OT: Thanks and update on my youth team

OT: Thanks and update on my youth team

Submitted by Topher on October 17th, 2010 at 1:59 PM

I posted this to thank everybody who gave me tips a couple weeks ago, when I posted "my youth FB team stinks." We lost yesterday 7-0, but we played by far our best game of the year, following up the week before when we scored our first touchdown. We have struggled against a ridiculously tough schedule which hasn't helped the kids get confident but we were sharp yesterday.

-Most of the tips involved making practice more fun for the kids. We have a lot of fun built in to the practice already so it was good to see that was a universal, but what really helped us was getting more serious with discipline. We now deliver five unconditional up downs to the team in the event of a false start, offsides or fumble in practice. Maybe I've been reading too much Rick Reilly, but I didn't like the idea of being the coach who calls for running or pushups or whatnot for mistakes...I don't want to lead through fear. But I've found the kids really improve when that kind of threat is on the line, and it's not scarring them (in fact I think they like knowing we are serious about our boundaries. As Bo said, they WANT you to coach them).

-I'm also sort of a demanding hardass in my regular life, so I wanted to dial it back while coaching the kids. As it is, I've found that being demanding works if it's fair and consistent and I don't give any sign that I'm emotionally invested. We also NEVER, ever punish kids for poor performance - only for practice mental mistakes or disrespecting (e.g. not paying attention, screwing around or walking when they should be running).

-We only have 15 players so scrimmaging is impossible. However, on the advice of a friend, I started running mini-football games, six or seven men to a side on a shrunken field with down and distance and everything. THAT really helped them understand that you have to go to the whistle, you can't just stop once you've made your block, how to compete each play, etc. Plus it's easier to keep an eye on everybody's technique when it's not 22 players at a time.

-We've also made some strategic moves - we've figured out who's really able to tackle on defense, so we put those kids in position to contain and to make plays, and we put two of our most aggressive kids at running back beacuse that way we can sometimes get yards even if the blocking doesn't pan out. We may have a shot at a win before the year is out, but at any rate I think our kids are starting to get the game of football. I appreciate the support.

To All RR Haters...

To All RR Haters...

Submitted by hausoian on October 17th, 2010 at 1:58 PM


After reading some of the posts around here, I am shocked by what people are saying about RR. I don't post here often, but I do read the forums quite a bit. What I see is people mistaking game-specific mistakes and lack of execution for deep-rooted issues with the program. I mean, really, the overreaction is getting a little much. It's childish.

First let's start with the offense over the past two games (since everyone can agree it was basically Denard being a man among boys in the first five games). We have had SEVEN turnovers in the past two games. As RR says, we are not good enough to win games with that many turnovers. Then again, who is? And keep in mind we are playing with sophomore quarterbacks, one of whom wasn't able to hit the broad side of a barn last year. These guys are still developing and are going to make boneheaded mistakes. By the way, most teams with sophomore quarterbacks not meant to be first-round NFL draft picks are going to struggle. That's just how it is.

With that said, what more do you want offensively after watching yesterday? 300 yards passing, 100 rushing? Over 500 yards against THAT defense? This is a defense with a top-10 draft pick, virtually all seniors or upperclassmen, with Norm Parker who has been there a long time. We have been yelling and screaming for a more diverse and active offense all those years under LC and we finally got it. Don't complain.

Okay, the defense blows. We can all agree with that. Now, look at the depth chart. Our seniors are role players, not dominators, save for Mouton. At some points we are literally throwing backups on the field and hoping that we don't give up six. That is how little depth we have. Just look at when we sub in Patterson. The secondary is a mess with a host of true freshmen or guys not cut out to be premier corners. And don't even start to blame GERG--I guarantee he is a better DC than most. Starting a former WR at FS as a frosh is not a start to a good defense. 

Okay, you knew all that. But then you start to play the blame game and say that RR should be fired (or at least on a tight leash) since he hasn't been able to put together even a Northwestern-level defense. Yes, maybe RR should have never gone after Demar Dorsey because of grades, but are you going to fault a guy because he thought he could get a guy who would help us immediately? Turner, Cissoko, Warren, and Woolfolk were definitely not his fault. Not to mention the guys in the 2008 class (whose slots in the recruiting charts should mean that they would be our starters now) who barely made it to campus before leaving. 

So, who do I blame? I blame Cissoko for making bad decisions, Warren for leaving early, Turner for never stepping up, Woolfolk's ankle for exploding, and, yes, RR for recruiting Dorsey. Oh, and the fact that Lloyd crapped the bed on the 2007 and 2008 classes. 

But you have heard all of this before. So why do you refuse to listen? Probably because, naturally, we live in a society of instant gratification and we see MSU and OSU in the national headlines (for good reasons), not to mention beating us. But hey, let MSU have their moment in the sun once every 20 years, and let OSU's empire come crumbling down just like ours did. It will take time. Deal with it. Frosh will be sophomores, sophs will be juniors, and juniors will be seniors. 


So, stop whining.



