to shoot 3′s a lot.  About 80 percent of their shots were from 3.

Check out the full content at


Denzel Valentine

Nick Stauskas - Beilein's Recruiting Strategy: Account for Attrition - Beilein's Recruiting Strategy: Account for Attrition

Submitted by MGoShoe on May 15th, 2010 at 7:07 AM

At, Dylan discusses Coach Beilein's signing strategy and provides an early take on the 2010-11 starting five.

Michigan has now signed four players for the class of 2010: Evan Smotrycz, Tim Hardaway Jr., Jon Horford, and Colton Christian. Jordan Morgan and Blake McLimans [will] be freshmen this year after redshirting which brings the count  of new players to six. 

...On paper there is now only 1 scholarship remaining in the class of 2011 which means that Michigan could technically bring in only one more player alongside Carlton Brundidge. At this point I expect Michigan to continue recruiting with the intention that they will add two more to the class of 2011. 

...In a perfect world you would use roughly 3 of your 13 scholarships every year. The fact that this plan overlooks, [a fact] Beilein knows very well, is that there will be attrition in a recruiting class.

Dylan's early 2010-11 starting lineup prediction:

We constantly harped on the lack of size on last year’s roster and questioned whether Beilein would adjust his style of play to compensate. I don’t think Beilein ever planned on playing small ball but his hand was forced. His West Virginia teams were full of 6-foot-5 to 6-foot-8 swing men who could play inside and out. With the average height of Michigan’s six added players coming out at 6-foot-8, it’s clear that next year’s team will at least be longer and taller.

  • One: Darius Morris
  • Two: Stu Douglass
  • Three: Zack Novak
  • Four: Evan Smotrycz
  • Five: Blake McLimans

I think you would see some versatility though. Evan Smotrycz and Zack Novak both have the ability to slide up or down a position. This should give Michigan the flexibility to play small, maybe with Novak and Smotrycz at the four and five, or play big, with Novak, Smotrycz, and Christian at the two, three, and four respectively.

Playing big seems like such a novel concept for Michigan after the experience of the last several seasons.  Not surprisingly, as we enter the  Beilein era's fourth season, Michigan men's basketball roster is now prototypically Beilein in its makeup.