WTKA Roundtable 11/30/2017: Quarterback Depth is Important, People

WTKA Roundtable 11/30/2017: Quarterback Depth is Important, People

Submitted by Seth on December 1st, 2017 at 6:22 AM

Everybody else on the field has visible, public accountability.

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Things discussed:

  • A one-possession game
  • The quarterback play: Inability to execute on pass plays that were open was the difference. O’Korn took sacks he didn’t need to.
  • Harbaugh schemed guys open.
  • J.T. Barrett completed just two passes in this game; Hudson got one bust on a Cover 2—complaints of man all day are unfounded.
  • They got THE STOP they needed; offense just needed to score on the two chances to win the game the defense game them. But okay, the defense didn’t give them a third chance.
  • Metellus on the drag on K.J. Hill: why is that not LaVert (in fairness he gave up one to K.J. as well)
  • The slot corner stuff on the secondary was bad luck; looking back against expectations they were exceptional. QBs caveat.
  • Next year’s defense looks really good. Put Aubrey in Hurst’s spot, find a linebacker and some depth and let’s goooooo.
  • Speight transfer: kind of a surprise, implies McCaffrey is pretty good, he thinks he’s even with Peters. Idea that Harbaugh had anything to do with it is laughable.
  • Brian thinks it’s justified for Michigan to restrict his transfer to teams we don’t play next year (no Rutgers, Indiana, etc.)
  • Defenses as good as Michigan’s have been drawing a lot more holding calls. Michigan got boned a lot on this game and vs. Wisconsin. Florida was the best officiating we got all year (and they screwed M out of a TD and called Khalid Hill for illegal downfield. Opinion: get professional referees!

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WTKA Roundtable 11/16/2017: Holy Holy Pants Man

WTKA Roundtable 11/16/2017: Holy Holy Pants Man

Submitted by Seth on November 17th, 2017 at 7:24 AM

Never assume malice when you can whatever incompetence etcetera.

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Things discussed:

  • You gotta be multiple: Michigan ran a lot more zone this week. Chris Evans is getting good at it
  • Defensive breakdowns: when you play an aggressive defense one guy not getting his assignment gives up a big play.
  • How good is Wisconsin? They can’t pass, the defense is shutting down bad offenses well, the running game is overpowering bad defenses. The health of the center and the safety matter muchly. Mirror images of each other: who can hit harder?
  • Craig: Jonathan Taylor is better than Saquon Barkley.
  • Wisconsin ain’t played nobody!
  • They have a never-ending pile of linebackers. Better tight ends. Brian hates the hoodie-wearing cornerback because it’s not aerodynamic (and he was grabbing Simmie Cobbs like crazy).
  • Big Ten conspiracy to make the Badgers a playoff team? Don’t encourage Craig. Also do you realize how incompetent the Big Ten refs are, and now you’re going to task these yahoos with believably fixing a game too?

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WTKA Roundtable 11/9/2017: The Capron Conspiracy

WTKA Roundtable 11/9/2017: The Capron Conspiracy

Submitted by Seth on November 10th, 2017 at 7:01 AM

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Things discussed:

  • Craig discovers a ref who’s been screwing Michigan for 114 years.
  • What-ifs: Lew Alcindor, Antonio Bass
  • Minnesota’s secondary was all kinds of out of position—not a good test.
  • Is inside zone dead and buried? No, but this is a power team now because the guard play, and JBB is moving dudes.
  • Once Michigan has a passing game, they’ll be able to really punish guys like Wisconsin’s 2nd corner, who got toasted by Simmie Cobbs.
  • Khaleke Hudson’s big day; Winovich would like to know where his stats went.
  • Is Michigan backing off Ohio? Michigan is recruiting Michigan and treating the rest of the U.S. as the rest of the U.S. No approach is all upside.
  • What happened in Iowa City? Penn State and Michigan State have bad pass defenses that have been sheltered by the Big Ten.

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WTKA Roundtable 11/2/2017: There’s Rain and Then There’s Rainman

WTKA Roundtable 11/2/2017: There’s Rain and Then There’s Rainman

Submitted by Seth on November 3rd, 2017 at 7:49 AM

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[Patrick Barron]

Then he's going to throw a touchdown and it's like ooh he's calm and collected again.

Things discussed:

  • The Petersing! Exciting to see he was hitting his checkdowns, varying speeds. So calm and cool. O’Korn had a particularly bad game to get himself pulled. The margins here are small: don’t get carried away.
  • Good idea to wait until Rutgers?
  • How did O’Korn stay ahead of this guy? There are practice guys: Bolden memorized the offense but didn't learn how to play football. Could be that explains O'Korn's practice performance vs his on-field performance.
  • The Peters Progression: Spring game was just the lunch menu. His sister went through the leadership crucible at Purdue in volleyball. He was so cool, laid back, Yzermanian even.
  • Section 38 has three dancers. Scott Childers wants to get the whole section dancing.
  • The ground game mauled people. Felt so good.
  • Hey remember Rich Rod?
  • Ohio State vs. Penn State: no, Don, we aren’t happy about it. Barrett looked like a Heisman player in that one—definitely not like he looked when they played Oklahoma.
  • Is the run game sustainable? If the passing game can keep the safeties off yes, because they’re blocking well.
  • Minnesota: the weather could screw Michigan by taking away the part of the game where we’re superior.