Plz stop with the: "we lost to top 15 teams"

Plz stop with the: "we lost to top 15 teams"

Submitted by FingerMustache on October 17th, 2010 at 1:45 PM

I cant even count how many posts iv seen that are some derivative of: "smile...both of the teams we lost to are ranked in the top 12."

Thank you...we know.

We all came into these season with the expectation of losing a few. An 8-4 finish, which is still very much a possibility, would exceed most preseason expectations.

But the issue isnt that we lost, its how we lost:

     - Three turnovers

     - one missed FG

     - needless penalties (the face masks need to stop)

     - two kickoffs out of bounds

     - missed tackles

     - failure to cover on the blocked kick

     - missed interception opportunities.

     - questionable personnel decisions

We didnt lose to two top opponents...we lost to ourselves, and two top 15 opponents just happened to be on the field with us.

So stop trying to convince everyone that they are stupid for being frustrated. Yes, im frustrated, and i think it is justified

New USA Today Poll Out

New USA Today Poll Out

Submitted by winterblue75 on October 17th, 2010 at 12:46 PM
Oct. 17, 2010
Team (first-place votes)
Last week's ranking
Oregon (42)
TCU (1)
Florida State
Mississippi State
Miami (Fla.)
Dropped out
No. 21 Nevada (6-1, lost to Hawaii 27-21), No. 22 Florida (4-3, lost to then-unranked Mississippi State 10-7), No. 23 Air Force (5-2, lost to San Diego State 27-25), No. 24 Michigan (5-2, lost to then-No. 14 Iowa 38-28).
Others receiving votes
Northwestern (5-1) 60; Kansas State (5-1) 53; Nevada (6-1) 28; Michigan (5-2) 23; Hawaii (5-2) 9; North Carolina (5-2) 8; Georgia Tech (5-2) 6; Air Force (5-2) 5; East Carolina (4-2) 4; Baylor (5-2) 3; Navy (4-2) 1.

Tracking 2010 Turnovers & Special Teams – Updated Thru Iowa

Tracking 2010 Turnovers & Special Teams – Updated Thru Iowa

Submitted by Enjoy Life on October 17th, 2010 at 12:12 PM
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2010_1016IowaGame0058X Synopsis for Turnovers: "Turnovers, yeah, that's ridiculous…. You know, we're not good enough to make mistakes and beat anybody. I told you, everybody that earlier, our team understands that. Especially the ones – you're moving the ball, you're inside the red zone, inside the 15 and you fumble it. And then we kick a field goal and it's about this high [hand gesture about head high] and that gets blocked….And then the penalties, we're our own worst enemy in the first half with the silly penalties. That's just ridiculous and we gotta get that cleaned up." Rich Rodriguez.

M has been –7 in TOM the past 2 games. Turnovers have now reached the point that a winning season (6-6 or better) is in jeopardy! Only 28% of teams with a TOM of –5 or worse had a winning record (basis: all FBS—AQ teams for the past 5 years).



To reiterate: turnovers are NOT primarily due to luck. Turnovers ARE primarily due to poor performance and/or inexperienced players. Turnover margins often increase when the relative experience and skill of the opposing teams are significantly different. Over the next 5 games, M will face 3 teams (Penn State, Illinois, Purdue) with similar (or perhaps less) experience at key positions and 2 teams (Wisconsin, osu) with more experience at key positions. How the turnover battle shakes out will have a major impact on how many of those games Michigan can win. If we can maintain a neutral or positive TOM, all of those games are winnable. If not…….(I will make no comment about the chart on the right. It is what it is.)

BTW, blocked punts, blocked field goals, on-side kick recovered by the opposing team, roughing the kicker penalties, etc. are not considered to be "official" turnovers but have the same effect. I will continue to track these also.

Overall, M declined from +1 TOM to –3 TOM and the national ranking climbed to #79. Turnovers lost are now about the same as an average team but turnovers gained are just 69% of the average team. All TOs, except the last interception by Tate, have occurred at important times during the games.

Synopsis for Special Teams

imageAnother mixed review for special teams. Hagerup in now ranked #28 nationally and ended up with 50.3 average yards per punt and a net of the same 50.3 yards per punt! M's overall net punting includes a couple of pooch punts by Denard and Tate and (amazingly to me) the blocked punt by Hagerup is NOT included in his stats – it is included in the overall team stats for punting. Starting field position for the opposition after our kickoff remains at the 29 yard line (slightly better than average). Broekhuizen had a 38 yard FG blocked that was then returned 37 yards to the M48. He also sent two kickoffs out of bounds (which is really just an 11 yard penalty versus the average starting field position after KOs).

National Rankings:



Details for Turnovers:

Here is the Summary by Game. According to the folks at Football Outsiders  a first down TO is worth 5 points, second down TO is worth 4.5 points, and a third down TO is worth 4.0 points (regardless of field position!).


The extrapolation is a straight line [Totals] X [13 Total Games / Games Played]. AQ Best and AQ average is over the past 10 years. AQ Best is kind of funky because the team with the "best" in each category is different so the numbers don't add. But it does provide a point of reference.

