Wisconsin DC Dave Doeren: With Denard Michigan brings "downhill attack"

Wisconsin DC Dave Doeren: With Denard Michigan brings "downhill attack"

Submitted by markusr2007 on November 16th, 2010 at 11:33 AM

An interesting perspective below from a team that is well-known for it's own "downhill rushing offense".

From the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel:

Wisconsin DC Dave Doeren:

"You see a more true downhill running game when Denard is the quarterback," UW defensive coordinator Dave Doeren said. "They do the same zone read with both of them.

"But Denard will get the ball in the shotgun and they've got two lead blockers plus the O-line and he makes things go.

"Forcier is an accomplished passer. I'm not saying Denard can't throw. But I'm saying there are going to be more route concepts you're probably defending when Forcier comes in the game.

"There are just more drop-back throws. With Denard there are more play-action, sprint-outs and bootlegs. Not a lot of drop-back passes."

UW DL Coach Charlie Partridge:

He is so fast that if you lose him for a second he can make you pay dearly," UW defensive line coach Charlie Partridge said. "You've got to be aware of where he is at all times . . .

"He can make you miss well enough that if he does make a guy miss he can be gone. I've known who this kid is for a lot of years from recruiting down there in Florida. He is a little bit of a local legend. I'm very aware of how fast he really is."

UW HC Bret Bielema on Denard:

"Robinson, everybody wants to talk about him running the football," UW coach Bret Bielema said. "He looks very special doing that . . . I know he's had some picks, some bad decisions, but he's got a live arm. Because of what he can do in the running game, he really throws your secondary and linebackers in isolated coverages.

Do coaches encourage dirty play?

Do coaches encourage dirty play?

Submitted by StephenRKass on November 16th, 2010 at 10:11 AM

Yesterday there was a post on Fairley's cheap shots in the Auburn - Georgia game (http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/auburns-nick-fairley-cheap-shot-artist.) To me, it sure doesn't look good. I have several questions, not just with this, but with cheap shots in general.

  1. How many of you have seen coaches encourage dirty play? (as a player, or another coach with a coach letting it happen.) This could happen in two ways:  either to ignore cheap shots, or to actively encourage them. There have been comments on here about Saban, Chizik, Bielema, Hope, and Dantonio. Is there any insider info. on these coaches and dirty play?
  2. Can you refresh my memory on any Big 10 coaches suspending their own players for cheap shots, especially prior to outside outrage and pressure?
  3. Why does it seem that nothing happens? Are the Conferences and the NCAA toothless?
  4. What is the line between having a "hard edge" and dirty play? I personally think that there is no room for shots with the goal of injuring someone else, but not everyone feels the same way. We love the photo of Branch walking away after he leveled the PSU QB. That's obv. a clean hit. I guess I would just hope that we want the rules applied in a fair way.

Those who stay....

Those who stay....

Submitted by Blue Blue Blue on November 16th, 2010 at 8:19 AM

RichRod has mentioned that Senior Day is a chance to honor the seniors who honored their committment to Michigan.....and he contrasted them with those who left.


as their only seem to be 7 or 8 seniors on the roster, what is the list of  players who came in with the currnet seniors but are no longer in Ann Arbor?

Impact transfers, 2010

Impact transfers, 2010

Submitted by blueheron on November 16th, 2010 at 7:31 AM

As most of you know, an impressive number of players have left UMich during RichRod's tenure.  They've landed at all sorts of places, but in this post I'm going to focus on three that were rated among the top ten transfers "to watch" this season in an article on the ... Bleacher Report(!) site.  Your Michigan transfers:

#10 Toney Clemons
#7 Sam McGuffie
#2 Steven Threet

How have things gone for the former Wolverines?

Toney Clemons >>> In this case, the article's prediction seems reasonable.  It appears that he is (by receptions, at least) their #2 guy: http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/stats/_/id/38/colorado-buffalo…  Presumably he skipped town because he was trailing Roundtree, Stonum, et al. and didn't figure to see the field much.  (EDIT: In the comments here it's stated that he wanted to play outside instead of the slot, where the coaches had him.  I didn't know that.)