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WTKA Roundtable 10/26/2017: You Can’t Get What You Want ‘Till You Know What You Want

WTKA Roundtable 10/26/2017: You Can’t Get What You Want ‘Till You Know What You Want

Submitted by Seth on October 27th, 2017 at 8:20 AM

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[Eric Upchurch]

Things discussed:

  • Penn State played a very good game; Michigan played an uncharacteristically bad one.
  • Michigan was expecting the Barkley at QB thing; Gary just got too far upfield.
  • Playing safeties at 15 yards is asking for run-pass-options in your face
  • PSU hit their bombs; why can’t we chuck it to the 6’8” guy?
  • Trace McSorley has been lucky previously; he was flat-out good in this one.
  • Don’t put McCray on Dudes. Guys? Fine. Not dudes.
  • Cornerbacks not tested after Long’s pick; played entire game in slots.
  • Uncharacteristically Michigan lost one-on-one battles on the DL in this one
  • Brian calls Craig Ed. Ed-Craig likens running quarterbacks to guerilla warfare. Ed-Craig listens to punk rock and opera. Joe Jackson narrowly edges out the 5th century BCE’s Caíndelbáin al Óengusa of the Cholmain clan of the southern Ui Niall as the greatest musician in Ed-Craig’s 3,001 years on this planet.
  • Devin Bush had a bad game.
  • Brian is taller than Grant Perry.
  • Can’t live without a passing game—safeties are 8 yards off the line of scrimmage.
  • Peters won’t start but this is the game to get him on the field
  • Jose says the defense has performed poorly in 10 of their 7 games.
  • Personnel issues, not coaching issues.
  • McCaffrey vs. Peters: Brandon has the golden arm, McCaffrey has to grow physically but has an edge as a runner and natural swagger.
  • One-minute hoops takes.

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    WTKA Roundtable 10/19/2017: Détente

    WTKA Roundtable 10/19/2017: Détente

    Submitted by Seth on October 19th, 2017 at 11:13 AM

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    [Marc-Grégor Campredon]

    Things discussed:

    • Craig now sits between Ed and Brian, who get along. Craig is a bystander.
    • Offensive adjustments: more manball. Michigan went to a Harbaugh identity: 22 personnel and equal parts power and inside zone.
    • Higdon made yards, won the game with his OT run, which wasn’t even his best.
    • O’Korn: coaches gave him a freshman gameplan and avoided him as soon as they got a two-score lead. Coaches say he always wants to make the big play and a lot of coaching him is settling him down.
    • The bad man yelled: horrible PI wiped out a Fant interception, then Tom Allen flagrantly violated the “Just for Jim Harbaugh” rule to get 10 calls in a row to go his way (says Craig). Yes, Urban doesn’t get flagged for this either: it’s just Harbaugh.
    • Indiana pass pro success: got their RT back, used an RB to block Bush, which didn’t go well for them but went better than leaving Bush unblocked.
    • Stunt game should be shelved—just opens up running lanes. Too tricky. Mone effect means less pass rush too.
    • Speight earlier this season? Pressure, WRs, stopped seeing things and lost footwork.
    • Sam has a recap of his Brandon Peters take: no he’s not a whiff, he’s not bad, he’s not transferring, he’s not behind, he’s a freshman and the offense asks the quarterback to be very advanced before and after the snap. Sam Darnold was a different story: he came in and threw 2-yard passes to 5-star receivers as a freshman.
    • PSU: McSorley is a B+, Barkley is legit. This isn’t an national championship team but it’s a very good one that’s closer to challenging Ohio State than losing to Michigan.

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    WTKA Roundtable 10/12/2017: Be More Like Fran

    WTKA Roundtable 10/12/2017: Be More Like Fran

    Submitted by Seth on October 12th, 2017 at 11:36 AM

    Getting this out right away because we have an MGoPodcast tonight.

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    [Eric Upchurch]

    Things discussed:

    • Sadness, despair, hate, turnovers. O’Korn took sacks when he didn’t have to, missed open guys in front of his face.
    • Offensive pass interference committed with impunity.
    • Offensive line problems aren’t going away: have to scheme around the bad protection. Craig suggests going to the Vikings RB receiver offense.
    • Time spent on inside zone all offseason was wasted. Stuff that worked was what worked in 2015.
    • What more can you want than DPJ running a fly just down the numbers?
    • The receivers: they’re missing Black, got a guy in Perry, Crawford is out there blocking but not receiving well. DPJ needs to get some of those targets. These guys need to be better coached.
    • Not getting Evans or DPJ the ball in space.
    • Michigan had no quarterback run game in this game: MSU ignored O’Korn on the zone read and he’s a good runner.
    • How much credit to Michigan State? Not bad for an offseason catastrophe, but they won by four when up five on turnovers and up 10 on luck stuff. They’re a 6-6 or 7-5 team, but they’re not a good team.
    • That’s a sad thing: Michigan has to be a lot better since most of the teams they’ll play the rest of the year are better than these Spartans.
    • More O’Korn: saw the things that lost him his job at Houston. He wasn’t running Michigan’s offense in 2015 when he was generating all the hype because he was on the scout team.
    • Indiana: offensive line is terrible, chuck and pray offense, their defense is going to wreck our offense.

