Dee Decommitted?

Dee Decommitted?

Submitted by TomVH on December 3rd, 2010 at 12:56 AM

[Ed-M: Well, f.

In case you went to bed last night thinking that Michigan will be playing in a bowl game, a competent CEO-type athletic director is in charge of the program, and a 5-star-ish recruit perfect for our offensive system will be enrolling in January, you seem to have been 2/3rds correct.

Rivals reported last night that HB Demetrius Hart intends to decommit from Michigan in favor of Alabama. Tom VH spoke to someone close to Hart and confirmed...that it may be true.:

Regarding Dee Hart, I talked to someone close to him and it looks like the rumors may have legs. Not sure specifics yet.

The news inspired a 500-response thread and at least one user getting caved. As an attempt to restore sanity, and because I trust Tom, I am bumping Tom's diary on the subject (and on other RB options Michigan is in good shape with) to the front page.

At the moment, this seems to be rumor, but believeable. It becomes fact when Dee Hart says it is; until then we have a source close to Dee who says it's fact. For those of you who remember getting burned by Will Campbell only for a "just joking" thing after, this doesn't feel like that.

If you stick a gun to my head and say "okay Misopogon, you tell me why Hart decommitted right this second or I'll blow your brains all over your precious internet," I would say that Dee wants to get his college football career underway at the beginning of January, and Michigan wants to make a decision on who will be his head coach after that. This opinion is entirely conjecture, conflicts with a previous statement made by Hart, and should be taken as no more than that. Expect something more informative and concrete from Brian or Tim later today. Here's Tom: [/Misopogon]

TomVH: Dee Hart Alternatives

Hopefully everyone's calmed down from the Demetrius Hart news. For those of you that follow me on Twitter, I did talk to someone close to him and it looks like he will be decommitting. He's shut down contact, so I wasn't able to get a hold of him or his family. They don't like to disappoint people, so I'm not sure how much contact they'll have. The Michigan coaches will be making a visit out to try to do damage control with Dee. We'll see what ultimately happens with it, things can change.

Moving on from that, Justice Hayes is committed, Michigan is hoping Thomas Rawls makes grades, and there's two more options out there. Tre Mason (5'10", 190 lbs, 4 Star) and Devondrick Nealy (5'10", 175 lbs, 3 Star). Michigan is in great position with Nealy, and we most likely lead.

Mason is one to watch, and I talked to him tonight. He was interested and intrigued with the news of Demetrius Hart. I asked him about Michigan, and he had this to say.

I like Michigan, but Coach Dews has been talking to me about defense lately, and I do not want to play defense. I like Auburn a lot too, but if Michigan wanted me back as a running back then they'd have a good shot at me. I'm looking at depth charts and everything, so we'll see. 

You have to think that Michigan had been talking defense with Tre because they had Demetrius Hart and Justice Hayes committed. They didn't have room for a third running back of the same kind. If Demetrius does in fact decommit then I would assume Michigan would tell Tre that they want him on offense again. Just something to keep an eye on if everything goes down as it seems like it will. 

OT: 2 day reminder MGoblog bowl pool

OT: 2 day reminder MGoblog bowl pool

Submitted by jhackney on December 3rd, 2010 at 12:39 AM

Posted this a couple of days ago. This is just a reminder to our fractured family that MGoblog has a college bowl pool league on ESPN.

Go to espn.com

Under fantasy, click Bowl Mania

League name is mgoblog

Password is Denarded

Once the bowl season starts, the roster is locked.

Good luck! Who will be MGoblog bowl champion?

Michi-leaks: Documented "Conversation" btwn RR and DB

Michi-leaks: Documented "Conversation" btwn RR and DB

Submitted by willywill9 on December 3rd, 2010 at 12:37 AM

The following is a "documented transcript" of a recorded conversation between Rich Rodriguez and David Brandon:  As an MGoBlogger who believes in the importance of other random mgobloggers having access to the truth, I'm publishing this conversation's transcript: 

RR: Hey David, you said you wanted to see me?

David Brandon:  Yes, yes come on in, have a seat… are you hungry?

RR:  I think I’m alright, Rita’s making her famous Nacho dip tonight for an appetizer, and you know how she gets if she finds out I’ve already eaten…

DB: Yea yea, I know... why get Domino's when you have Nacho Dip at home, i get it.

RR: Yeah, I mean I’m more of a Pizza House kinda guy but your point stands…

<awkward silence>

RR: That was a joke, tough crowd!  Is it me or is it getting hot in here?

DB : Ah, good one Rich! You had me there for a minute!

RR:  Anyway, you wanted to see me?

DB: Yes, I had a question for you, and I need you to answer honestly.

