CC, The Spread is Dead?, I hate Everyone

CC, The Spread is Dead?, I hate Everyone

Submitted by New Carr on December 5th, 2010 at 10:19 AM


This has been discussed ad-nauseaum.  I used to get angry at the Carr "apologists" when we would go 9-3 every year despite having 11-1 talent that tears it up in the NFL these days, (so I won't get into a long synopsis defending RR, the circumstances, and youth on the team) as I realize that ultimately you are judged on wins and losses.  What i want to point out is the importance of continuity in a program and how while the last 3 years have sucked at times, looking at Oregon's coaching staff (with 4 assistant coaches tenured over 20 years) there is something to be said for stability.  I'm sure any good coach that comes to Michigan and is given time for his system to get rooted will be successful given the resources, of course this is contingent upon fair support.  I think we will win big and soon with either RR or Harbaugh, but I really just want to make a statement about RR leaving aside the "hot seat" issue.  RR did not wake up a bad coach, he has won big before.  RR does care about his players and there is a family atmosphere within the program, which is obvious from player quotes and his involvement with them off the field.


Spread is Dead?:

Gary Danielson, How do you have a job?  Your opinion is like a blade of grass in the wind, or a house of cards potentialy folding over with every added layer.  Oregon plays Auburn in the national title game Gary, two spread of which went through your SEC "Superior Excellent Conference" undefeated, beating pro-style Alabama on the road, climbing out of a 24-0 hole.  During that game alone, I heard you change your tune, going from "why this will never work in the nfl" to "Cam Newton is Jesus in cleats, I wish I could touch his greatness from here (in a plutonic way of course)."  Pick a story buddy, and stick to it.  Better to be dead wrong than indecisive (just ask George W. Bush and John Kerry).  You are an SEC lackey and its disgusting, but even beyond that, your spineless commentary makes us all dumber and more confused for having listened to you.


I hate everyone:

Going 1-9 vs. the Vest and 0-3 against the Brahs will do it to you.  Should a football game mean that much to me, sense of self probably shouldn't be so closely tied to games over which I have no control.  That being said,  you know your sporting fan life has hit a new low when you are up at 4AM watching youtube clips of the 95,96,and 97 Mich-OSU games.  I will say one thing about those Mich teams that I don't see today (a carrot for all the RR haters out there), there was a toughness and resiliency to those teams that I haven't seen from Michigan in a long time.  No matter the score, they always seemed to be in the game, focused and expecting to win.  Nowadays, it feels like if we get down more that 7, the game is through.  My anger is getting to the "Unacceptable" levels.

OT: Pick 'em Congratulations

OT: Pick 'em Congratulations

Submitted by Wolverine Incognito on December 5th, 2010 at 9:58 AM

Since I made two of MGoBlog's Pick 'em groups for the regular season, I just wanted to send out congratulations to the winners.

For the group MGoBloggers2 on Yahoo! the winner is:  DenverRob

For the group MGoBloggers on ESPN, the winner is:  entry password is Taco (user Tim Jansen)

Congrats to the both, and I look forward to picking with all of you in the bowls!  GO BLUE!

Brandon coments

Brandon coments

Submitted by mgoblahhh on December 5th, 2010 at 7:26 AM

Dave Brandon finally comented on the bust saying "It was an emotional night and it always is," Brandon said Saturday while taking in the Michigan-Harvard men's basketball game at Crisler Arena. "The emotions were high and the passion was high and that's Coach's way of communicating his passion and respect for the kids and the program."

From The Detroit News:’s-banquet-speech--‘He’s-a-very-passionate-guy’#ixzz17Ety22q5

OT - 4 AM viewing of Minnesota '08

OT - 4 AM viewing of Minnesota '08

Submitted by BlueDragon on December 5th, 2010 at 4:07 AM

I've been working my way backwards through the RR era of Wolverine Historian videos, and I've finally arrived at the great Minnesota '08 game.  Think of the memories:

Sheridan looks like Brett Favre for a day.  Michigan keeps the Little Brown Jug.  Morgan Trent is still playing for Michigan.  Zoltan's fake punt on 4th and 3.  Michigan makes FIVE field goals in a single game!

Yes, it was ugly, and yes, I'd rather forget almost all of 2008, but this game was special.  Even if RR isn't back next year I still had a lot of fun cheering for his teams as a fan and I still will root for M no matter what the coaching situation is next year.

