Facing Winners

Facing Winners

Submitted by Bielfeldt's Calves on November 29th, 2010 at 5:37 PM

Each week I put together a unofficial blog poll entry and as an analysis piece I like to look at each team's record against winning and losing FBS teams. I thought it would be interesting to take those records at a conference level. I also found out something interesting about Michigan's schedule when compared nationally. First conferences

Avg# FBS Winning Teams Faced
Big 10 7.09
Big 12 6.75
ACC 6.41
Big East 6.12
Independent 6
SEC 5.75
MWC 5.66
MAC 5.15
WAC 4.87
Pac10 4.7
CUSA 4.66
Sun Belt 3.44

Hey, so ah, PAC-10 way to get out there and get after it. Oregon and Stanford combined have only faced 7 winning teams (two of which are each other). The other piece of fun here is the mighty SEC falling below the ACC and Big East.

That's great but what did they conferences do against those schedules?

Win % vs FBS teams with winning recoreds

Win% vs FBS teams with winning record
Big 12 0.782
Big 10 0.695
SEC 0.642
Independent 0.636
Big East 0.58
ACC 0.509
Pac10 0.424
MWC 0.342
WAC 0.3
CUSA 0.272
MAC 0.155
Sun Belt 0.107

So here the SEC gains some respect back by posting a good overall winning percentage. But I think it's safe to say that Big 12 and Big 10 teams should fair pretty well come bowl time.

Now lets get closer to home since we've arguably established that the Big Ten is a pretty good conference.

Let's see how each Big Ten team did against FBS teams with winning records.

Team Games Wins Losses
Minnesota 9 2 7
Penn State 8 3 5
Michigan 8 3 5
Purdue 8 1 7
MSU 7 6 1
OSU 7 6 1
Illinois 7 3 4
Iowa 7 3 4
Indiana 7 0 7
Wisconsin 5 4 1
Northwestern 5 1 4

So we see that only three teams played as many or more winning teams than Michigan this season. And look as ol Wiscy down there toughing it out with 5 games against winning competition and yet there they go to the Rose Bowl. So Michigan played one of the toughest Big Ten schedules what about nationally.

Team Games Wins Losses Win%
Notre Dame 10 5 5 0.500
Minnesota 9 2 7 0.222
Mizzou 8 6 2 0.750
Ok. State 8 6 2 0.750
Texas A&M 8 5 3 0.625
Penn State 8 3 5 0.375
Michigan 8 3 5 0.375
Pittsburgh 8 3 5 0.375
East Carolina 8 3 5 0.375
Iowa State 8 2 6 0.250
Clemson 8 2 6 0.250
Purdue 8 1 7 0.125
Duke 8 1 7 0.125
Cincinnati 8 1 7 0.125

Of all 120 teams in the FBS 11 faced as many winning teams and only 2 faced more winning teams than Michigan. And of this group Michigan is tied for 5th for the best winning percentage. With only two teams posting winning records. And holy hell ND. I guess that's the price you pay for being independent.

And finally here is a look at teams with winning records against FBS teams Team Games

Team Games Wins Losses Win%
Auburn 5 5 0 1.000
TCU 5 5 0 1.000
Oregon 3 3 0 1.000
MSU 7 6 1 0.857
OSU 7 6 1 0.857
Wisconsin 5 4 1 0.800
VT 5 4 1 0.800
Boise State 5 4 1 0.800
Mizzou 8 6 2 0.750
Ok. State 8 6 2 0.750
Stanford 4 3 1 0.750
Nebraska 4 3 1 0.750
LSU 7 5 2 0.714
Oklahoma 7 5 2 0.714
Arkansas 6 4 2 0.667
South Carolina 6 4 2 0.667
NC State 6 4 2 0.667
Nevada 3 2 1 0.667
Northern Illinois 3 2 1 0.667
Texas A&M 8 5 3 0.625
UCONN 5 3 2 0.600
Hawaii 5 3 2 0.600
Utah 5 3 2 0.600
Alabama 7 4 3 0.571
FSU 7 4 3 0.571
Maryland 7 4 3 0.571

Anyway, take that for what it's worth. I just found it interesting at how small the number of teams that post winning records against teams that have winning records (26), that Big Ten looks a lot tougher than I thought and really that Michigan's schedule was as tough as it was. Carry on with the coaching debate.

Stop Venerating Brandon

Stop Venerating Brandon

Submitted by UMaD on November 29th, 2010 at 5:31 PM

I don't follow other sports as closely, but David Brandon is NOT doing a good job managing over the football program.

Strike 1:  He is responsible for neutering the Ohio State rivalry.  Michigan and OSU should be in the same division.  The last game of the season decides who wins between them.  There is no rematch the following week.  End of Story.  Brandon, wisely, floated the october-game scenario as a red herring and most bit on that as the issue.  Bottom line: he compromised the rivalry -- forever.  The Game will never be the same. This will probably be his greatest legacy as AD and its not a positive one.