Here is the detail of each fumble/interception and a comment providing insight if the turnover (or lack thereof) was significant. Note, blocked punts are not considered a turnover and an interception of an extra point is not considered a turnover (player does not get credit for a interception).


Here is the overall summary by player (data in yellow was affected by this week's game).


Details for Special Teams:

Here are the Punting and Kickoff statistics. (Touchbacks are included as –20 yards when determining net yards.)


Remember here are the correlations of TOM to WLM at season's end.


Sunday Morning Stats - Week 7

Sunday Morning Stats - Week 7

Submitted by HeismanPose on October 17th, 2010 at 11:48 AM

Figured I'd turn this into a regular feature.  Just a compilation of stats to show where the team is at, presented without comment.  All rankings are national (out of 120 FBS teams) unless otherwise noted.

Overall Rank- 37th (5th in the Big Ten)
SOS Rank - 49th (3rd in the Big Ten)

Scoring - 36.0 p/g (17th)
Rushing - 281.6 yds/g (7th)
Passing - 250.4 yds/g (36th)
Pass Eff - 159.83 (15th)
Total - 532.0 yds/g (3rd)
Sacks Allowed - .43/game (5th)
TFL Allowed - 3.57 (5th)
Turnovers Lost  - 12 (67th)
RedZone - 84% (50th)
3rd Down - 46.59% (28th)
4th Down - 80.0% (11th)

Scoring - 28.4 pts/g (82nd)
Rushing - 144.7 yds/g (57th)
Passing - 296.3 yds/g (105th)
Pass Eff - 140.95 (94th)
Total - 441.0 yds/g (105th)
Sacks - 1.43/game (85th)
TFL - 5.71/g (71st)
Turnovers Gained - 9 (83rd)
Red Zone - 88% (93rd)
3rd Down - 42.00% (86th)
4th Down - 64.71% (90th)

Special Teams/Other
Net Punting- 37.68 (42nd)
Net Kicking- ?
Punt Returning - 5.11 yds/ret (100th)
Kick Returning - 19.37 yds/ret (100th)
Punt Return D - 9.4 yds/ret (71st)
Kick Return D - 18.42 yds/ret (11th)
Field Goals - 25.0% (118th)
Penalties- 5.0 pen/g (16th)
Penalty Yards - 51.0 pen yds/g (54th)
TOP - 28:32 (90th)

Denard  - Rushing
1096 rush yds (1st); 156.6 rush yds/g (2nd)

Denard - Passing
1319 pass yds (53rd); 188.4 pass yds/g (66th); 9.2 yds/att (9th); 159.1 rating (16th)

9.00 tackles/g (44th)

8.71 tackles/g (53rd)

8.43 tackles/g (63rd)

43.6 avg punt (34th)
(Note: over the past three games, Hagerup has punted 11 times for an average of 48.3 yards.  That would be good for 2nd nationally).

Minnesota Fires Tim Brewster

Minnesota Fires Tim Brewster

Submitted by Geaux_Blue on October 17th, 2010 at 10:48 AM

Minnesota is 1-6, 0-3 in Big Ten - Offensive coordinator Jeff Horton will serve as interim head coach for the remainder of the season

For those wishing to smack their head on the table just a little harder - Minnesota is not on the remaining schedule for Michigan


He will be paid a buyout of $600,000 stemming from a contract extension he signed in January. The extension ran through the 2013 season but included a lower buyout than his original deal with the school.

Brewster was informed of the decision Sunday morning. Maturi had discussed Brewster's future with university president Robert Bruininks several times in recent weeks, and Bruininks was "in complete agreement with the decision to remove Brewster as head coach," according to a news release.


More information as it becomes available

OT: Attn Lloyd Brady- Please read

OT: Attn Lloyd Brady- Please read

Submitted by Hoken's Heroes on October 17th, 2010 at 10:38 AM

Dear Lloyd Brady,

If you read this blog, I have a request for you. I realize that UM won't be at home on OCT 30th for you to dress up for Halloween, but for the next home game, can you please disguise yourself like this guy so that you can elevate yourself into a bigger internet celeb than you already are? I know I and many others would appreciate it.

Thank you,

Big Redacted


PS: Be Like Denard, do not let your new founded fame go to your head.


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Positive Post: All Hail Khoury, Demens, and Forcier

Positive Post: All Hail Khoury, Demens, and Forcier

Submitted by Hoken's Heroes on October 17th, 2010 at 10:17 AM

All came off the bench and manned up. Sure, Tate made a few costly mistakes but he did keep UM in the game. Khoury did a great job at center considering the circumstances. And Demens stepped in and filled the gaps and made some great tackles for a team that really is struggling to tackle.


addendum: Reason Kovacs isn't listed here is because he started. I am hailing those that came off the bench and performed pretty darn well for not being starters or getting a lot of playing time. But yes, Kovacs did a hell of a job and has a lot of responsibility put on his shoulders considering just how porous the D is. He gets no help what so ever.