RR: You know me David, I’m a straight shooter.  Say, would you turn the AC on or something, I’m boiling over here.

DB: Well… my question for you is, do you think I look like Chris Fowler?

 

RR: Well, not really, but if you did, I’d say like a more established, successful version.   Nothing against Chris Fowler, he’s nice and all, but if there’s any resemblance, I’d say he looks like you, not the other way around.

DB: Good point! Thanks Rich, I knew you’d give it to me straight.

RR:  Anytime.  Seriously, it’s hot in here… I’m sweating like a sinner in church over here… are these seats heated?

DB: Haha, so you’re feeling like your seat is hot, ‘eh?!  Get it?
<awkward silence>

DB: It’s a joke!  Yes, I’ll turn down the heat on your seat...new amenity I installed.  Listen, I know what I’ve told the media, but really I’m just having fun with them.  Particularly, those clowns over at MGoBlog.  Have you ever been on that site?

RR: Me? Nah, David you know I don’t listen to any of those bloggers... all that stuff is poison, but it can’t hurt you if you don’t swallow it.

DB: Agreed, but if you’re ever on it… my handle is profitgoblue.

RR:  Handle?  Listen, I know you’re going to do what’s best for the program, and I respect your decision, no matter what it is.  Just know, that from day one, I've tried my best to become a Michigan Man, and I want to be here for the long haul, and win championships here at Michigan.

DB:  Well, thank you Rich.  Come over here though, and check this site out, seriously.

RR: Ah, alright.

DB: How about this thread “Could DB have possibly done worse here…”  Let me click on that one…  WHAT? Captain Obvious doesn’t trust me?  He DISLIKES me? Ahhh… let’s skip this one… let’s go to one that’s about you…

RR: I really don’t think we should concern ourselves…

DB: Ah, c’mon, it’ll be fun!  How about this one?  

RR, DB: Boobies!!!

DB: Who is that?!

RR: I think that’s the girl who sings that California Girls song. My daughter loves her!

DB: I love her too but geez, they remake every song nowadays...

RR: Hey David, I’ve got to head out now before I’m in the dog house… are we all set here?

DB: Yes, but before you go, just know one thing… The job is yours, and that hasn’t changed at all in my mind at any point this season.  Just promise me one thing… promise me you’ll help me by putting an end to this chatter.  Quite frankly, it’s tiring.

RR: Next year…?  I’m only focused on our next bowl game… but believe me, you will not regret this.  You're going to be a big part of something special.  Have a good night Dave.

DB: Night Coach.

Could DB have possibly done any worse here?

Could DB have possibly done any worse here?

Submitted by Captain Obvious on December 3rd, 2010 at 12:08 AM

I initially loved the DB hire.  He seemed very smart, past success in the business world,  former player, said all the right things, etc.  Then, when push came to shove, he chased after money instead of maintaining tradition WRT B10 divisions.  The day he tried to start pushing UM OSU before the last game of the year was the last day I ever trusted him.  He very nearly diminished the importance of the most important game on the schedule and tried to make it palatable to the fanbase.  Luckily, we rejected this dose of horseshit.

With his handling of the coaching situation, he has gone from someone I distrust to someone I intensely dislike.  Seriously, could he have done any worse here?  The choices are clear - hire Harbaugh or retain RR.  If he wants H, he should already be coaching here.  The backup plan is easy to construct - contact H and see if he's interested.  If the answer is yes, then get him in here so he can damage control recruiting instead of acting like our performance in the bowl means a goddamn thing for RR's job security (hint: it shouldn't hold much sway).  If H isn't interested, then DB should be frantically conducting a private search for a replacement if he feels RR must go for whatever reason.  The moment the replacement is found, make the switch.

If he wants to retain RR (FWIW, my extreme preference), then he is seriously being a goddamn moron.  He has unwittingly placed a huge amount of importance on a middling bowl game.  Here are the scenarios:

  1. We lose the bowl game and RR is retained - DB looks weak and people are wondering why in the hell we waited for a data point that apparently didn't matter that much.  Fanbase further fractured.
  2. We win and RR is retained - everything looks consistent, but the team just got weaker due to difficulty recruiting.  RR must scramble to fill out the class with a lot of 2nd and 3rd choices.  This makes it even harder to win the following year and leaves hypothetical replacement coach with less talent to work with if it comes to that following the 2011 year.
  3. We win and RR is fired - DB almost can't do this; it would tear the fanbase right in half.  You can't give the implicit message of "coach for your job" then fire after a win.
  4. We lose and RR is fired - looks consistent but gives H less time to put a class together.  I don't give a shit what's going on at his current school, if we want him he will pick up and leave immediately, bowl game or not.  I give 0 regard to H's "tough situation."

