If not Harbaugh who is Plan B?

If not Harbaugh who is Plan B?

Submitted by mGrowOld on November 27th, 2010 at 7:16 PM

Not five seconds after the game ended my 63 year old brother was on the phone demanding that Rich be fired and Harbaugh be made the Head Coach.  He said he was "embarrassed" yet again and as a Michigan alumni he didn't much like being embarrassed.  He proceeded to list every play that went wrong and decided that they were all a function of poor coaching.  When I tried to reason with him on the age of the team we were fielding he gave me the "but we're Michigan" rationale that age was no excuse.  I listen to him for a while and then asked him "who do you want as coach if Harbaugh says no thanks".  He had no answer.

 I want to be VERY clear that I am still firmly in the keep RichRod camp.  If I was Brandon I would tell Rich that Gerg and all the D assistants have to go and that we're going to throw as much money as we can at the best DC we can find and let him pick his team. 

Now that I established where I fall on the coaching issue I have an open question to the anti-Rich faction of the board (and my brother).  If Harbaugh says no - who's your plan B?  Les Miles?  Cam Cameron? Chris Peterson?  Gary Patterson?  Who?  I think we need to look no further than South Bend to see what happens when you start making coaching changes without a solid replacement lined up. 

 There seems to be this presumption that Harbaugh would leap at the chance to come back home but what if he says no.  Then what?

The Struggles of Traditional Football Powers

The Struggles of Traditional Football Powers

Submitted by bklein09 on November 27th, 2010 at 7:07 PM

Here's some food for thought:

Texas: 5-7 (2-6) in 2010

Miami (YTM): 7-5 in 2010, 7-6 in 2008, 5-7 in 2007, 7-6 in 2006, etc

Notre Dame: lol, we all know about this one!

USC: 7-4 (4-4) in 2010, plus devastating sanctions

Florida: 7-5 (4-4) in 2010

Florida State: having a good year in 2010, but has been down a while compared to norms

Penn State: 7-5 (4-4) in 2010

Iowa: falls to 7-5 after losing to Minny today...same record as us, although better in BT play

(Yes I know Iowa is not a traditional power, but I still thought I'd throw them in here.)

I didn't even mention things like USC prior to Carrol or Bama prior to Saban. I also left out several other programs that used to be good but have really collapsed, such as Washington, etc. 

Now, I'm not trying to say that the past 3 seasons at Michigan are no big deal. What I am trying to say is that even the biggest and baddest programs take a step back every now and then. Michigan's step back has been one of the biggest. But we are slowly climbing back to what we used to be IMO, and regardless of whether or not you thought this program needed rebuilding to begin with, that is the reality now. 

This is probably the hardest time in the history of Michigan athletics to be a Michigan fan. But other programs have come out the other side, and I have faith that we will too. Keep the faith and Go Blue!


Applauding RR's integrity and courage for suspending Hagerup for OSU

Applauding RR's integrity and courage for suspending Hagerup for OSU

Submitted by Communist Football on November 27th, 2010 at 7:02 PM


As much as our special teams suffered for losing Hagerup, I have to admire RR for suspending him even though it had a huge negative impact on the game and given that RR is under fire professionally.  RR knows that if he lets Hagerup play in that situation, he'll never be able to enforce team rules again.  That is a guy who is trying to build a program, and whatever you think of RR, I respect him for that.

I wonder if we'll ever find out what Hagerup actually did.

Review Question

Review Question

Submitted by Ziff72 on November 27th, 2010 at 6:39 PM

What was up with the refs not reviewing the non interception on Tate and then springing into action on the non fumble?

It appeared the OSU fans were getting a good view of the replay as they groaned on the fumble.  Did Buckeye Bob kill the replay on the interception?   

That was a special dong punch to start the half.

Who is our leader?

Who is our leader?

Submitted by Giff4484 on November 27th, 2010 at 5:24 PM
Who is going to step up finally and replace the loss of Bo? Divided fan base check we have that. Who is going to unite us ? This 4 year nightmare has to end right? Why do I ask this? like it or not we are on the road to becoming the Golden Domers and you all know that.

Proposed banned terms for both sides of RR argument

Proposed banned terms for both sides of RR argument

Submitted by UMdad on November 27th, 2010 at 5:00 PM

OK, I can't turn on the radio or the computer without being inundated with terms people throw out ad nauseum without really adding anything new to the discussion.  Whichever side you fall on in the RR discussion, I propose we ban the following words/ phrases.  Feel free to add your own.

Michigan Man - we get it, you still have a picture of Bo in your office.

Uninformed alumni / fanbase - You don't have any more information than everyone else who watched the games this year, I could give a shit how nice your chart looks

Tick Tock....

Tick Tock....

Submitted by Hoken's Heroes on November 27th, 2010 at 4:39 PM

....so says the clock that is ticking in regards to RichRod's job security.

No, I am not hinting he will be fired. I am pretty sure that RR will be back next year. The clock that starts ticking after the horrible showing today is about the security of his job. While I agree with the 5 year plan for RR, I just lopped off one year. Next year is do or die for him. The team just never really progressed after the first 5 games and ended up getting worse, in my eyes. RR and staff were fortunate enough to become bowl eligible and that's a big plus. Now, it's about shoring up top D recruits. Do I think the staff will? No. They couldn't for two seasons so why do I think they can now? And why next year is the year for RR to prove he turn this program around. And when I say program, I mean the entire program including the D. How will he do this? I am going to assume Gerg is going to be given his pink slip. And as I have stated ad nauseam, RR needs to hire a DC who will be allowed to PICK HIS OWN STAFF. I don't fully blame Gerg. I also blame the assistants that RR brought with him. Loyalty is an admirable trait but not when your team's defense gets worse and worse 3 years in a row. In fact, the team needs two HC. One for the O and one for the D. But WTF do I know. I still don't think the D will be all that better next year anyways.

And congrats to OSU. They once again took care of their arch rivals with ease.

Here's looking forward to next year.

And yeah, I know we have a bowl game but win or lose, this season was quite disappointing in how it plunged off a cliff.

No matter what...

No matter what...

Submitted by drewro02 on November 27th, 2010 at 4:38 PM

We're still classier than Ohio State fans. Watching the game on tv and seeing their fans in the stands reminded me why I am happy to be a Michigan fan who was born and raised in Cincinnati. Let's support our team no matter who the coach is and root on these kids every time they step foot on a field and wear the colors of our beloved school. GO BLUE!!!