Go Blue!



Submitted by dmcb32 on December 5th, 2010 at 3:15 AM

As we are all aware there seems to be a rift in the recruitment of Dee Hart!  I think the kid is an unreal talent; that said I feel that all this conjecture about him is nuts.  Conjecture is all we have been dealing with since the OSU loss.  He has not Decomm'ed yet, however, lets show the love for OUR coach , which I hope he will be!  (atleast for one more year, his recruits are not even seniors yet.)  love all Go Blue!

Wayne Lyons visited today

Wayne Lyons visited today

Submitted by umhero on December 5th, 2010 at 1:25 AM

I see from headlines on Scout that Wayne Lyons is a visitor this weekend.  While "google-stalking" for info on the visit, I stumbled on a great article about him.  It may have been posted here in the past, but in light of his visit I thought it was worth sharing.


Coaches at 44 schools have offered Wayne Lyons a scholarship

His list includes offers from Alabama, Boston College, Florida, Florida State, LSU, Miami, Michigan, North Carolina, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Stanford, Tennessee, UCLA and Wisconsin.

For example, of all the blue-chip high school players who now post details of their recruitment on Twitter, how many also include tweets such as the one Lyons sent out last week? "High school GPA has jumped to a 5.0 on the head! Gotta keep that no. 1 spot! Holding on to the dream -- Class Valedictorian for DHS c/o 2011."

He took calculus as a 10th-grader, is his class president and helped Dillard coach Manny Martin start a mentoring program this past spring.

When it became clear in ninth grade that Lyons would be an excellent football player, Bush simply assumed he'd go to Florida, the school she had attended and the school Lyons' sister currently attends. Then the recruiting mail started pouring in, and Bush began reading up on all the universities. 

"His sophomore year, he'll get his bachelor's degree" Dillard's Martin said. "His junior year, he'll be working on his masters." 

"I want a school," he said, "where the degree is worth something."

Wants to know:

"How many African-American players have graduated with an engineering degree in the past five years? Year-by-year? Please list their names."

Reading the whole article makes me really want this kid to be a Wolverine.  What an incredible role model he could be.

I can't wait to hear about his visit.  

Early Morning Good Times Roll Thread

Early Morning Good Times Roll Thread

Submitted by jamiemac on December 5th, 2010 at 12:51 AM

I really think with UCONN's win tonight that MICH's RPI will rise high enough that the Tournament is easily in reach


wait? wut?

Still, MICH played 3 BCS teams and a fourth that won 11 games. And despite really the worst case scenario any of us could envision on D, still went bowling.

And, if I can be frank....I think this year's basketball team is better than last years. And, better than the 2008-09 outfit. Just sayin' Hockey? Frozen Four. Book It! After a Big Chill beatdown, natch.

Merry Christmas. Happy Hannakah. Merry New Year. Let The Goodt Times Roll

We're not where we want to be. But, we're one step closer. Unless its soccer, then we're exactly where we want to be.

Changed thread title. In case there are people who have a hope of seeing the sunrise. Hey, I am having one more, but no guarantees. See ya over morning coffee. Optimism better remain, yo

Big Ten Coaches- Richard Craniums

Big Ten Coaches- Richard Craniums

Submitted by orillia on December 4th, 2010 at 10:00 PM

So with Nebraska joining the Big Ten next year - Bo Pelini will join an all star cast of Richard Craniums.  The conference will have some of the biggest  jerks in the college coaching ranks.  Think about this group.....



Every week another "bad boy" will bring his team into Ann Arbor.   The coaches alone will be entertaining - good times.


P.S. Richard Cranium = Dick head

CC: Putting Words in David Brandon's Mouth

CC: Putting Words in David Brandon's Mouth

Submitted by Undefeated dre… on December 4th, 2010 at 9:10 PM

Warning: no data analysis included.

With folks still clamoring about who is, or is not, a Michigan man, we're missing something -- we have a kingmaker, of sorts, of Michigan men. David Brandon wasn't a star under Bo, but he stayed, he played, and then went out and was successful in the world -- what all Michigan grads aspire to do. And so, with a few words like those below, David Brandon could end the debate.

