Shocking: Agree with Rosenberg (against Big 10 Expansion)

Shocking: Agree with Rosenberg (against Big 10 Expansion)

Submitted by StephenRKass on September 22nd, 2011 at 10:16 AM

I don't know if this is a first, but I actually agree with a full article written by Michael Rosenberg. Today's Freep has a piece by him against Big 10 expansion. (Link:  http://www.freep.com/article/20110922/COL22/109220460/Michael-Rosenberg-Big-Ten-better-off-only-12-teams.)

I too am basically against expansion. Every team we add is one more team to split the revenue pie stream with. I particularly don't care for expansion outside of the Big 10 footprint. Unless a school is in our geographic footprint, student demographic, and fits with our culture, I can't see adding more teams and ending up with a "super-conference."

The one clear exception is Notre Dame, but that horse has been beat to death. I'm trying to think of other major schools in our area who have a decent history, size, academics, etc., and not many come to mind. I suppose Iowa State might qualify in addition to ND.

What I wouldn't want to see happen is to add a directional state university MAC Snack, or a city commuter school (Pittsburgh, Cincinnati) and I'd want a team that has a strong football team. We went through this before (in adding Nebraska.) Honestly, Nebraska and Penn State are a bit far physically, but they do fit the Big 10 profile well.

However, to flirt with schools yet further away than Penn State and Nebraska makes absolutely no sense to me. The Pac 10, SEC, ACC, Big East, and others can do what they want. I think the Big 10 is a great conference as it is now constituted. Short of adding ND, and possibly Iowa State, it is lunacy to consider further expansion.

Expansion Speculation

Expansion Speculation

Submitted by ForestCityBlue on September 20th, 2011 at 11:06 AM

The Big 12 and the Big East look to be firmly on the path to destruction.  What will things look like when the dust settles?  What will it mean for the Big 10?  The recent moves of Syracuse and Pitt to the ACC throws a monkey wrench into everyone's thinking, in so much as it was always thought that football and the TV revenues from football would be the driver.  The ACC expansion shows that basketball is on the table as well.  Again, where will things settle out when it is all said and done? 

One of the factors that is important to the Big 10 is academic standing, and a part of that is membership in the AAU (Association of American Universities).  Although important, it is not the only criteria as the addition of Nebraska shows.   Apparently the Big 10 is working with Nebraska to facilitate entrance into the AAU.  As the Big East and the Big 12 crumble, what AAU schools might be attractive to the Big 10?  Which of them adds value both in terms of academics, but also TV revenue from expanded markets in both football and basketball?

Here are the teams:

Iowa State (Big 12)

Rutgers (Big East)

Kansas (Big 12)

Missouri (Big 12)

If the Big 10 were to add Kanasas and Missouri, could they add Oklahoma as now you would have contiguous geography, even though they are not an AAU member?

Can Big 10 Expand?

Can Big 10 Expand?

Submitted by Hoke_Floats on August 15th, 2011 at 12:25 PM

Slow day for me so I started to think about adding teams to the Big 10

I was going to create a post with a dream 4 universities for the big 10 to add to expand a al the SEC

I narrowed my list to member of the AAU members & Notre Dame

My Best 4 was

  1. Notre Dame
  2. University of North Carolina
  3. Duke
  4. Kansas

This would make the Big 10 an amazing B-Ball conference, but it really doesn't add that much for football besides ND. 

Also, I doubt that any of the 4 would even want to join our league.  I grouped UNC and Duke together, but they have such a history with the rest of the ACC it would be hard to pry them loose.

Non-AAU members could try a Kentucky and Tenn. grab, but I don't think they would leave the SEC

I know mizzou wants in real bad, but who could we pair them with and do they add that much to the big 10? 

rutgers?  I am not sold on them

Pitt?  too regional

What about Texas A&M?  Wouldn't that be something.  They are an AAU member and they are not happy with their current situation.  You could probably even convince Kansas to come with them.

 

Q&A with AD Brandon

Q&A with AD Brandon

Submitted by Tully Mars on September 12th, 2010 at 1:46 AM

 

**Note: Sorry if some of this is redundant with any other posts/diaries.  I'm short on time**

I was able to attend the Alumni Association Tailgate before the Michigan-ND game today (great game)!  AD Brandon did a Q&A session at it.  I thought I'd pass on a few of his thoughts/answers.  Nothing to earth shattering, but probably of interest to at least a few folks.  I'm trying to provide the answers as quotes, but this was transcribed on my phone as he was talking, so it's bound to contain some paraphrasing.

