Former Louisville players suing to get 2013 banner back

Former Louisville players suing to get 2013 banner back

Submitted by trueblueintexas on July 11th, 2018 at 2:12 PM

Apparently former Louisville player Luke Hancock can't go anywhere without being reminded about his team's cheating ways and he can't stand it. 

Hancock and a handful of other former players are suing the NCAA to try and get the wins, banner, and yes, Luke's MVP reinstated. 

Maybe, in truth, he's mad they didn't give him any of the hookers and blow.

https://apnews.com/aa4861b483e6492da58f6318a6ae05c8

Nothing ceases to amaze me anymore.

Oregon "sanctions" announced

Oregon "sanctions" announced

Submitted by MikeCohodes on June 26th, 2013 at 10:41 AM

So the NCAA announced Oregon's slap on the wrist with a feather for their recruiting infractions. Most of the penalties will make next to no impact on Oregon football.  What do you guys think, does the punishment fit the crime?

The penalties include:

  • Public reprimand and censure.
  • Three years of probation from June 26, 2013 through June 25, 2016.
  • An 18-month show cause order for the former head coach. The public report contains further details.
  • A one-year show-cause order for the former assistant director of operations. The public report contains further details.
  • A reduction of initial football scholarships by one from the maximum allowed (25) during the 2012-13 and 2013-14 academic years (imposed by the university).
  • A reduction of total football scholarships by one from the maximum allowed (85) during the 2013-14, 2014-15 and 2015-16 academic years (imposed by the university).
  • A reduction of official paid football visits to from 56 to 37 for the 2012-13, 2013-14 and 2014-15 academic years.
  • A reduction of permissible football evaluation days from 42 to 36 in the fall of 2013, 2014 and 2015 and permissible football evaluation days from 168 to 144 in the spring of 2014, 2015 and 2016.
  • A ban on the subscription to recruiting services during the probation period.
  • A disassociation of the recruiting service provider. Details of the disassociation are included in the public report (imposed by the university).

EDIT: Sorry, forgot to link to source - NCAA official announcement link here

Why Recruiting Violations Aren't Caught

Why Recruiting Violations Aren't Caught

Submitted by Zone Left on February 7th, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Apologies to AC1997, but my reply turned into a diary. There is a lot of snark here, it's not aimed at you, it's just because I'm snarky.

Brian's mentioned Bill Simmon's article about PEDs and its natural extension into college recruiting. Whenever a school, Ole Miss in this case, gets a recruiting windfall, illicit or otherwise, or has a sustained run of success at the top, like USC, lots of folks question whether or not the success is legitimate. Then, they openly speculate, often using terms like "U$C" or "Ole Mi$$," (AC1997 did not do this) why no one sheds light on the violations. Here's my take as to why really big recruiting violations rarely come to light.

First, let's set the scenario. Phil Philbert is a five star dual-threat QB from Springfield. Instead of staying home to play for Local U (LU), he instead goes to Football University (FU), which is on the other side of the country. LU fans cry foul and demand justice, but no one sheds light on why Phil was seen leaving town in a new Maserati.

In this scenario, I think there are three ways Phil and FU get caught:

  1. NCAA investigation.
  2. Concerned insider tells all.
  3. Investigative journalism.

First, we all know the NCAA isn't out to discover recruiting violations. If the NCAA is a part of a police force, its job is that of a detective. In other words, they here about something bad and investigate to determine what happened and who is responsible. This detective would be taking many of its calls from cops on the beat. The only problem is, there aren't any paid cops on the beat. If the NCAA and its members wanted that, there would be paid staff at FBS schools "patrolling." No one involved really wants that. Therefore, the NCAA is waiting by the phone for options 2 and 3 to call before starting an investigation.

The most obvious person to call the NCAA would be the concerned insider. They would have first-hand knowledge of the situation and could steer the NCAA toward FU's egregious violations. The problem is, who are these insiders with direct knowledge? The parties with direct knowledge are:

  1. Phil.
  2. Phil's parents.
  3. Phil's high school coach.
  4. FU's coach.
  5. The deep pocketed booster who bought the Maserati.
  6. The bagman.

None of these people has any incentive to talk. Phil and his family got a free car (or cash) and don't want to go to jail for not paying taxes on the gift. Phil's coach can't tattle or he gets fired and his high school becomes persona non grata in recruiting circles. FU's coach doesn't want a show cause penalty or to lose his buyout. The booster and the bagman love FU too much to tell. Anyone else who talks has circumstantial evidence unless Phil (or the bagman) is dumb enough to talk about their nefarious deed into a microphone.

That basically leaves investigative journalism. However, there are serious problems with developing these types of stories. Even disregarding the lack of actual journalists who have the skill and tenacity to run down these types of stories, they still have to get someone to talk. That's really hard. Additionally, which news outlet would run the story? The most obvious one is LU's home paper. However, LU's home paper probably isn't doing very well right now and is likely devoting their investigative stories (if there are any) to things like crime, serious corruption, or serious societal issues. FU's home paper is definitely out. Papers struggle for readers as it is, they don't need to anger their subscriber base by getting FU in a bunch of trouble.

That basically leaves Charles Robinson at Yahoo! and a few other journalists at big-time news organizations who have the time and organizational backing to do this type of work. I heard an interview with Robinson a year or two ago. In it, he basically said he has a bunch of Nevin Shapiro / Miami stories in the works at any time, but journalistic standards of prohibit him from publishing until he can get credible on-the-record conversations and / or a lot of verifiable evidence. Again, that's really hard to come by given the few people with insider knowledge and their lack of incentive to talk.

This is one guy's opinion as to why serious recruiting violations don't come to light very often. They're hard to find and hard to verify. Furthermore, I don't believe much really serious stuff actually happens anymore. It's too easy for someone to Tweet a picture of himself holding a stack of cash and add "loving FU right now, LOL." Cheating today is an incredibly short-sighted tactic that can't go on long. It would be impossible for wholesale, SMU-style cheating, to be kept quiet, just like it was then.

OT: Auburn program under investigation by NCAA

OT: Auburn program under investigation by NCAA

Submitted by Brown Bear on November 21st, 2012 at 3:36 PM
Shocking news of the day. Auburn program being investigated for potential improprieties involving Auburn recruits, players, coaches, representatives of the school's athletic interests and third parties. The real question is will the NCAA actually do anything? Link http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--sources--ncaa-investigating-auburn-…

Terrelle Pryor on Improper Benefits - "I felt like I was doing God's work."

Terrelle Pryor on Improper Benefits - "I felt like I was doing God's work."

Submitted by Michael Scarn on May 9th, 2012 at 12:30 PM

Well, um, I'm not sure what to say other than to quote and link this article.  Terrelle Pryor details the story of selling his Gold Pants for $3,000, money he says he used to pay his Mom's rent and heat bills.  

Whenever I write my book the proof will be in there, the receipt that the money I gave my mother was to pay the electric and heat bill. The truth is going to come out one day when the time is right. I don't think I deserved (being punished) in that way, because of the reason I was doing it. I felt like I was doing God's work in a way, and I was getting driven into the ground.

Strangely, he mentions nothing about tattoos, loaner cars, etc.  Some people are just crazy enough to believe their own nonsense.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/jim_trotter/05/09/terrelle.pryor/