I received a signed Michigan flag

I received a signed Michigan flag

Submitted by UofM Die Hard … on April 19th, 2017 at 4:57 PM

So I received a signed Michigan flag (mini flag) as a gift.  I got it from someone who works at Addidas, it ended up in his office, he knows Im a freak about Michigan so he sent it my way...which I was pumped about.

Good news is that its signed by Red and JB, bad news (I guess) that its also signed by Hoke. Which as we all know was a rough era (minus 1 year). 

I love repping Michigan gear in the office so my question to the board, if you owned this mini flag would you proudly display it in your office/cube even though that Hoke signature is on there...or do you just put it in your man cave at home?

FYI, I put the flag up and two people commented on the Hoke signature within 5 days... in a bad way...lol. 



favorite moments of the Hoke Era

favorite moments of the Hoke Era

Submitted by Toby Flenderson on December 3rd, 2014 at 12:31 AM

The Brady Hoke Era has come to an end at the University of Michigan. It is a shame that a man with such great character like Brady Hoke couldn't succeed here. However, I always like to remember the good times.

My question to my fellow mgobloggers

What were your favorite memories of the Hoke Era?

Mine is a tie between the 2011 Ohio State Game and the 2012 Northwestern game.

MGoBlog's First Impression of Brady Hoke

MGoBlog's First Impression of Brady Hoke

Submitted by evenyoubrutus on September 29th, 2014 at 12:33 PM

This seems relevant now.  The first time Brady Hoke appeared on MGoBlog's main page was back in December of 2007, during the first coaching search to replace Lloyd Carr.  It would seem that first impressions are usually correct.

Here's the best part:

Even in the realm of people who Michigan would approach after getting turned down by everyone -- EVERYONE -- there are vastly preferable candidates: Ron English. Mike Trgovic. Glen Mason. Jon Chait. Me. The Golden Retriever from "Air Bud: Golden Receiver." Mussolini, who is dead. Dick Vitale. Sigourney Weaver. Richard Nixon's penis. Sigourney Weaver's penis. All of these people and organs don't have a track record that suggests they are a below average MAC coach. It is in this way they are superior to Brady Hoke.

This is also prophetic:

Overall Attractiveness: Awful. Awful, awful, awful. The worst possible candidate. The mere idea this guy -- who's never even been a coordinator anywhere and has his MAC team performing at a level well below the program's historical baseline -- could get the job is infuriating. Only at Michigan could this happen, and if it does I guarantee you that Bo is going to haunt the mofo that signs the contract.

How many wins in the next two seasons does Hoke need to keep his job?

How many wins in the next two seasons does Hoke need to keep his job?

Submitted by gobluehtown on December 11th, 2013 at 1:01 AM

There seems to be a contrast of expectations that are somewhat contradictory, the aims of short-run success versus long-run program reputation

When it comes to a power program like Michigan, what evidence should be used to judge the job performance of coaches? There are the usual types of milestones and accomplishments thrown out (division titles, conference titles, BCS games). But I submit that by examining the make-up and changes in winning percentage is the main indicator in the way in which a coach should be judged. The ancillary rewards such as conference championships are rewards for wins and with a high enough winning percentages, those correlated accolades will accrue as the winning percentage increases.

 The longer the sample, the less the impact of any one record from any given year would change the program success. On the other hand though, a large change from the program’s winning percentage prior the arrival of that coach to the five-years after his arrival would signal a “great coach” who could “bend the curve of a program’s trajectory”. I took the last six coaches for Michigan and looked at what the evidence shows in terms of success or failure.

If the last three years of the previous coach were poor records wise, then it is likely, the standard set of criteria for success would be, “Has this coach exceeded the results of the last coach?” For most programs, an affirmative answer to this question would result in the coach gaining the confidence of the fan/alumni base. But with Michigan (and other power programs), the next set of criteria would be, “Has the coach matched or exceeded the winning percentage of the program overall?”

When it comes to Brady Hoke, he has clearly met the first set of standards. Rich Rodriguez started from a nearly .700 winning percentage from Lloyd Carr’s tenure. He took this base and promptly shit the bed. By the empirical evidence of winning percentage, Rich Rodriguez is likely the worst coach in modern Michigan football history. The program was in better shape when Bo took over from Bump, so Hoke did not have a high bar to clear to clear the short-run collective memories of Rodriguez. In fact, Hoke’s increase in winning percentage of nearly 28 percentage points is second only to Bo, so he’s clearly a positive over Rodriguez.

The next, more macro set of standards is where the ennui with Hoke begins to set in. Examining the winning percentages on a season by season basis helps to simplify the overall trends and trajectory of a program with attempt to eliminate some of the randomness which can occur on a game to game and even season to season set of events which may limit the overall explanatory capability of the statistic. The power program and winning percentage are a gift and a curse. The gift is that the history helps with the overall great program sell and helps to perpetuate that this school has always been good therefore it will continue to be good mindset. The curse is that if the coach does not meet the historical standards set, he is considered a failure.

This presents a problem because a standard set over two different types of measurements is sure to create disappointment. In the case of Hoke, he has already met the short-run standards, which is a good thing. In his mind he can point to the crater which Rodriguez left and he has begun to fill it in and erect a new statue of success. But since this is a power program, Hoke’s success is relative. Hoke is currently less than the overall winning percentage of the program, .682 (depending on the results of the Copper Bowl) vs. about .735 (using stats from 1892 forward), this is better than the gap between the first few seasons of Bump and RichRod, but it falls short of Carr, Moeller and Bo. In fact, Hoke’s track record indicates that he is somewhat of a slow starter when it comes to his early coaching record versus the overall program’s record.