"You know, a lot has been said about being a Michigan man. I think we all know that Michigan men are made, not born. Fielding Yost wasn't a Michigan man when he came here from West Virginia. Bo Schembechler wasn't a Michigan man when he came here from Ohio. But we all know Bo became THE Michigan man. And Bo Schembechler made me a Michigan man, and I've been proud to spend my entire life working in this great state.

Rich Rodriguez came to Michigan because he wanted to test himself on the biggest stage imaginable, in the Big House. Michigan men thrive on challenges, and he took on a big one. It hasn't been easy, but the team has been making progress. I think he is the best man to lead this team in 2011 and into the future.

The decision to honor and extend Rich's contract was mine.  It was my choice to keep him, when we could have easily gone another direction. And so, if any of you don't think Rich Rodriguez is enough of a Michigan man, please come talk to me. I'd be happy to tell you how proud I am to have Rich Rodriguez coaching the team of FIelding Yost, Bo Schembechler, and Lloyd Carr."

and of course, the alternative:

"Rich Rodriguez is a good man and a good football coach. He has done well in trying circumstances, and we should all be proud of the effort his teams have put forth on the field, in the classroom, and in society. I know he will continue to be successful, wherever he goes. But we have decided to make a change.

I had the tremendous opportunity to attend the University of Michigan and play football under Bo Schembechler. Bo made me a Michigan man. I had some success after I left Michigan, and while I enjoyed that work, nothing could be as rewarding as giving back to the school that gave me so much. I'm delighted to be back at Michigan.

There's another fellow who played under a great coach at Michigan and went on to have some success at other places after he left Ann Arbor. And he, like me, realized that he wanted to come back and work for the greatest university in America. Ladies and gentleman, please welcome our next football coach, Jim Harbaugh*."

Whichever way he comes down, I hope he comes down forcefully (and soon!). Of course, how could I doubt the hand o' the pimp?

* Or Mike Hart, if you want to go there. Upside? Potential to break JoePa's record.

Michigan Recruiting History Question

Michigan Recruiting History Question

Submitted by Ziff72 on December 4th, 2010 at 9:04 PM

Over the last couple of years I have found myself in arguments that I'm sure many of you have with friends, neighbors, family and co workers.    A complaint or argument I have heard from many of the old guard was 

1.  We need more size on defense, you need to stop the run like Bo and Mo and Lloyd for the Big Ten.

2. We need better recruits, Michigan should have their pick of All Americans like we used to.  We used to have All-Americans playing 3rd string.(Most were smart enough to realize times are different with scholly limits and it's just a different time). 

I'm not claiming to know the answer here just my observation and I'd like to hear from the Michigan family on their perceptions or actual knowlege as I think both are kinda myths.

1.  As I go thru my Michigan history in my head, I was too young for the early 70's but I recall in Bo's book about the walk on D. Werner playing nose guard at 190lbs and using his quickness to disrupt the offense.   When he talked about this Orange Bowl team they talked about how big Oklahoma was and all the 1st rd draft picks and how they had to fight to overcome this.  When they played Auburn in the Sugar Bowl they tell the story about how Bo Jackson laughed at how small we were until he was beat to a pulp from a thousand bee stings.  The most iconic players from the 80's were probably Messner and Hammerstein who were tiny for dlineman.  I can't really recall a giant beef eater on defense until we got G. Watson.   I'm sure we had some decent size guys on the line over time, but they never stood out that much to me.  So have we really always been an undersized defense based on speed and toughness?

2.  When people talk about Bo and maybe downgrade him a little bit or they are nostalgic for the old days of 10-1.  I hear how Michigan just out talented and out executed other teams and Bo was not that much a "schemes" guy.   I started thinking in my head of all the #1 picks and All Americans Michigan had and you know I it felt like we were a little low in that department compared to other high profile teams.  I looked at our draft history and and we didn't have many players with outstanding pro careers.  See if you think the same looking at our list.  Many of Bo's high profile pro guys like Dierdorf and Mckenzie weren't his recruits.  In his books he often talked about how he hated the "me" 1st studs like George(right) and Spielman (wrong).  So I know recruiting sites weren't around, but was Bo the king of the "3 stars" and just coached the fuck out of them with the mantra The Team The Team The Team really being true?   Or is this just my perception and it was just a different time?  Was there any buzz that Bo had to land this Leach kid?   How did Bo snake oil AC out of Florida?

I look forward to your thoughts.