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    WTKA Roundtable 10/5/2017: The Joe Tiller Memorial Gameplan

    WTKA Roundtable 10/5/2017: The Joe Tiller Memorial Gameplan

    Submitted by Seth on October 6th, 2017 at 7:33 AM

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    [Bryan Fuller]

    Things discussed:

    • State previewed: OL troubles. They look good in Ed’s pass D stats because opponents have missed all of their wide open deep guys.
    • Brian’s gameplan: Don’t run at all. State couldn’t press versus ND and that changed MSU’s ability to swamp the run game. Pick on their safeties all day.
    • State’s gonna run the jet, and run speed options in high-leverage situations. Positive effect from playing Air Force?
    • Lewerke is a good athlete who looks good 60% of the time and looks crazy the rest.
    • Bad week to be without Tarik Black. Pass pro and take deep shots on these guys. DPJ please.
    • James “Doug” Foug versus their guy should give Michigan the special teams edge despite the lack of Peppers.
    • Ed defends Brian’s totally sane suggestion that Michigan go with the Joe Tiller Tribute offense.
    • Offensive line cohesion is a big deal according to an older caller whose great-grandfather used to hang around Hangersturfer’s and listen to Craig talk about strategy when the forward pass was still just a gimmick.
    • Tight end-focused route combinations: get the ball in Zentry’s hands.
    • State gonna test the O’Neill crew’s willingness to flag OPI: they run a ton of pick routes, and their corners want to play up and grabby. Craig believes we’ll get a neutral game because we’ve been talking about these guys so long.
    • Nunez thoughts: reminds Craig of THJ. Very good spot-up shooter, rare among his generation he can shoot an actual jumper. Castleton is a skinny shot-blocker.

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    WTKA Roundtable 9/29/17: A Good Time for a Bye

    WTKA Roundtable 9/29/17: A Good Time for a Bye

    Submitted by Seth on September 29th, 2017 at 7:55 AM

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    [Patrick Barron]

    Things discussed:

    • Purdue was never going to win that game. Offense had to find its footing; Purdue never faced a defense like that.
    • Yay defense! Furbush and Gary are very good at generating havoc. Long & Hill killing it.
    • Flargeting: why wasn’t the one on Speight seen on replay? Brian gets talked out of his take.
    • O’Korn! Let’s not underestimate the transformation from Indiana to now. Was making confident pre-snap reads and executing them. First reads were there for him more than they’ve been for Speight. Improved pocket presence over the course of the game.
    • Sam: O’Korn was for real as of Rome.
    • Kudos to the Fox director—as long as Tim Brando isn’t on the call. Could see the receiver play really well in this game.
    • A lot of Perry and Schoenle outside. TE rotation settled with McKeon and Gentry on top. DPJ had a lot of routes and release moves to learn to function in this offense.
    • Alarming game for the OL. Not for Onwenu.RBs rough moments in pass blocking. Drevno or youth or both? First level rules still not being executed.
    • ND-MSU things: DL in South Bend isn’t creating havoc—Cole Chewins versus Michigan’s DL is a massive mismatch.
    • Ahead to Penn State: their defense is much better than we thought; Devin Bush is THE guy you want vs Saquon Barkley.
    • Ed’s numbers have UCF on top because numbers don’t know about Maryland’s QB situation.

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    WTKA Roundtable 9/21/2017: Shut Up I’m Talking to Craig

    WTKA Roundtable 9/21/2017: Shut Up I’m Talking to Craig

    Submitted by Seth on September 22nd, 2017 at 8:08 AM

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    [Eric Upchurch]

    Things discussed:

    • Is Purdue for real? They’re ginning up stuff with RPS
    • Michigan is gonna get the kitchen sink. Purdue’s OL is still hard to hide.
    • Purdue does stay run/pass balanced. They screen a ton.
    • Ed has Purdue up to 21% from 8%ish. Upset talk is coming from the trolls.
    • Red zone offense does not exist.
    • Worse games than Florida-Tennessee’s 4th quarter?
    • Air Force’s power option was effective, then it went away, then it came back and was effective—Michigan didn’t adjust to it.
    • AF had safeties at 7-8 yards all game: stuff you up until they give up a huge play.
    • Unlucky that Michigan couldn’t get touchdowns when they did.
    • Where was the max pro play-action deep ball?
    • How did Don Brown fly under the radar so long?
    • RBs missing their cuts—Ty Wheatley Sr. effect?
    • Devin Bush love: so effective as a blitzer. Michigan recruited him like a 5-star
    • Don’t hit Wilton Speight with a car.

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