Mgoblog: Your Modest Proposals

Mgoblog: Your Modest Proposals

Submitted by MGlobules on December 16th, 2017 at 2:51 PM

I'm willing to bow to board opinion if no one agrees, but I feel that mgoblog is not in real healthy shape right now. There was some serious excitement and brainpower at work here in the early going which I wouldn't assume can be recaptured--Brian's early diaries were magic, and with a small pool of exited member-posters the quality of thinking, and humor, was often really great. 

Some of the decline, I think, must be pinned on the founders and site managers. There is still plenty of good reporting here (Ace has improved markedly with the bball, Brian still brings a wealth of insight and occasional genius word play). The place is stale looking, to my eye, but a redesign is--reportedly--coming and will no doubt breathe life.

But now that we are into the post-season and can mull it, I'd like to offer a forum for constructive comments--not just complaints, but maybe only going to the look of the blog if that involves how discourse can flow better, too. 

My two suggestions: So many threads get hijacked by a silly side-conversation at the very outset/top that--repeatedly--you have to scroll miles down the page to get to commentary on the actual subject. (You know--one guy says funny, the next guy says ha ha, the next guy says good one or upvote and 30 seconds later you are still scrolling down for anything of value.) I think the mods need to go in and clean some of these up. Or--let me put it another way--lately I have been weary enough of it personally that I have started to bail when there's too much of it. Dylan has gotten very good at just stepping in when this happens at umhoops and asking people to get back on track; I think there has to be more attentiveness to the threads by mods in this regard. 

Second: I'm much more tolerant of off-topic threads, crazy opinions, and even interesting mildly sociological takes than most (not party political ones, but ones that point out the unfairness or fairness of how things work at a deeper level, that show insight about how things work). I welcome Brian's commentary, for example on getting players paid even when I don't agree with some of the underlying principles. 

But too many threads consist of just one or two poorly thought-out lines, replete with misspellings and--too often--are not even linked to factual supporting evidence. (I'm looking at you 'Penn Statte Fraternity Hazing Death," still up a day after it went up, and a one-liner lauding bowl season that didn't even bother to note what games were ON.)

Closer examination suggests that most are NOT from brand-new posters but people working into the thousands of points. So demanding that people get to X number of points before they post may not fix much. The answer, in my view: gotta have just a little more moderation.

Crap thread sitting on the sidebar for hours just isn't a healthy feel or look. 

How about other posters? Let's put together some serious proposals here; who knows, maybe a few will get adopted. Posted in a spirit of love and respect for this place.

 

META: MGoBlog Moderation Survey: Let your voice be heard (maybe)(UPDATED)

META: MGoBlog Moderation Survey: Let your voice be heard (maybe)(UPDATED)

Submitted by Noleverine on July 6th, 2011 at 12:51 AM

 

So, we have had this new moderation system for a while.  Brian asked us to give it a chance, and I believe we have been using it long enough that each of us have given it a fair shake.  

A lot of people (myself included) don't like the new system, so here is the chance for everyone's voices to be heard.  Like it, love it, or hate it, I created a survey where you can share your opinions.

I don't know if Brian will pay any attention to this, but I thought it might make people feel better to vent their hatred/love for the new system.  In a day or two I will update the thread with responses people have given.  If anyone can think of any other questions I should add, leave them in the comments.

Brian, if you would like the login information so you can view specific answers, please let me know, I'd be glad to share.  Also I can add any further questions you may be interested to ask.

 

Survey Here

 

EDIT: If mods want to bump this to prevent it from getting buried once people actually wake up, in order to have a higher response rate, I won't argue.

UPDATE: So turns out Tater was kinda right.  Nothing is ever free.  After getting 100 responses (surprised that many people were up late last night) it is asking me to sign up for a paid account to see over the first 100 responses.  Therefore, my counts will only include those responses (sorry if you were after that).

Question 1: Do you like the new moderate system?

YES: 16%

NO: 84%

 

Question 2: What don't you like about the new system?

Too high/low threshold (higher than +5/lower than -1): 30.3% (ed: this was added after a few people already responded so not actually representative)

Too many choices: 20.2%

Not enough choices: 16.2%

Choices not representative of how I view comments: 54.5%

Choices too vague: 23.2%

Requires too much thought: 20.2%

NO NEGBOMB!!!!: 67.7%

Too complicated: 26.3%

Other: 15.2% (includes write-ins: doesn't moderate anything; less incentive to post well; doesn't effect mgopoints; overengineered slashdot nonsense system; no need for labels like "normal," flamebait", etc.; viewing threshold complaints)

Question 3: What would be the best system of moderation?

Current system: 4%

Old system (+/-): 56%

Combination featuring a simple +/- with a "flamebait, trolling, funny" if seen fit: 29%

New system with general +/- if your reasoning doesn't fit into predefined categories: 2%

Get rid of them all together: 4%

Other: 5% (includes write-ins: no user moderation at all; fewer down voting options; added option of wishing terrible misfortune on the poster; adding more adjectives)

 

 

Comment Thread Redesign

Comment Thread Redesign

Submitted by JeremyB on August 13th, 2010 at 1:34 AM

I tooled around with a redesign for the new comment threads after watching the new boards fluctuate like crazy. See below:

  • Changed the header section to prioritize the title, author, and notification of newness
  • Metadata like points, post date, and join date are still featured in the top but offset in size and color
  • The text is easier to read as the lines are a little tighter with more space between paragraphs.
  • Threading is easier to follow as the comment box has a background and border.
  • Despite adding more info than the current design, it takes up less space on the screen.

Thoughts?

 

Redesign