Burke Leaps Up Latest CBS Sports NBA Mock Draft

Burke Leaps Up Latest CBS Sports NBA Mock Draft

Submitted by MGoShoe on February 6th, 2013 at 1:28 PM

Jeff Goodman's latest CBS Sports NBA mock draft has Trey Burke in the lottery at 9 (up 18 spots from 27), Glenn Robinson, III at 26 (previously NR), and Tim Hardaway, Jr at  39 (up 7 from 46).

Among players previously ranked, Burke made the biggest jump by a wide margin.

Tim Hardaway Jr. - Like Father, Like Son

Tim Hardaway Jr. - Like Father, Like Son

Submitted by Blazefire on March 3rd, 2011 at 11:07 PM

Okay, so, somebody is going to broach it eventually. I may as well be the one.


First of all, man does he look like his dad. Second of all, man, does he have the potential to be BETTER. Yes yes... taller. No, that's not what I mean. I mean better. Don't believe me? Lets look at the- CHART?



Well, we have a table, that's almost a chart.

Season Games Minutes FG% 3P% FT% REB AST TO BLK STL PPG
85-86 28 435 52.1 N/A 65.1 1.3 1.9 1 0.1 0.9 4.1
86-87 31 922 50.2 25 66.3 2 4.8 2 0.2 2.2 9.8
87-88 32 1036 46.8 34 75.4 2.9 5.7 2.3 0.3 2.4 12.4
88-89 33 1182 54.8 36.6 74.1 4 5.4 2.7 0.2 2.8 19.1
10-11 30 897 41.9 37.5 74.7 3.9 1.7 1.3 0.2 1 13.6


Those numbers represent four years of Tim Hardaway Sr. at UTEP and the season to date for Jr. at Michigan. Lets look at some comparison numbers. First off, minutes.

Right now, Tim Jr. is averaging 29.9 minutes per game, trending upward. Figure he ends up at about 30 even or slightly over. This falls in line with his father's Jr year, most closely, where he averaged 32 minutes. As such, I think it's prudent to use that as a baseline for comparing performance in a season.

You can easily see that as Sr.'s minutes and usage rose, Freshman to Jr season, his shooting percentage fell, hitting its lowest point in his Jr. year. This coincided with a rise in his overal points and PPG as he attempted many more shots per game.

Tim Jr. is shooting at an overall lower percentage than his father ever did, but is averaging more than a full PPG higher than his father did during his most similar usage year. This is because Jr. as a freshman, is shooting almost a full percentage point higher than his father ever did on threes, and is attempting many more of them. As of right now, if we see a similar leap in shooting ability aas his career progresses, and he ends up with a similar shooting percentage as a senior (not a given, due to his height, but possible), Jr.  could easily average over 20 PPG.

Dishing it out, Jr. understandably lags compared to his Father's performance in a similar minutes year. This is mostly due to his height (your tall guys aren't usually your ball handlers), and the fact that D-Mo is the floor captain. However, he is very, very close to his Father's freshman numbers, and even though his minutes are starter minutes, we should see his Assist ratio increase as he gains expeience. Relatedly, in TO ratio, Hardaway has his similar minutes father beaten by one per game, but again, as he dishes it more, he'll turn it over more.

Rebounding, I think, is no contest, Jr is going to have his father beat. As a Freshman, he's basically hit his father's Sr. mark in less minutes, and has eclipsed his father's similar minutes Jr. mark by 1 per game. Also on the defensive game, steals are a push right now.  He's well below his Father's similar minutes numbers, but has the freshman numbers beat, and should see them increase as he develops. His father might have the slight edge when all is said and done.

So, lets add it up with a- Table? Table.

Player Overall Shoting 3 Point Rebounding Assists Turn-Overs Steals PPG
Sr. +     +   +  
Jr.   + +   +   +

Now, I'm not claiming that Jr. is a better player than his father yet. But I see four plusses for Jr and only three for Sr. Ask Freshman Sr. to play Freshman Jr.'s minutes, and I think the percentages go way down. Give Jr. four years of experience, some bigs to distribute it to inside, and a little more help, and look out.

Now all we need is for Jr. to develop one of these:


MBB News and Notes from UMHoops.com

MBB News and Notes from UMHoops.com

Submitted by MGoShoe on August 15th, 2010 at 9:17 PM

Coach Beilein conducted a Q&A today after practice.  Video available at UMHoops.com.

  • Lots of emphasis on fast break in practice today.  Given the 25 second clock they'll face in Europe, this is especially important.
  • Stu "very solid" over the past eight days.  Not up and down, consistently good.
  • Colton Christian re-injured his hamstring and is questionable to play during the EuroTour (but will go).  Everyone else is healthy.
  • Looking to get more folks attacking the basket.  Manny's gone - need more to take on this responsibility.
  • Will only play man during the EuroTour.  Haven't had time to put in any other defenses.
  • Really pleased with the team's progress along the learning curve after a week of practice, likes team's attitude.

Extensive observations on today's practice are now available at UMHoops.com. 

Go there for the whole scoop, but here's the teaser:

The teams looked to be divided into two groups: In maize, those who looked to be in the regular rotation. In blue, those who aren’t there yet. The maize side consisted of: Tim Hardaway Jr., Blake McLimans, Jordan Morgan, Darius Morris, Zack Novak, Stu Douglass, Evan Smotrycz, and Matt Vogrich.  The non-rotation guys: Jon Horford, Corey Person, Eso Akunne, Jordan Dumars, Josh Bartelstein.

Positive reviews: Darius Morris, Stu Douglass, Tim Hardaway, Jr., team chemistry

Then there's this:

One last side note: Laval Lucas-Perry, who was dismissed from the team in June, will transfer to Oakland. He’ll have one year of eligibility remaining after sitting out for a year.

Finally, UMHoops.com is reporting that the Big Dog's son, Glenn Robinson, III (2012 recruit) now has a Michigan offer.  His current offer list is Missouri State, IUPUI, Indiana State and Valparaiso, but it's early.  If he does end up at Michigan, the team will include the sons of four NBA players in Robinson, Hardaway, Jordan Dumars and Jon Horford.

When people hear your name they’re going to automatically think of your dad, but can you describe your own game? Is it different? Yeah, he was a little bit bigger, more of a forward and I’m more of a 2 or a 3. I play more on the outside but I still have his shot. I think a lot of people say that I have the same form and everything as him, the midrange game is the same, and I got his outside shot, too. We’re a little bit different because he was a forward but other than that — I can probably dribble better than he could — we’re kind of the same player a little bit.