The bottom line is that recruiting is the lifeblood of this program and DB apparently does not realize this.  Uncertainty absolutely, positively kills recruiting.  The kind of kids we want have a ton of choices in schools and no particular affinity for UM - why would they risk it?  We are very close with a number of very critical recruits and they have pretty much no reason to pull the trigger on M at the moment.  Meanwhile, Signing Day draws near and other schools' spots are filling up.  I'm not freaking out about the Dee decommit - it sucks bad but I learned awhile ago not to place a ton of value in a committment.  Our offense will be fine but make no mistake - our RB position just received a downgrade.

Are more decommits on the horizon?  Probably.  These are the most visible signs of the failures in DB's strategy here.  However, I think the true impact will be felt in a way we can't directly quantify - lost committments from recruits that have been or would have been interested in M but for the shadow of the grim reaper that hangs over our program.

FWIW: "A Michigan Football VIP and my waiter friend"

FWIW: "A Michigan Football VIP and my waiter friend"

Submitted by yossarians tree on December 2nd, 2010 at 11:02 PM

First, I like Rich Rodriguez and I want him to succeed. I think next year is the tell-all year on whether he will succeed, and I would love for him and his players to have that chance.

But I do have an interesting story to relate on a very VIP in Michigan football history, who happened to have dinner at a local establishment in the last couple days, and happened to be waited on by a very good friend of mine who enjoyed bantering with this man and his companions for the better part of three hours.

This is no bullshit. And I am being very vague for the reason that I don't want to bust my buddy, or the establishment where he works.

My buddy is a kinda Michigan fan, more just a local sports fan, and he was very cognizant and impressed by the fact that he was waiting on said VIP.

The shocka quote, among many my friend heard from the jovial men that evening: "I always said, You don't win with one player and you don't lose with one player, but what they've done with that young man...."

My friend came away with a very strong, favorable impression of this man, who he said was friendly, engaging, and down to earth. As well as his friends. He said upon approaching the table at one point the name "Harbaugh" was being tossed around, but they quieted down when he came up.

Okay, that's it. I debated posting this story here for many reasons, primary of which it is hearsay and I do not want to put my bud or "VIP" under the gun. Ultimately I decided to report in this sophomoric cryptic way because I think many mgoblog readers might read the tea leaves and have some idea of what is going on here.

My conclusion: I would still like RR to stay. But I doubt that he will.

Our fanbase and recruiting

Our fanbase and recruiting

Submitted by rbgoblue on December 2nd, 2010 at 10:36 PM

Well, Rich got ripped a new one a few weeks ago by some who objected to his suggestion that the negativity in our fanbase was hurting us on the recruiting trail.  Well, I certainly wouldn't think it has helped us here... Bye Dee, would have loved to see you share a backfield with Denard.

 

Any objections?  Neg away...

Rodriguez' confidence

Rodriguez' confidence

Submitted by Farnn on December 2nd, 2010 at 9:34 PM
Over the last few weeks it seems to me RR has shown more confidence in this team than at any point in the past 3 years. Before he was always cautious with how he described the team; as if he knew they would be bad though he obviously couldn't say that. But now he really seems to see greatness down the road. He may be just trying to win support and keep his job, but from the way he enforced team discipline (Hagerup) I don't think that's his personality. Has anyone else noticed the change in outlook? Or am I seeing something that isn't really there?

From Banquet, Denard promises victory in bowl game, Dave Brandon on bowl destination

From Banquet, Denard promises victory in bowl game, Dave Brandon on bowl destination

Submitted by InRodWeTrust333 on December 2nd, 2010 at 9:00 PM

Per Angelique twitter account,

Denard to seniors re: Bowl "We're going to let you all out with a big victory. No matter what team, we're going to get a win"

and Per Mark Snyder

AD Dave Brandon on bowl destination: "Frank (Beckmann) thinks we might be going west, I think we might be going in a different direction."

CC: Does the bowl game really matter for RR?

CC: Does the bowl game really matter for RR?

Submitted by sammylittle on December 2nd, 2010 at 8:49 PM

I have seen several people comment that the bowl game is make or break for RR.  I can't see how the bowl game makes much difference.  Our bowl opponent has yet to be determined and could be either very tough, mediocre, or somewhere between.  The main arguments for replacing RR:  bad defense, losses to rivals, 33% winning percentage in conference will not be changed by a bowl victory.  The main arguments for retaining RR:  improvement, youth/inexperience, offensive genius, etc. also will not be changed by the bowl result.  I have to believe that DB has a good idea about what he will do and is just checking with his subordinates and being sure he is not too hasty in his decision.  Also, like an NFL receiver in the end zone, AD's must complete the process or any decision they make will be void.