Strike 2:  The general "I'm here to make as much money as possible for the athletic department" corporate mentality.  Brian complained about this a few weeks ago.  UofM is more than a corporation.  The athletic department is more than a business.  Michigan football is more than a cash cow.

Strike 3:  The "we'll decide at the end of the season" strategy is crap.  Every single day he waits to decide one way or the other damages the program. Make a decision and let everyone know. Harbaugh's regular season is over.  If he's the guy, hire him YESTERDAY.  If Harbaugh hesitates in the least, give your full unconditional support to RR.

I like how Brandon handled the ncaa investigation, i like how he's dealt with rebuilding the basketball program, and I like how he handles the media.  All that said, "the pimp hand" is slapping the Michigan football program in the face as we speak.  What has this man done to deserve your trust and unwavering support?

No Harbaugh at the Football Bust

No Harbaugh at the Football Bust

Submitted by James Burrill Angell on November 29th, 2010 at 5:09 PM

I know I saw a couple of posts about James showing up at the annual football bust since his 1985 team is being honored but apparently thats not the case.

LINK: http://detnews.com/article/20101129/SPORTS0201/11290382/1361/Jim-Harbaugh-won’t-attend-gala-honoring-’85-Wolverines

Reliving the last coaching search...

Reliving the last coaching search...

Submitted by DCBlue on November 29th, 2010 at 5:06 PM

Couldn't resist re-posting this, from my old haloscan comments from MGoBlog in the last coaching search:

It has been forever since I last posted anything, including even a comment. While I am still a regular follower of MGoBlog, as well as the new WLA, I've basically been a casual onlooker on the blog scene the whole season. As some of you may (or may not) recall, I was a regular commentator and contributor late last season, as well as over the Winter during the coaching search. In fact, I commiserated with many fellow U-M Law alumi, and basically wasted like 1,000 potential billable hours spending endless hours on MGoBlog tracking the coaching search and waiting for Brian to start a new thread that we could comment on. In any event, today I decided to google my MGoBlog handle and read through my old posts during December of last year. A time, I might add I originally referred to as a "shit storm", but later termed "a diarrhea hurricane." I thought some of you might might enjoy a sampling of some of my posts/comments during that time. My favorite is a "memo" I wrote to all of you summarizing the general malaise and paranoia of everyone following the coaching search on MGoBlog. For those that don't remember, "Spicy BM" was a nickname attributed to Bill Martin at a time (I generally analogized him to a bowel movement). As some of you may also remember, I was a Les Miles fan, and believed he would "crawl through glass" to come back to U-M. I also openly pined for Rich Rodriguez. In any case, after re-reading the threads from that time, there is NO FUCKING WAY I can handle another coaching search any time in the near future. The coaching search makes a 3-7 mark look like the 1997 season. LOL. In any case, hope you enjoy the sampling of some of my old posts (current labeling in bold).



Success! I brought my laptop and am at a Starbucks. GJ delayed (fucking AUSAs).



I've decided to give Grobe a pass -- like the Gambino LCN. He gets freedom from bad commentary from me, but he will be required to win a MNC within 3 years of his hiring at Michigan. Sorry, those are the rules. As a former gov't lawyer who proscuted organized crime cases, I don't give a fuck what the Grobe mafia says about it. 3 years and a national championship. If half of what you guys says about Grobe is true that's not asking to much.



Christ, I'm halfway on the Grobe bandwagon.

DCBlue | 12.06.07 - 1:02 pm | #


I think gsimmons85 is Jim Grobe's handle. He's sitting in his office in Winston-Salem typing away.

DCBlue | 12.06.07 - 1:11 pm | #

ON BILL MARTIN, Generally (Sidenote: Can you fucking believe we thought PSU's Bradley even had a chance? LOL)

How great would it be if BM's "process" included having his AD staff run unsubtantiated rumors of potential candidates up the MGoBlog flagpole? Brady Hoke. Nope can't hire him. Urban Meyer, definate possibility. T. Bradley, definately not.

DCBlue | 12.06.07 - 1:13 pm | #


On "Premium" message boards:

I can't imagine paying money for this rumor mongering. "Premium" message board? Unless they furnish coke and hookers, that's ridiculous.

DCBlue | 12.06.07 - 2:00 pm | #

Bill Martin, revisited:

As much as I want to believe that spicy BM's "process" is just like "Fortitude South" in WWII (the plan to deceive the Germans into thinking that the main attack would come in the Pas-de-Calais and the low countries to the east), I just don't buy it. I think Saturdy and Sunday was a huge clusterfuck, probably brought on a little from both sides and now BM is racing for a plan B to save face/his ass.