In contrast, Nick Saban, Urban Meyer and Les Miles have met or exceeded the program long-run average at nearly every stop they have been at (Saban at MSU has a similar profile to Hoke at M vis-à-vis program avg.)  


The mark of a good coach is that they made their teams better. The mark of a great coach is that they made their programs better. Both Saban (LSU and Bama) and Meyer (FLA and Ohio) took decent to good programs and made them better. Miles also built upon a strong LSU program and did not regress even with the pace that Saban had set before him. 

The other remarkable evidence in recent times are made up of four coaches at three power programs and one decent/good program. Pete Carroll, Jim Harbaugh, Bob Stoops and Mark Richt all set examples of blistering beginnings that M should push to emulate in the next two years. 

Carroll and Stoops in particular took power programs and strengthened their long-run advantages. 

Hoke’s numbers so far look more like Mack Brown and John Cooper, numbers which are underwhelming to say the least. Mack’s CEO style relies on maintaining the advantage of the program to pull in the best recruits. From Tulane to North Carolina and finally to Texas, Brown’s numbers are not earth-shattering, but they do offer a model for program consistency, if not extreme short-run success.


So, that leaves the questions which is the title to this diary, how many wins does Hoke need to keep his job (using the power program winning percentage as a central metric). Assuming that Hoke does win the Copper Bowl, to maintain the program's long-run success factor, Hoke must win 20 games in the next two seasons. This may sound unreachable sitting here today, but it could be 9 in 2014 and 11 in 2015, the distribution of the wins in a particular year does not matter, but Hoke needs those 20 wins to run his type of program.

This record assumes 10 wins evenly in both years. The power program strategy that Hoke is utilizing relies on the belief that that M is indeed a power thus attracting the recruits who want to be at said power. If that belief is lost, there could be a feedback loop whereas the loss of prestige eats away at the base which believes in that prestige and the entire program continues on this plateau of blah.

Has Hoke Changed Everything?

Has Hoke Changed Everything?

Submitted by cp4three2 on March 5th, 2012 at 5:26 PM

I don't mean for this post to take away from what a great job coach Beilein has done in rebuilding our program. He's taken us to a place in basketball that I can barely remember as a kid, but I've been thinking about this for awhile and I understand that they are only tangently connected, but it seems like Hoke changed everything.


Football is the heart and soul of our athletic program. When Hoke was hired, Michigan basketball was on a brutal game losing streak and was 1-5 in Big Ten play. When Hoke declared "This is Michigan, for God's sake" he seemed to give everyone, not just the football team, a boost of swagger. We went on to get to 9-9 and won a game in the tournament.


This year I've noticed that football and basketball seemed to be connected. Mitch McGary is spotted going nuts during the Western Michigan football game. Tim Hardaway is seen rushing the field after OSU. Denard and company are regulars in the Maize Rage. Beilein calls OSU "Ohio." I even think I remember an interview where one of the basketball guys kept saying "This is Michigan."     


Does anyone else have that feeling?

Super Saturday (2-18-2012) Recap

Super Saturday (2-18-2012) Recap

Submitted by team126 on February 19th, 2012 at 8:03 AM

FB: We got 6 commits!

  • Kyle Bosch (OL)


  • Wyatt Shallman (RB/TE)


  • Jourdan Lewis (CB)


  • David Dawson (OL)


  • Chris Fox (OL)


  • Taco Charlton (DE)


BB: We beat ohio!


Ice hockey: We swept Northern Michigan!


Softball: We shutout Kentucky and Florida Atlantic!


Baseball: We defeated Seton Hall!



Last but not least, our girls are always beautiful!




What are our expectations of Hoke 3 or 4 years down the road?

What are our expectations of Hoke 3 or 4 years down the road?

Submitted by mejunglechop on August 30th, 2011 at 4:41 AM


At the beginning of the Rodriguez era Brian envisioned symmetry in the renovation of the Big House and the rebuilding of the Michigan football program with the anticipated arrival date of 2010. He was convinced Rodriguez would get at least 4 years to see through his vision since it was a fairly radical departure from Michigan’s traditional offensive identity. While Rodriguez was able to recreate Michigan’s offensive identity in the original timeframe because of defensive failings Rodriguez only lasted three years.

So, now it’s 2011 and Hoke is the new Man and it strikes me as a good time to mark down expectations. Where do we have to be in 2013 and 2014 for you to be satisfied with the trajectory of the program?

Personally by the end of 2013 I think it's fair to expect at least one ten win season and a long term outlook at least on par with any big ten team. Thoughts?

RR talks big ten teams this season and CF generally

RR talks big ten teams this season and CF generally

Submitted by michfan4borw on August 16th, 2011 at 10:01 AM

This is not a thread intended to debate the merits of Rich Rodriguez as a coach at Michigan whatsoever.  RR's tone in the interview suggests to me that he's gotten over having been removed as Michigan's coach, so hopefully we all have too. 


This interview is interesting, because he talks about his predictions within the big ten based on his coaching experience.  FWIW, he has high expectations for Michigan, but I also think picking Michigan to have any other type of season (poor or average) would not come off well at all.



I tried to embed.  I hope it worked. [EDIT: please help by embedding the video; a reminder on how to do it would be nice also but not expected.  thanks.]

Tunnel Question

Tunnel Question

Submitted by Six Zero on July 8th, 2011 at 10:13 AM

Quick Question, and forgive me for not elaborating on why I'd like to know....

But does anyone know if the Tunnel in Michigan Stadium still features, or will still feature, the phrase "HARD EDGE" on beam before the one that sports the traditional  "GO BLUE??" 

From my recollection this was a mantra from Rich himself, and I'm wondering if it's already gone or has been replaced by something else???

Can anyone speculate?  Spring game, or perhaps a recent visit?


Six Zero