Does Iowa's loss move UM up the bowl ladder?

Does Iowa's loss move UM up the bowl ladder?

Submitted by Logan88 on November 27th, 2010 at 8:08 PM

I think most UM fans had assumed UM was going to be relegated to the Insight Bowl, but with Iowa's amazing choke at Minnesota does UM's bowl position improve?

Iowa, PSU, UM and N'Western are all tied with an overall record of 7-5 with Illinois possibly joining the mix if they beat Fresno State in Fresno. While Iowa and PSU both beat UM and have better conference records, bowl selection groups could still take UM over one or both of those teams. UM still is perceived as a "brand name" team and has not been to a bowl game in the preceding two seasons which might be enough to secure a higher than expected bowl bid.

If I had to lay money on it (Hey jamiemac, do you want to make up the odds for this?), I think UM gets picked ahead of Iowa but behind PSU and ends up in the Gator Bowl at this point.

contact Athletic Department and Brandon?

contact Athletic Department and Brandon?

Submitted by MGlobules on November 27th, 2010 at 7:40 PM

I'm figuring there's going to be an onslaught of negativity toward RichRod after today's debacle. It really was a bad day for Michigan and the football team (not too great for hoops, either). But I want to write to Brandon and tell him that I support the coach for at least one more year. For me, the calculus is pretty simple: a pattern of improvement against considerable odds and the chance to show, with a maturing team, that he can win. If we're changing horses we might as well do it a year from now, as RichRod's kids begin to move out of the program. Harbaugh can go screw up in the NFL, which won't be as much fun as Michigan would be anyway, and come here with NFL cache after fooling around there for a while; it doesn't follow that we'll never get him if we don't strike now. 

Has anyone got Brandon' s email address? (When you look up AD at UMich Athletics, surprisingly, a picture of Martin comes up--not super-professional, or expected, given that Brandon has elevated the office considerably since coming on board.) 

Thanks in advance, and I hope others will consider following suit. 

If not Harbaugh who is Plan B?

If not Harbaugh who is Plan B?

Submitted by mGrowOld on November 27th, 2010 at 7:16 PM

Not five seconds after the game ended my 63 year old brother was on the phone demanding that Rich be fired and Harbaugh be made the Head Coach.  He said he was "embarrassed" yet again and as a Michigan alumni he didn't much like being embarrassed.  He proceeded to list every play that went wrong and decided that they were all a function of poor coaching.  When I tried to reason with him on the age of the team we were fielding he gave me the "but we're Michigan" rationale that age was no excuse.  I listen to him for a while and then asked him "who do you want as coach if Harbaugh says no thanks".  He had no answer.

 I want to be VERY clear that I am still firmly in the keep RichRod camp.  If I was Brandon I would tell Rich that Gerg and all the D assistants have to go and that we're going to throw as much money as we can at the best DC we can find and let him pick his team. 

Now that I established where I fall on the coaching issue I have an open question to the anti-Rich faction of the board (and my brother).  If Harbaugh says no - who's your plan B?  Les Miles?  Cam Cameron? Chris Peterson?  Gary Patterson?  Who?  I think we need to look no further than South Bend to see what happens when you start making coaching changes without a solid replacement lined up. 

 There seems to be this presumption that Harbaugh would leap at the chance to come back home but what if he says no.  Then what?

The Struggles of Traditional Football Powers

The Struggles of Traditional Football Powers

Submitted by bklein09 on November 27th, 2010 at 7:07 PM

Here's some food for thought:

Texas: 5-7 (2-6) in 2010

Miami (YTM): 7-5 in 2010, 7-6 in 2008, 5-7 in 2007, 7-6 in 2006, etc

Notre Dame: lol, we all know about this one!

USC: 7-4 (4-4) in 2010, plus devastating sanctions

Florida: 7-5 (4-4) in 2010

Florida State: having a good year in 2010, but has been down a while compared to norms

Penn State: 7-5 (4-4) in 2010

Iowa: falls to 7-5 after losing to Minny today...same record as us, although better in BT play

(Yes I know Iowa is not a traditional power, but I still thought I'd throw them in here.)

I didn't even mention things like USC prior to Carrol or Bama prior to Saban. I also left out several other programs that used to be good but have really collapsed, such as Washington, etc. 

Now, I'm not trying to say that the past 3 seasons at Michigan are no big deal. What I am trying to say is that even the biggest and baddest programs take a step back every now and then. Michigan's step back has been one of the biggest. But we are slowly climbing back to what we used to be IMO, and regardless of whether or not you thought this program needed rebuilding to begin with, that is the reality now. 

This is probably the hardest time in the history of Michigan athletics to be a Michigan fan. But other programs have come out the other side, and I have faith that we will too. Keep the faith and Go Blue!


Applauding RR's integrity and courage for suspending Hagerup for OSU

Applauding RR's integrity and courage for suspending Hagerup for OSU

Submitted by Communist Football on November 27th, 2010 at 7:02 PM


As much as our special teams suffered for losing Hagerup, I have to admire RR for suspending him even though it had a huge negative impact on the game and given that RR is under fire professionally.  RR knows that if he lets Hagerup play in that situation, he'll never be able to enforce team rules again.  That is a guy who is trying to build a program, and whatever you think of RR, I respect him for that.

I wonder if we'll ever find out what Hagerup actually did.

Review Question

Review Question

Submitted by Ziff72 on November 27th, 2010 at 6:39 PM

What was up with the refs not reviewing the non interception on Tate and then springing into action on the non fumble?

It appeared the OSU fans were getting a good view of the replay as they groaned on the fumble.  Did Buckeye Bob kill the replay on the interception?   

That was a special dong punch to start the half.

Who is our leader?

Who is our leader?

Submitted by Giff4484 on November 27th, 2010 at 5:24 PM
Who is going to step up finally and replace the loss of Bo? Divided fan base check we have that. Who is going to unite us ? This 4 year nightmare has to end right? Why do I ask this? like it or not we are on the road to becoming the Golden Domers and you all know that.

Proposed banned terms for both sides of RR argument

Proposed banned terms for both sides of RR argument

Submitted by UMdad on November 27th, 2010 at 5:00 PM

OK, I can't turn on the radio or the computer without being inundated with terms people throw out ad nauseum without really adding anything new to the discussion.  Whichever side you fall on in the RR discussion, I propose we ban the following words/ phrases.  Feel free to add your own.

Michigan Man - we get it, you still have a picture of Bo in your office.

Uninformed alumni / fanbase - You don't have any more information than everyone else who watched the games this year, I could give a shit how nice your chart looks