I mean Jesus, he's not planning the fucking Normandy landings, he's hiring a football coach. This CIA/KGB stuff would be funny if it wasn't so ridiculous.

DCBlue | 12.06.07 - 3:14 pm | #

The "Memo" summarizing the MGoBlog threads at the time:

TO: Blog Fags






After extensive research, and in an attempt to save all of us the trouble of following new threads, please feel free to print out the following cheat sheet that gives a synopis of every MGoBlog discussion.



1. Les Miles = Crawl through glass.

2. Spicy BM = fucked things up

3. Malfunctioning Blackberry/Sailing


5. Oh my god we're fucked.

6. What a shit storm/diarrhea hurricane.

7. Relax, it will all work out.

8. Fuck you, this is Michigan.

9. Who is the hot coordinator

10. Martin said no coordinators.

11. Kittens

12. Mike Debord

13. Urban Meyer/Sean Peyton/Rich Rodriguez.

14. English/Hoke

15. I need a drink

16. You guys are the greatest

17. Troll

18. We need a profiles in heroism [insert name]

19. Michigan Student provides bi-polar anaylsis.

20. We're like ND

21. No we're not


23. Clean house

24. Pat Forde/Drew Sharp = douche

25. I trust Bill Martin.

26. Fuck that, we're fucked.



Lather. Rinse. Repeat.


Finally, isn't this the truth:

Maybe Harbaugh does warrant a look. sigh.



Whoever it is, we'll all be bitching after the first three and out next year.

DCBlue | 12.07.07 - 11:16 am | #

Performance in the bowl game - a valid input?

Performance in the bowl game - a valid input?

Submitted by JTGoBlue on November 29th, 2010 at 5:01 PM

I'm surprised that it seems most agree that the bowl game, which could present a quality opponent comparable to a top-tier Big Ten team, and hence the opportunity for a 'signature win' , is moot.  The bowl game will quite possibly be the first game since the 5-0 start where the team is reasonably healthy, with 15 practices to coach the younger players. Doesn't this last game present a great opportunity to evaluate the state of the program?  Surprised Brandon hasn't mentioned this, although he probably doesn't want to open up a debate over his evaluation policy...thoughts?

Opinions re: faking injuries during games

Opinions re: faking injuries during games

Submitted by Captain Obvious on November 29th, 2010 at 4:12 PM

Ignoring all else (yes, I know it's hard), what does everyone think about how Harbaugh coached his players to fake injuries during the Oregon game to slow down Oregon's offense?  On another thread, I saw a (moderately upvoted) post suggesting that this was just another example of Harbaugh's coaching brilliance and a great tactical move.  I find it hard to believe that this opinion is widely held, but the points suggest otherwise...

Personally, I think it's pathetic and unethical.  I think it demonstrates a win-at-all-costs attitude that has no place in the NCAA.  I would be absolutely furious if our players were taught to do the same.

If you are in favor of this tactic - would you have applauded Dantonio if he had done this against us this year?  Or would you add it to the list of scummy tactics used by an unethical win-at-all-costs coach?

How do you evaluate a coach?

How do you evaluate a coach?

Submitted by Blue in Yarmouth on November 29th, 2010 at 3:11 PM

I want to ask the question how a coach should be evaulated. I have always been behind RR but at this point I have simply resigned myself to living with whatever happens. I want him to stay, and think we would be better off if he does, but what can I do about it?

After coming to this point I have to wonder how a coach should be evaluated. What we have seen over the past three season has been disappointing. As a fan it has been hard to watch the team we all love go through the growing pains they have. It is fair to say, however, that we have seen steady progress from going 3-9 in year one to 7-5 in year 3.

I would agree with all those who feel the progress hasn't been as fast as I would have hoped, but if we are looking at the long term state of the program is three years really enough (under these circumstances) to say that it is best to go another direction?

For people that think it is, are we going to judge the next coach the same way? If we move back to a pro-style offense, are we going to tell that coach that by year three he needs to be challenging for a big ten title or he is gone? Are we going to tell him that steady improvement isn't enough, and we don't care that the future looks bright beyond this year but since we are not in the big ten title race he is gone? Before the players he recruited even get to the point of being seniors, are we going to tell him he has failed in making us the team we want to become?

I have a difficult time imagining a scenario where it is best for UM to fire the head coach at this point in time, three years into his contract. We have seen steady (albeit slow) progress and it is unquestionable to me that this team will continue to get better given the chance.

There are also the many things outside football that contribute. We have quality young men with a coach who puts discpline and the players health above his own job security. They are doing well in school and genuinely seem to care about eachother and the university. I believe this program is in good shape and improving each year since RR came.

So my question is, how do you evaulate a coach, and when is steady improvement not reasonable to bring them back?