Sam McGuffie >>> Here's another case where the prediction turned out pretty well.  He's the leading rusher and (again, by receptions) receiver at Rice: http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/stats/_/id/242/rice-owls  Notice that his yards-per-carry number isn't very good.  I still think receiver is his best position.

Steven Threet >>> They nailed the last part, because Threet won the starting job.  It has been a so-so year for the Sun Devils, though.  They're at 4-6 (2-5 in conference) and they've lost a bunch of close games.  As for Threet, he currently sits at 47th (out of 112 ... Denard, by the way, is 14th) by passer rating, which is very respectable.  On the downside, he leads the nation in (d'oh) throwing passes to the wrong team: http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/so…  In fairness to him, he's in the top quartile in attempts.

So, were their preseason rankings justified?  Not sure ... I'll leave that to people with more information.  What seems obvious is that great faith is placed in high school recruiting rankings even after a couple of years.

Here's the article: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/426284-the-top-20-college-football-t…

Michigan's First Game of the Season as a True Underdog

Michigan's First Game of the Season as a True Underdog

Submitted by bklein09 on November 16th, 2010 at 12:20 AM

I was thinking about the game this weekend when I realized that this is the first time this season that Michigan is truly a dog. 

I'm pretty sure MSU was a toss up with both teams 5-0, and even though Iowa may have been favored, that game was pretty even going in since it was at the Big House. PSU was about even as well IIRC.

Well this weekend we play the #7 team in the country, fresh off an 83 point explosion and poised to make a run at their first Rose Bowl in over 10 years. Wisconsin is running on all cylinders, and they will not come into Ann Arbor ill-prepared. 

Everyone gets up for Michigan. And Wisconsin will not think twice about hanging 40+ points on us in an embarrassing fashion. 

So I hope this team plays like is has nothing to lose. 

Over the past few years I've learned that a win is a win, no matter how you get it. 

And guess what? At the end of the day, a loss is a loss too.

So if there was ever a game to stack the box, bring the heat, and see if our secondary can bump and run...this is it. At least thats my opinion. 

I think we should pull out all the stops and see what goes down. Because the worse thing that could happen is that our defense gets lit up, which like, O-K. And the best thing that could happen is that we could finally discover a formula that works on our way to 8+ wins. And right on time too, with OSU coming up the following week.

Wisconsin is going to try to run the ball no matter how many people we put in the box. So lets make them earn every yard they get on the ground. And if they use PA and hit us over the top then so be it. This week, I don't want to die a slow death. This week, I don't want to play bend don't break defense. I want to see what happens when we hit them in the face.

Anyways, thats just the feeling I am getting about this game. And I'm not afraid to admit that a lot of the reason I feel this way is that I don't see us having much of a chance unless we change things up. Its not that I'm a pessimist or don't have faith in our team. I just think Wisky is a really solid team this year that truly deserves to be ranked where they are.

No matter what strategy we go with, however, I'm anxious to see what the boys can do this weekend with no pressure or expectations on their shoulders.

Go Blue!

Out of town Michigan viewing--A Lesson

Out of town Michigan viewing--A Lesson

Submitted by yossarians tree on November 15th, 2010 at 10:40 PM

Pay attention to your Mgoblog out of town Michigan viewing thread. This last weekend I found myself having a beautiful time in NYC. After walking around the Central Park area with my wife, we decided we wanted to watch the second half of the Michigan game, but alas, without a computer and access to Mgoblog, we did not know where to go. We even happened upon a group of 20-something guys walking around all in Michigan gear and carrying a football. "Hey," I said, "Where are you guys watching the game?" Turns out it was halftime but they were watching at their apartment, out taking a walk. We ended up at Mickey Mantles on Central Park and of the 25 TVs one game had Michigan-Purdue so we were able to watch the end.

Interestingly, there were college football fans from all over the country and we ended up talking college football for a few hours. We even spent an hour talking football with a couple who are Buckeye fans, and I must report they were very nice, intelligent, and supportive of Michigan's return to prominence for the sake of The Greatest Rivalry in Sports. I shook the guy's hand, wished him luck, and said, "Be careful what you wish for!"