B1G Championship Game Site Downselect

B1G Championship Game Site Downselect

Submitted by MGoShoe on May 17th, 2011 at 10:08 PM

According to this Adam Rittenberg article, it's likely that one of two candidates will be chosen to be the long term site of the B1G Football Championship Game and the Men's and Women's Basketball Tournaments: Chicago/Hoffman Estates and Indianapolis.

The two groups both made detailed presentations Tuesday before Big Ten athletic directors and other officials at the league's spring meetings. Although other cities and facilities have expressed interest in hosting future Big Ten football championship games -- Detroit, Cleveland, Green Bay -- the league is almost certainly going to go with Chicago/Hoffman Estates and/or Indianapolis.

Indianapolis is bidding to host the football championship game at Lucas Oil Stadium and both the men's and women's basketball tournaments at Conseco Fieldhouse. The [Chicago/Hoffman Estates] group would host the football championship at Soldier Field, the men's basketball tournament at the United Center and the women's hoops tournament at Sears Centre in suburban Hoffman Estates.

Could other cities still get involved? A rotation of championship sites remains possible, Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany said. "[But t]hose are the two cities we're talking to right now. We are where we're going to be. That's who we've spoken with so far. We would send the signal, but for now, these are the two cities we've sent signals to."

The inaugural Big Ten football title game takes place Dec. 3 at Lucas Oil in Indianapolis. Big Ten basketball tournaments have been held at both Conseco Fieldhouse and the United Center, although Indianapolis has hosted the events exclusively since 2008.

OT - Future MGoDad

OT - Future MGoDad

Submitted by lunchboxthegoat on May 16th, 2011 at 2:30 PM

So, really off topic but hopefully the community at large won't mind and will allow me a moment...


I am about to be an MgoDad for the first time. I'm  young, I was the youngest sibling to no experience with babies or child rearing. I know nothing about children and am a bit fearful. So, I ask you dear MgoReader any advice, suggestions, books/articles to read to help prepare me please share!





EDIT: Thanks everyone for the well wishes and great advice. This community surprises me time and time again with your willingness to help and sincere care for one another. Yet another reason why its great to be a Michigan Wolverine.


FTR: its a girl. Audrey Victoria (for Victors! Yes, I won that discussion)


Griese-Hutchinson-Woodson Charity Event Wrap Up and Its Future

Griese-Hutchinson-Woodson Charity Event Wrap Up and Its Future

Submitted by MGoShoe on May 15th, 2011 at 3:09 PM

In A2.com, Mike Rothstein recaps the wildly successful fourth edition of the Brian Griese, Steve Hutchinson, Charles Woodson Champions for Children's Hearts weekend. The weekend's events raised more than $1.9M (not counting the $3M donated by Al Glick and his foundation to name the seventh floor of the new hospital after Lloyd Carr).

But Hutchinson and Woodson are not satisfied. They want to expand the event and will likely move to add other purposes for the donated funds:

Hutchinson and Charles Woodson said they are going to try and make the bigger next year. With the $75 million for the new hospital almost fully raised, Hutchinson said they will shift where the donated money goes. But the tournament will go on — and potentially expand.

Former Michigan basketball player and current Wolverines’ director of basketball operations Travis Conlan was a fixture at the event’s festivities this year and Jalen Rose showed up this year for Saturday's dinner.

Hutchinson said he’s also spoken to Juwan Howard about getting involved. And he’s holding out hope the biggest Michigan name from the past three decades, Tom Brady, might eventually make an appearance.

“You get guys, the Fab Five back, you keep getting people like that back, maybe one of these times we’ll get Tom Brady back, if his schedule works,” said Hutchinson.  “Just a huge draw if people know they are coming and are beating on the door to come down. As long as that happens, you’re selling yourself short if you don’t grow with it.”

“It’s as good as it’s been,” Woodson said. “But I think we can get bigger. We’ll try to think of ways to make that happen next year, but this year was absolutely incredible.”

I don't put anything past these guys, especially if they can get more of the most popular former Wolverines players (Tom Brady, Desmond Howard, Juwan Howard, Jalen Rose) to lend their names and time to the event.

[Within five posts is my bet, BTW.]

OT: Late night Sadness/bitching thread (aka pos-bang away)

OT: Late night Sadness/bitching thread (aka pos-bang away)

Submitted by Noleverine on May 13th, 2011 at 2:09 AM

Hey all, I know you're sad about the game.  I am too.  The Wings should have won that one.  Let's take some time to vent our frustrations, and pos-bang eachother into some sort of happiness-like substance.

OT: proudest moment ever as a michigan fan

OT: proudest moment ever as a michigan fan

Submitted by andrewG on May 12th, 2011 at 10:58 AM

My wife is in med school and just messaged me after rounds:

"i have a problem. i don't think i could ever treat patients who are ohio state people
 we saw one today, and i just tensed up and felt really uncomfortable"

Could not be more proud.