From his opening remarks:

"We played Notre Dame in their first football game in 1887 (pause for drama) ... And we kicked their ass. (lots of applause, then somewhat sheepishly)  I'm probably not supposed to use that language huh? (more applause and laughs)

"We (the AD's) redid the 2011 and 2012 seasons as Nebraska joined the conference. .. That was fun..."
 

Someone asked if Mike Martin was the best player on the defense:
"I think Mike Martin is incredible."  Brandon then added some more fluff and never answered the question directly (but not unsurprisingly).
 

Someone then asked about miking the MMB:
"I will probably be chastised for telling this story:  At a Big 10 AD meeting I proposed an amendment to allow bands to be miked and it was emphatically turned down.  I kept pushing it and tried to convince the other AD's that it was about distributing the sound throughout stadiums better and not amplifying the sound on the field.  Using my persuasive powers, we eventually got this amendment passed and now we've got the band miked.  Now to head off any questions about the recorded music, we are planning on there being less recorded music now that the band can be heard better. "
 

Someone then asked whether expansion was over:
"There is a chance of going to more teams.  The conference is still evaluating more expansion.  This doesn't mean that there will be more expansion, but it is definetly still being discussed."  Then AD Brandon followed this up with something along the lines of "Most of the teams that have been rumored have been discussed and in discussions with the big 10."  <--- Note the last phrase here I do not remember 100%, but I had it in my phone notes.  So please take that with a grain of salt.
 

Someone then asked whether OSU would always be the last game of the regular season:

Before he can answer there was lots of yelling from the alumni that the game needs to be last one, this did not happen for any other questions, so it was clearly is something folks care about.  "We've got a mob here huh? (a few chuckles).  Well the initial plan within the Big 10 was to move it to sometime earlier in the season.  Gene Smith, the OSU AD, and I got together to convince the other ADs how important this tradition is and that some traditions should not be adjusted.  Now I learned a long time ago to never say never.  However, if The Game is ever moved from the regular season finale, then I will have failed at my job." [Edit: See JeremyB's comment on this response]
 

Someone asked if the conference name will change:
"The name of Big 10 will not change.  It has a lot of market recognition. The logo may change after some market studies. " (this last response I paraphrased quite a bit).

 

Sorry this isn't really 'original' from the perspective of me creating it, but it seemed kind of long to put in a Board.

Will future Big 10 expansion allow for a do-over?

Will future Big 10 expansion allow for a do-over?

Submitted by FL on August 26th, 2010 at 2:46 PM

The only way I'm getting through this is to hope that if we add 2-4 teams  in a few years, at that time the higher-ups in the Big Ten will have an opportunity to correct the impending neutering of The Game. If they would have to re-do all the schedules anyway, it would seem like a good time to return UM-OSU to the last game before the championship. Thoughts?

Huskers' first Big Ten opponent

Huskers' first Big Ten opponent

Submitted by 909Dewey on June 11th, 2010 at 10:59 PM

Who should Nebraska play in their inaugural Big Ten game?  Iowa makes the most sense to build the rivalry.  Obviously our Wolverines could build off a few bowl games against them.  (Tyler Ecker and I would prefer to build off the 1987 Fiesta Bowl)  I think it should be Penn State - the former new addition welcomes the current new addition.

 

Anyway a big welcome to the Huskers.  Though they will always be the bugeaters to me.

Delany to address media at 4

Delany to address media at 4

Submitted by AAL on June 6th, 2010 at 3:48 PM

I didn't see this posted anywhere. Delany will address the media at 4.

http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/22868/big-ten-brass-meets-a…

@ESPN_BigTen is supposed to update on Twitter (that's Rittenberg).

 

UPDATE: Rittenberg article: http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/news/story?id=5258111

Rittenberg blog: http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/12974/expansion-hot-topic-as-b…

Why did B10 announce looking into expansion?

Why did B10 announce looking into expansion?

Submitted by PeterKlima on May 13th, 2010 at 1:57 PM

I thought someone might be able to answer this question.

Q.  Why did the Big Ten announce that it would be looking into expansion?

What purpose does it serve to publically announce it?  Doesn't it actually hurt the B10's ability to cherry-pick teams because the conferences "see it coming" and can try to work things out?  No one was speculating expansion before the announcement, it wasn't like it needed to be addressed. 

I don't think Delany does things by accident.

The decsion to publicly declare its intentions must serve some purpose.