Got me thinking, what are all of your proudest moments as a Michigan fan?

EDIT: this was meant to be more humorous than serious, and only to serve as a segue to the question at the end. apologies to all those offended.

OT: Still up?

OT: Still up?

Submitted by Noleverine on May 11th, 2011 at 2:28 AM

This thread is to discuss anything at all.  Be it tattoo gate, players'/recruits' twitter, or anything else you'd like to talk about that you can't out of fear of being berated by other posters (within the confines of MGoBlog rules, of course).

Why does Eastern Michigan Play D-1 Athletics?

Why does Eastern Michigan Play D-1 Athletics?

Submitted by Zone Left on May 7th, 2011 at 5:44 PM


The PAC-12 announced an enormous media deal this week that’s worth a reported $22 million per school per year. The Big 10 and SEC have monster TV deals in place that virtually ensure profitability for their member athletic departments for the near future. That’s life on the top of the FBS division, and there’s no doubt that football is the key driver of both revenue and expenses.

This diary is about the other half. The financial straights of the lower tier of FBS, specifically the MAC, Sun Belt, and post Boise State WAC are also largely driven by football. Unfortunately for them, the train has fallen off of a cliff instead of chugging towards the land of monocles and gold toilets.  These schools are reduced to selling home games to artificially increase attendance numbers and playing body bag games to pad revenue.

Specifically, this is about Eastern Michigan football and EMU athletics. What, if any, benefits does the school derive and what are the costs associated with those benefits? Why do they field teams at all on the D-1 level?

College sports have a purpose. The NCAA says that its purpose and the larger point of intercollegiate athletics is to promote things like sportsmanship, integrity, the pursuit of athletic and academic excellence, respect and leadership. These are all good things to promote and I believe athletics can help cultivate those qualities. However, a good club program or the intramural programs that most universities run with student fees can accomplish the same goals and provide much greater access than D-1 athletics. Thus, in my mind, schools must derive some other benefit from D-1 athletics than simply promoting certain values in its athletes—of which Eastern has about 465.

Every FBS school should probably ask itself what benefits it derives from big-time football. It’s a shockingly expensive undertaking, can give the school tons of press (both good and bad), can generate enormous revenue, and can be a significant drain on student funds. It’s easy for the University of Michigan to make a cost-benefit analysis for its football team and athletic department in general. It generates many millions of dollars for the athletic department and is a self-sustaining enterprise. Sure, it’s attached to the school, but it costs the school nothing. The Board of Regents never needs to worry about eliminating a student program to fund football.

Eastern Michigan has a tougher time. Last year, EMU’s athletic expenses were $24.64 million, a whopping 9.2% of the school's General Fund. For a little perspective, there are about 23000 students enrolled at EMU, of which about 2% are intercollegiate athletes. They use their share of the 90.8% of the budget spent on items other than athletics, but 9.2% of the budget is used exclusively to support athletics. Sure, some of that $24 million comes out of TV deals, sponsorship, and ticket sales, but the database shows that to be only about $1.7 million. Everything else comes from the General Fund in some way. By the way, tuition went up 3.8% in 2009-10 at EMU.

However, EMU could still justify athletics if the non-monetary benefits made athletics worthwhile for the school. I think sports teams at U of M make valuable contributions to the student body. Aside from pride, I firmly believe that the Michigan diaspora—I see shirts everywhere—stays engaged with the school in large part due to the visibility of the sports teams. This has benefits for job seeking grads, networking alums, and helps donations to the school. Maybe this is the case at EMU too, but it doesn’t help too much. They only received about $3 million in gifts last year. Even if all of those were directly the result of athletics, there are still almost $20 million that the school gives each year to athletics. People don’t go to games and EMU athletics aren’t on TV unless they’re getting drilling by a Big 10 team in September.

The world has changed. Regardless of why (and let’s not get into it), Michigan doesn’t have money to waste. Why is a public university spending almost 10% of their General Fund on entities that only directly benefit 2% of the student body and don’t produce discernable benefits for the student body, alumni base, or school? Michigan and Michigan State are different. Their athletic departments aren’t a choice of resource allocation for the school. If the department closes, the money disappears. If EMU closes its athletic department, there are over $20 million, by my count, that can be reallocated to improving education, facilities, or even lowering tuition.

Why can’t EMU de-emphasize athletics and expand its club offerings? They could bus to CMU, WMU, Northern Michigan, Toledo, etc and play at a rented high school field on Saturdays. The players could work out at a student gym instead of a team gym. The same could be done with other sports. Just as many students could play, but for millions less. If I was a Regent, I’d ask why.